If you mean the rumors about buying Redbacks, lol, those are fucking heavy, 42 tons, and the idea would be to complement the amphibious Borsuk with its limited armor.
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Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
I mean not the Redback but the A21, as the MON announced what it wanted to buy new IFV because they said without distinguishing whether it was a light or heavy IFV. And yet the Koreans also showed them this machine.
Hence, the sudden panic that they want to unseat Badger as befits the MON.
On the other hand, why overpay when it's really enough to complete the design of the heavy Borsuk?
Carrot of Truth
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I saw some reports suggesting that Poland was going to buy the South Korean K-21's, I think that IFV is also amphibious.
EDIT: Appears that it is amphibious.
EDIT: Appears that it is amphibious.
Where did you get that information? Could be that after sufficient rumor mill treatment Redbacks turned into K21's because technically they are heavily modified K21's.
Or perhaps considering the size of expected order, a different heavy version could be made, custom for Poland and some Polish components, as Redback originally was an offer for Australia.
What heavy Borsuk? Back on the planet Earth, PGZ is being rushed to finish up and iron out bugs in the design of basic Borsuk, and their speed in that is not impressive at all.
And once that is done, considering the army expansion, their manufacturing capacity will be full for quite a few years to come. If we want to get a heavy IFV soon rather than in 15 years, going Korean is not a bad idea at all. Especially if Koreans offer up some co-manufacturing deals with that, it is a good vehicle with a lot of export and growth potential, possibly competitive with Puma while not as expensive and burdened with German politics, so getting a foot in the door there is something worth pursuing on its own.
Carrot of Truth
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Also the Koreans seem to actually deliver equipment a hell of a lot faster than any of the competition currently.
Batrix2070
RON/PLC was a wonderful country.
This was on Polish Twitter before the MON said what it was buying, and those drew information from Korean media.And the MON, said buying new Infantry Fighting Vehicles, did not say which ones it meant. There was immediate hysteria that the Borsuk was going to be destroyed and so on. That Błaszczak gives buying to Koreans and our industry gives nothing.
Proposed by PGZ/HSW as a Borsuk development program, the time assumed to make the necessary improvements and rework was up to two-three years from the start of the project but the Ministry of Defense ignored it.
US Donated Desert Tan M1151 Armored Humvees Getting a Ukrainian Makeover to Something More Appropriate.
Not as sexy as the Abram paintjobs but still quite the improvement over the Desert patterns.
Not as sexy as the Abram paintjobs but still quite the improvement over the Desert patterns.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
We call it napkinwaffe, a cool idea somebody had, but even the basic engineering calculation show it to be unfeasible. During both world wars the governments of all mayor warring nations were bombarded with such wild goose proposals, often by men who ought to know better.
Tbf, when the governments are shown to be willing to throw money at anyone with a half-baked idea and a functioning model, what else are they supposed to do? NOT take the money?
steam tank,even superheavy,could be made.But super heavy underground tank? it must be joke either made by polish author,or somebody else.
Althought...Hitler really wonted build Rat,so maybe not joke?
Carrot of Truth
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Not the actual tank but here is a model of the new K2PL. Seems to have a longer hull and an extra road wheel compared to the K2 Black Panther.
Carrot of Truth
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That is unclear, It could just be that it was too hard to put on a scale model. On the K2 Black Panther its covered by the turret though
Aaron Fox
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A compromise due to armor design in an age of APFSDS. Extreme angles are the antithesis of all APFSDS rounds. The more extreme the angle, the better. That's why there are what are considered 'bullet traps' in modern tanks.
Duke Nukem
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And here I was just joking about putting those California carpool lane stickers on tanks. . .
Agent23
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Azn tank be like.That is unclear, It could just be that it was too hard to put on a scale model. On the K2 Black Panther its covered by the turret though
Flatter, wider and with a bigger ass.