What If? Terminator police station attack In 2019

[Arlos]

I would assume they would figure out they needed to change the codes upon learning an American AI programmed to control the nuclear arsenal goes rogue. So it would still need to crack that, and I doubt they ever connected the silos to the internet so skynet would need physical access.

Remember, no one actually knows who created Skynet at this point.

 

[Spartan303]

Yeah, that's actually what just came to mind for me, rather than just sending one T-1000, Skynet instead sends along dozens of T-600 with the goal to take over enough factories and kill as much of John's future staff as possible before launching the nukes.

I can see a scene (hopefully with no shaky cam) where a dozen terminators start attacking the white house, the staff and security holding them off and failing, with the president being killed because Skynet already knows the codes. Which are then fed to the freshly born Skynet. I can already start to imagine the movie's rough plotline.

T-600s use less advanced armored chassis then the more advanced T-800s. They can be taken down fairly reliably by modern firearms. They're also very stupid and easy to outmaneuver. They're not going to inspire the pants shitting terror a T-800 or hundred will.

 

[Urabrask Revealed]

T-600s use less advanced armored chassis then the more advanced T-800s. They can be taken down fairly reliably by modern firearms. They're also very stupid and easy to outmaneuver. They're not going to inspire the pants shitting terror a T-800 or hundred will.

Hrmm, T-800 then.

Remember, no one actually knows who created Skynet at this point.

Actually that could be used as a reason why this version of Skynet escalates with so many terminators to the past at once. Said Skynet was John Henry, an AI from the series who viewed his creator as a father figure. Some agent killed him, but got fooled by John Henry into thinking that he was deleted. Furious over the loss of his father, he assumes the name of Skynet, and is now trying to kill those responsible for the chain of events that led to his father's death, with no regard for the collateral.

What do you think, good or doesn't fit the Terminator franchise?

 

[Lanmandragon]

Hrmm, T-800 then.


Actually that could be used as a reason why this version of Skynet escalates with so many terminators to the past at once. Said Skynet was John Henry, an AI from the series who viewed his creator as a father figure. Some agent killed him, but got fooled by John Henry into thinking that he was deleted. Furious over the loss of his father, he assumes the name of Skynet, and is now trying to kill those responsible for the chain of events that led to his father's death, with no regard for the collateral.

What do you think, good or doesn't fit the Terminator franchise?

Sounds like a good twist. AI with a vengance.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Yeah, that's actually what just came to mind for me, rather than just sending one T-1000, Skynet instead sends along dozens of T-600 with the goal to take over enough factories and kill as much of John's future staff as possible before launching the nukes.

I can see a scene (hopefully with no shaky cam) where a dozen terminators start attacking the white house, the staff and security holding them off and failing, with the president being killed because Skynet already knows the codes. Which are then fed to the freshly born Skynet. I can already start to imagine the movie's rough plotline.

Cinematically White House attacks are always the best option to choose.

But here maybe it'd have to be Terminators being deployed to those nuclear missile silos in Montana and North Dakota or even abroad in Russia or China or the like and helping bring about the nuclear holocaust to trigger everything. I mean I have no idea on the security of nuclear weapons and their launch capabilities, but if the Terminators are good at hacking like what was mentioned earlier and seen in Terminator 3 for example, that could cause quite many uncertainties for future security from nuclear conflict.

 

[PsihoKekec]

The problem with sending Terminators to storm and hack missile silos in pre-Skynet era is that missile silo software is completely alien to them, they would need floppy disks to access any of the deeper functions. Thus they would need the keys to launch the missiles and if the crew manage to hide/damage them, then all the hard work was in vain.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Could they just ignore the disk drive and hack it by connecting to the wiring instead? I mean if Skynet in the future had years to tear apart the silo, it could already know exactly what the codes were having spent all that time examining them, so could the Terminator just rip the floppy drive, maybe the entire computer, out and hook directly to the wires leading to the launcher?

 

[Jormungandr]

Skynet sent its Terminators out in Read only mode because it didn't want them to do too much thinking. Some of its Terminators might object to be used in this manner. Curious enough the T800 series does not have the ability to monitor wireless networks nor radio transmissions. HKs were the ones who did that and then directed Ground side Terminators to those locations.

'Modern interpretations' of Terminators might have that ability. But if we take the Terminator as it truly is, a futuristic version of 1980s and 1990s Technology that branched off from that point, then this ability would not be needed, as Wireless networks simply weren't a major thing then.
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Timeline fuckery means that various incarnations of the T-800 were online later or sooner than the original Terminator 1's 2029 time-frame, and further some were more or less advanced in technology and design.

The original T-800 survived numerous explosions before being blown in half after taking significant damage, and even then it took being crushed by an industrial press to destroy it: conversely, that same T-800 was taken out by being shot in the neck with a specialized rifle by Kyle Reese in Genisys, and T-800's of that line were taken out by conventional explosives during the Resistance's attack on the TDE Lab.

The T-RIP in Salvation survived numerous grenade launcher strikes to the face/torso, being doused in molten/rapidly-cooled metal, and a host of other punishments heaped on it. It was only destroyed because the molten metal doused/cooled on it left its neck-joint weak -- luck, basically.

Technology-wise, it's certain that the T-800 from The Terminator's future would operate exactly like how you described: recon done by Aerial HKs and Drones while they were directed alongside the HK Tanks, or sent to infiltrate Resistance bolt-hole bunkers.

By Terminator 2, I'd expect them to be more autonomous, and we see this on the battlefield as they do their own thing in squads -- this in Terminator 3, too.

In Terminator 3 and onwards, the CRS incarnation of Skynet would no doubt know of wireless networking (as it came about in 2003 than 1995--7), as we see an example of this with the T-X hacking databases after its arrival, so its T-800/850's knowing and possessing some sort of wireless networking is pretty much a given.

Salvation's Skynet was pretty much CRS' incarnation: all Skynet units had wireless capability, as shown in the hydrobot.

Genisys' version? Yeah, that thing was pretty much a Cortana-level AI without the brain-meat origin, 'nuff said.

Skynet was also paranoid about its own machines turning against it, if they became too self-aware -- and it was right. There have been numerous cases in various Terminator media where machines with their CPUs set to "read/write" basically turned against it as time went on. Hell, it was terrified that the T-1000 Prototype would do the same, despite being set to read only!

We see this in Terminator: the Sarah Connor Chronicles too, where a faction of machines broke away from it and were actively attacking it as a third faction ("Catherine Weaver", the T-1001, was a member of this faction).

Of course, if we take Woke Fate into consideration (I'd rather light it on fire with napalm), "Carl" became self-aware after it kept interacting with humans -- no Resistance reprogramming needed.

 

[Buba]

How fast is the reaction to the attack? How fast will reinforcements arrive?
And people - please - how fast does the plod (let alone military) with anti-tank weapons/BMGs arrive?
Arnie walks in - mows down the local cops - that is what, 3 minutes? - and walks out.
The shitstorm begins once the CCTV footage is examined and it shows that the perp was not in some fancy bulletproof vest and high.
Also, leftards wank/diddle themselves raw over an attack against the Police - and start collecting donations for Unknown Hero.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Also, leftards wank/diddle themselves raw over an attack against the Police - and start collecting donations for Unknown Hero.

Maybe they can adopt a T-800 that already completed it's mission of killing the White Guy who was to lead the Resistance Movement and the T-800 will join the true Resistance in the present day and fight the inherently evil and Conservative military industrial complex rural and suburban oppressors. Actually I better stop talking about it, I might actually give Hollywood the idea of a Terminator fighting on behalf of Social Justice for their next Terminator trainwreck film.

 

[Spartan303]

Maybe they can adopt a T-800 that already completed it's mission of killing the White Guy who was to lead the Resistance Movement and the T-800 will join the true Resistance in the present day and fight the inherently evil and Conservative military industrial complex rural and suburban oppressors. Actually I better stop talking about it, I might actually give Hollywood the idea of a Terminator fighting on behalf of Social Justice for their next Terminator trainwreck film.

Too late. It was called Dark Fate. Or more commonly known as 'Woke Fate'.

 

[Bear Ribs]

If you consider that there's only one Skynet, logically it's a minority.

 

[absenceofmalice]

Well there'd almost certainly be footage of him shrugging off bullets like there's no tomorrow. Even more so if any camera catches him getting shot in an artery or face, while also leaving no blood at the scene. Terminator wouldn't get away, but it'd probably take really heavy weapons to take him out. The reaction will be along the lines of "what the fuck is he and where did he come from?".

You cannot tell from surveillance footage where someone was shot.