Movies Starship Troopers: The bugs did nothing wrong

Zachowon

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That is not my argument nor has it ever been, the director doesn't even really know what fascism is because 99.9% of people don't understand it's an italian political concept instead of an overarching one.

The feds lie all the time in the movie lmao.
Explain.
Show me where they lie?

And the entirety of the argument that the Feds are the bad guy's ultimately goes back to the director. Who wanted to make them look like Fascists
 

ThatZenoGuy

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Explain.
Show me where they lie?

And the entirety of the argument that the Feds are the bad guy's ultimately goes back to the director. Who wanted to make them look like Fascists
You never answered my question I made to you a while back.

The Federation is actively (and actually succeeds in) making psychic SS troopers with the intention of swaying human thought to make a society more akin to that of the bug's.
How does this make them the good guys?
 

Zachowon

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You never answered my question I made to you a while back.

The Federation is actively (and actually succeeds in) making psychic SS troopers with the intention of swaying human thought to make a society more akin to that of the bug's.
How does this make them the good guys?
Except we have no evidence in the first movie they sway the human thought of the entire Federation to think the bugs are bad.
And the fact that Buenos Aires got destroyed and the Mormons went into the Quarntine zone without permission gives it evidence the Arachnids are not good guys
 

ThatZenoGuy

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Except we have no evidence in the first movie they sway the human thought of the entire Federation to think the bugs are bad.
And the fact that Buenos Aires got destroyed and the Mormons went into the Quarntine zone without permission gives it evidence the Arachnids are not good guys
They literally call mindless cockroaches 'the ideal members of society' lmao.
 

ThatZenoGuy

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One person. One of Rico's teachers and even that had shades of humbling her student's view of humanity inherent superiority. Hardly the typical mentality of a "Master Race".
A person who evidently is an avid supporter of the federation, and has been on one of their previous unmentioned wars. The federation ideally wants all of it's populace to be unquestioning and willing to die in untold numbers at their beck and call.
Because they are? That's what commies are.
Because they only live to serve.
She I'd stating they could be considered better then humans
If you're the leader of a people, and your intentions is making bugmen, you're not the good guys in basically any fiction. :V
 

Crom's Black Blade

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A person who evidently is an avid supporter of the federation, and has been on one of their previous unmentioned wars. The federation ideally wants all of it's populace to be unquestioning and willing to die in untold numbers at their beck and call.
Does she actually say anything pro-Federation let alone be an "avid supporter" as you claim? And as counterpoint we have Rasczak who's entire thing is individuality.
 

ThatZenoGuy

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Does she actually say anything pro-Federation let alone be an "avid supporter" as you claim? And as counterpoint we have Rasczak who's entire thing is individuality.
She was in one of their wars or at least was maimed in some horrific science experiment, and thus is a citizen. Her mindset mirrors that of the Federation as 99% of Civilians do.
Rasczak is the exception, not the norm, as indicated by basically every other character in the film.
"The Mobile infantry is what made me the man I am today!" *Smiling without most of his limbs*
 

Crom's Black Blade

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She was in one of their wars or at least was maimed in some horrific science experiment, and thus is a citizen. Her mindset mirrors that of the Federation as 99% of Civilians do.
Rasczak is the exception, not the norm, as indicated by basically every other character in the film.
"The Mobile infantry is what made me the man I am today!" *Smiling without most of his limbs*
Except we see no one share her view. Carmen pointedly held the opposite view, citing humanity's accomplishments, Rasczak champions the individual's choice, Rico certainly doesn't seem to agree with the teacher's worldview.

The recruitment officer being proud of his service despite his wounds is hardly proof he favors a collective. All it proves that he believes there is something greater than his own personal wellbeing Echoing how service isn't a "perk" but self-sacrifice.

A sentiment I think fits more in line with the Founders rather than collectivism which, at its core, is a selfish, self-centered ideology
 

Jormungandr

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Isn't there a prequel comic explaining how humans met the bugs which has them literally invade Pluto?

This "SST movie bugs have no FTL" idea needs to die in a fire.
Are you thinking of Roughnecks? The series takes inspiration from both the movies and the book, and it was one of the earliest CGI series out there (cost like a few million per episode in the 90's, apparently).

Sad thing is that these days you could do the same on the Unreal Engine for a fraction of that, if not near-enough free.
 

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