Stargate Stargate ideas, Recommendations and discussion thread

[DarthOne]

It's size is never consistently portrayed.

Maybe not, but that’s it’s official canon size.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Whatever looked better on the screen at the time, I guess. Great for cinematic effect, awful for everything else.

Atlantis' model was supposed to be like two hundred percent more complex than what we saw in the show -- it actually looked like a city in concept art, but the final, budget-friendly version looked more like a space station in (comparing) simplicity.

Ideas I'd like to see?

A Sith Lord on the levels of Vitiate, Sidious, Anakin-Vader, Revan, and Bane -- a fully-empowered Sith Lord -- is Isekai'd during SG-1's run.

I can imagine Jaffas' faces as they see their "god"/a System Lord get full-body Force-choked/crushed on their throne, or seeing dozens of their comrades get fried by magic lightning shot from a robed figure's fingertips.

I can also imagine said Sith Lord implementing the Stormtrooper effect/doctrine -- faceless, fully-armoured, et cetera; hell, the more advanced cybernetic helmets of Ra's jaffa (seen in the Stargate movie) than the lesser-tech "helmets" (and budget-friendly) seen in SG-1 would work well.

And what'd be worse? The native population would love their new "god" because that's what they do. Hell, Palpatine was fucking loved by most Imperial citizenry, even when his mask came off as his tenure as "Emperor"!

Second idea would be that the Ori, during their Invasion, accidentally kick something off that even they couldn't prepare for/anticipate, such as inadvertently reviving an Arm Commander and a Core Commander on some desolate rock on the galaxy's edge.

Replicators? Asurans? Yeah, no contest.

I always thought a Gould taking over a sith lord would be entertaining. Aside from that Anubis would be a existential threat to pretty much every Sith that has existed.

 

[Jormungandr]

I always thought a Gould taking over a sith lord would be entertaining. Aside from that Anubis would be a existential threat to pretty much every Sith that has existed.

I get the feeling it wouldn't end well... for the Goa'uld.

Sith Lords are all about willpower and determination to get what they want; they're that on a supernatural level. Throw in the Dark Side being as corrosive as fuck to living tissue (there's a reason why Sith look so fucked up), then that symbiote is going to have an even worse time than when Ra was inside Famrir.

 

[Spartan303]

It's size is never consistently portrayed.

On screen, sure. The VFX company screwed up multiple times. But the show runners came out with the real size of the 304. Its main body is literally the size of a Sovereign class Starship from Trek.

 

[The Immortal Watch Dog]

I'm planning on making my prometheus expy between the size of an old soviet typhoon class and the size of your average mega cruise ship operated by carnival.

Seems like a decent average given the visual wtfery

edit- Also because I'm a fan of the Yamato/Robotech designs. Can't fault the classics!

 

[Bassoe]

I always thought a Gould taking over a sith lord would be entertaining.

I get the feeling it wouldn't end well... for the Goa'uld.

Sith Lords are all about willpower and determination to get what they want; they're that on a supernatural level. Throw in the Dark Side being as corrosive as fuck to living tissue (there's a reason why Sith look so fucked up), then that symbiote is going to have an even worse time than when Ra was inside Famrir.

Does it really count as a fight for control when they always end up agreeing with each other about any given course of action?

 

[Jormungandr]

Does it really count as a fight for control when they always end up agreeing with each other about any given course of action?

Sith are typically megalomaniacs high on Dark Side Juice(tm); Goa'uld are self-centered, narcissistic megalomaniacs.

They wouldn't mesh.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

I get the feeling it wouldn't end well... for the Goa'uld.

Sith Lords are all about willpower and determination to get what they want; they're that on a supernatural level. Throw in the Dark Side being as corrosive as fuck to living tissue (there's a reason why Sith look so fucked up), then that symbiote is going to have an even worse time than when Ra was inside Famrir.

Anubis would be the one who could really wreak some havoc and take possession of anyone he wanted. Well until their bodies fell apart anyways.

 

[Jormungandr]

Anubis would be the one who could really wreak some havoc and take possession of anyone he wanted. Well until their bodies fell apart anyways.

I guess that'd become a metaphysical issue, then -- would the Dark Side be compatible with Ascended (or in Anubis' case, half-Ascended) beings/states? Or would it be antithetical, like oil and water or acids and alkaline? Would they mesh well instead? Would it give Anubis actual existential dread as this out of context problem could very well harm him? It's implied that the Dark Side is sentient in some way in the old EU... would Anubis feel like a worm being dangled in front of a hungry, looming shape in the dark?

Fascinating trains of thought.

Still, I'd pity the poor bastards in the material world, though.

 

[Spartan303]

I'm planning on making my prometheus expy between the size of an old soviet typhoon class and the size of your average mega cruise ship operated by carnival.

Seems like a decent average given the visual wtfery

edit- Also because I'm a fan of the Yamato/Robotech designs. Can't fault the classics!

Prometheus is actually 520 long according to Stargate now. Which is run by the show runners.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

I guess that'd become a metaphysical issue, then -- would the Dark Side be compatible with Ascended (or in Anubis' case, half-Ascended) beings/states? Or would it be antithetical, like oil and water or acids and alkaline? Would they mesh well instead? Would it give Anubis actual existential dread as this out of context problem could very well harm him? It's implied that the Dark Side is sentient in some way in the old EU... would Anubis feel like a worm being dangled in front of a hungry, looming shape in the dark?

Fascinating trains of thought.

Still, I'd pity the poor bastards in the material world, though.

He can fully ascend since there are no ancients around to stop him. Although it's unclear on exactly how powerful an ascended being is. The only real feat was the ascended chick in Atlantis who was destroying some wraith fleets.

EDIT:

Also looked it up and Ha'taks are significantly larger than the BC-304 plus they have that sweet ancient Egyptian aesthetic.

 

[Jormungandr]

He can fully ascend since there are no ancients around to stop him. Although it's unclear on exactly how powerful an ascended being is. The only real feat was the ascended chick in Atlantis who was destroying some wraith fleets.

EDIT:

Also looked it up and Ha'taks are significantly larger than the BC-304 plus they have that sweet ancient Egyptian aesthetic.

What do you mean?

Anubis couldn't fully Ascend because the Others, including the Ancients, would stop him, so he was stuck in his parasite/half-here/there state that we see in the show.

In this state, if he tried to possess a Sith like he did a normal host body (or tried to reconstitute himself within a force-field as we saw with him being under that robe/"inky face"), that's when it becomes a metaphysical issue (as I mentioned above with the Dark Side). He still wouldn't be able to fully Ascend to hypothetically escape because, in an outlined scenario where possessing a Dark Side juiced entity is a bad idea, the Others would still be there to stop him.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

What do you mean?

Anubis couldn't fully Ascend because the Others, including the Ancients, would stop him, so he was stuck in his parasite/half-here/there state that we see in the show.

In this state, if he tried to possess a Sith like he did a normal host body (or tried to reconstitute himself within a force-field as we saw with him being under that robe/"inky face"), that's when it becomes a metaphysical issue (as I mentioned above with the Dark Side). He still wouldn't be able to fully Ascend to hypothetically escape because, in an outlined scenario where possessing a Dark Side juiced entity is a bad idea, the Others would still be there to stop him.

If hes in the star wars galaxy he could fully ascend. Given that the Ori had no idea about the ancients until Daniel fucked up.

 

[Jormungandr]

If hes in the star wars galaxy he could fully ascend. Given that the Ori had no idea about the ancients until Daniel fucked up.

...But both the Sith and Anubis would be in the Stargate Galaxy/Milky Way? blinks Did I miss something...? I mean, the premise was a still-juiced Sith in the Stargate Galaxy/Milky Way.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

...But both the Sith and Anubis would be in the Stargate Galaxy/Milky Way? blinks Did I miss something...? I mean, the premise was a still-juiced Sith in the Stargate Galaxy/Milky Way.

I long forgot the original premise

 

[Jormungandr]

I long forgot the original premise

If the Ascended were in the Star Wars Galaxy, they'd likely either be small fish in a big pond or just another fish in an ocean.

EU had some... really, really fucking nasty metaphysical stuff out there, the whole "Dark Side may be sentient" thing aside.

I mean, Hell was a thing. Hell.

 

[Yinko]

A Sith Lord on the levels of Vitiate, Sidious, Anakin-Vader, Revan, and Bane -- a fully-empowered Sith Lord -- is Isekai'd during SG-1's run.

Any of those, with the possible exception of Vader, would be able to convert the Jaffa into a loyal martial core and corps very easily. There is a relationship between Force use and charisma which is more blatant with the dark side.

Sith are typically megalomaniacs high on Dark Side Juice(tm); Goa'uld are self-centered, narcissistic megalomaniacs.

They wouldn't mesh.

Sometimes people who are too similar just clash. It's a sad state of affairs. 🙁😞

 

[Carrot of Truth]

Sometimes people who are too similar just clash. It's a sad state of affairs. 🙁😞

Goa'uld in a Tokra like relationship with Sith host's might be entertaining.

 

[DarthOne]

Goa'uld in a Tokra like relationship with Sith host's might be entertaining.

That it might but it’s unlikely to octgiven the egos and megalomania of your average Sith and Goa’uld.

 

[Carrot of Truth]

That it might but it’s unlikely to octgiven the egos and megalomania of your average Sith and Goa’uld.

Could be a instance where they come to an agreement but also both plan to backstab each other at a later date