Star Wars The Ahsoka Show
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I'd like to know that too.
And I am pretty sure I am going to stop debating, since it seems I lost sight of what I actually wanted to do.
DarthOne
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It’s about Filoni’s pet character and it involves the Star Wars rebels crew. That alone should answer your question.
It's moving at it's own pace, while using the first two eps for world building for non-Rebels/Clone Wars viewers.
It is taking interesting concepts in terms of adapting/reimagining how/where Thrawn was since Lothal compared to his Legends 'exile' from he Imperial court/undercover mapping mission for Palps to build the Empire of the Hand.
It's expanded the reach of the Dathomirian Witches by confirming Morgan Elsbeth is a surviving Nightsister and that the places Ahsoka gets the map from was built by Dathomirians/Nightsisters. Looks like they controlled more than just Dathomir at some point, and may have been involved with the Zeffo beyond just the tomb from Jedi: Fallen Order.
Like, lots and lots of Zeffo symbology/designs being used, meld with the more indigenous looking art that was like what was part of the temple on Lothal before it was...disappeared.
Lothal looks awesome in live action, Home One looks great, the space fights have been very clean and well paced, and Hu Yang is fucking hilariously awesome in most scene's he's a part of.
Sabine and Ahsoka very much seem like slightly more matured versions of their old selves from Rebels, but Ahsoka seems more cynical/stand-offish and Sabine seems more...like she took all the wrong lessons from Kanan and Erza about acting impulsively and is even more stubborn than normal when introduced.
However the space fights...lets just say I think some of the crew who worked on The Expanse are involved beyond just Wes Catham (supposed to be an aid to Thrawn; Amos next to The Grand Admiral is going to be a neat treat). The zero-g movement and space fights seem like they took lessons from both WW2 combat footage and some of the space battles in The Expanse to get the choreography down.
For someone who hadn't seen Rebels or Clone Wars, it's fine and nothing seems off, but for hardcore fans...depends on what you expected going in.
I'm not disappointed by what I've seen, I think it's got a lot of good potential, and is very sharp looking like Star Wars hasn't been since probably the Prequels. However, I felt the same way in the first few episodes of Book of Boba Fett, and that was a letdown of a show no matter how much I wish it wasn't. i'm more optimistic about this, simply because I can tell much, much more care is being put into this rather than the 'Mando 2.5' BoBF was.
Temura Morrison is slated to appear in Ahsoka, so we are likely going to see either Rex in person (or in flashback) or Boba will be involved at some point (Mando might point her to Boba and/or Bo-Katan if she and Sabine treat to contact him about some non-Republic muscle that can be semi-trusted).
Actually, that's what I really want to see is if we get any other bits of the Mando verse crossing into materially, outside of being the set up for how Elsbeth ended up a prisoner on a NR ship at the beginning.
Jaenera Targaryen
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Even if Ahsoka is good, it doesn't really change anything at all either. It'll be like another example of how Disney does well with side material, but ultimately amounts to spraying air freshener around and over a pile of garbage.
Newest Ahsoka is out...Sabine continues to disappoint in her rash actions, now that some possibility to find Ezra is around, Baylan is actually allowed to 'beat' Ahsoka fairly without it seeming like either party was nerfed, and the treat at the end...World Between World allows many conversations to happen that otherwise could not.
Ahsoka seems like she still has one particular part of her past that she has a need to confront after her fight with Baylan and what he said to her/how she's reacted to mentions of her past.
Also, no Zeb in Hera's escort flight was a real bad oversight, unless the goal is now Ahsoka has to gather friends/force to try to figure out how to go after the Eye of Sion and those aboard (including a very foolish Sabine). With the inclusion of an old clone helmet in the intro flashes, guessing Rex may be coming into play soon as well. Supposedly someone has been cast for Callus, but hasn't shown up yet.
Though the lack of guarding Hu Yang during repairs on a planet that they had to have known was likely containing enemy forces was a real stupid oversight on both Ahsoka and Sabine's part.
I like the potential I'm seeing, and the show has promise, but I'm getting more worrying BoBF vibes, and doing that to Ahsoka would be a deathknell to a lot of Disney Star Wars potential in the future.
Ahsoka seems like she still has one particular part of her past that she has a need to confront after her fight with Baylan and what he said to her/how she's reacted to mentions of her past.
Also, no Zeb in Hera's escort flight was a real bad oversight, unless the goal is now Ahsoka has to gather friends/force to try to figure out how to go after the Eye of Sion and those aboard (including a very foolish Sabine). With the inclusion of an old clone helmet in the intro flashes, guessing Rex may be coming into play soon as well. Supposedly someone has been cast for Callus, but hasn't shown up yet.
Though the lack of guarding Hu Yang during repairs on a planet that they had to have known was likely containing enemy forces was a real stupid oversight on both Ahsoka and Sabine's part.
I like the potential I'm seeing, and the show has promise, but I'm getting more worrying BoBF vibes, and doing that to Ahsoka would be a deathknell to a lot of Disney Star Wars potential in the future.
I think Ahsoka will communicate with the Purgell to reach that new galaxy. Her and the gang will travel there that way. About Sabine from the conversation with Baylen she has lost everything. She is the last of her family line. And is riddled with survivors guilt. That would do a number even to the strongest of us.
The Purgil do seem like the obvious route now; my guess is Ahsoka is in that ocean beneath the cliffs while her mind is having her convo with Anakin while she's unconscious.
Sabine...I mean I get it, she fucked Mandalore pretty hard with the anti-beskar weapon, and it sounds like whatever happened around the Night of a Thousand Tears wiped out the rest of clan Wren, while Ahsoka and Sabine's tension seems like it may be related to the event, based on a couple lines Baylan said.
Makes me wonder how Sabine and Ahsoka fit into the whole issues with Bo-Katan and Gideon, given it was Bo who attempted to get Gideon to stop by surrendering the Darksaber to him.
Two additional thoughts on the latest episode:
1) Marrok may not be 'dead', in that he may be a semi-corporeal Force entity ala Cronal/Blackhole (who made Palp's look sane and only Palp's military power actually could contain via making Cronal Palp's subordinate) and his physical form being destroyed/incapacitated while his cloudy bits rush out. Marrok may even be a reskinned Cronal, though seems too rookie-ish for me to expect to be true Cronal.
2) Sabine doesn't know about the surviving Mando's on the surface of Mandalore. Maybe one of clan Wren is among them.
1) Marrok may not be 'dead', in that he may be a semi-corporeal Force entity ala Cronal/Blackhole (who made Palp's look sane and only Palp's military power actually could contain via making Cronal Palp's subordinate) and his physical form being destroyed/incapacitated while his cloudy bits rush out. Marrok may even be a reskinned Cronal, though seems too rookie-ish for me to expect to be true Cronal.
2) Sabine doesn't know about the surviving Mando's on the surface of Mandalore. Maybe one of clan Wren is among them.
KilroywasNOTHere
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From what I've seen it's good. Honestly I'm at the point where I just ignore all of the shills AND the hate watcher. Like what you like hate what you hate just don't be a jerk about it and if you truly don't like something, stay away from it.
Skallagrim
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What @Bacle said.
I feel that the first four episodes could have been two episodes (of 40 minutes each, excl. credits), but this fifth episode is a whole other thing.
One thing that really caught my attention is that everybody (myself included) was annoyed by the "stoic, arms-crossed stance, no smiles ever" portrayal of Ahsoka in eps 1-4. And now we see that it was deliberate. We see that it's the "shadow" in herself that she still had to confront. That arms-crossed pose is copied from Anakin. It's all about her fear that she may have "inherited" his flaws. And at the end of this episode, when she's confronted all this, we see her portrayal has completely changed, and she's smiling again. A burden has lifted off her shoulders.
It was really very well done.
I feel that the first four episodes could have been two episodes (of 40 minutes each, excl. credits), but this fifth episode is a whole other thing.
One thing that really caught my attention is that everybody (myself included) was annoyed by the "stoic, arms-crossed stance, no smiles ever" portrayal of Ahsoka in eps 1-4. And now we see that it was deliberate. We see that it's the "shadow" in herself that she still had to confront. That arms-crossed pose is copied from Anakin. It's all about her fear that she may have "inherited" his flaws. And at the end of this episode, when she's confronted all this, we see her portrayal has completely changed, and she's smiling again. A burden has lifted off her shoulders.
It was really very well done.
Saw the first two episodes just now. It's pretty average I feel. Nothing really stands out to me. Everythings being done competently but the plot so far seems pretty basic.
When I was watching the opening title scrawl I was wondering how anyone could want to support the Imperial Remnant after the boneheaded Operation Cinder.
Then there's that scene in the flight tower where everyone turns out to be an Imperial Operative and later when they are hauled away Hera Syndulla literally reads my mind and asks "How can anyone still be loyal to the Empire?"
And then Ahsoka is like "They're not loyal. It's greed." And all I could think is Wow... these dudes are fanatically greedy taking on a Jedi and Rebel General.
I heard it gets better so here's hoping!
When I was watching the opening title scrawl I was wondering how anyone could want to support the Imperial Remnant after the boneheaded Operation Cinder.
Then there's that scene in the flight tower where everyone turns out to be an Imperial Operative and later when they are hauled away Hera Syndulla literally reads my mind and asks "How can anyone still be loyal to the Empire?"
And then Ahsoka is like "They're not loyal. It's greed." And all I could think is Wow... these dudes are fanatically greedy taking on a Jedi and Rebel General.
I heard it gets better so here's hoping!
The first two episodes are worldbuilding / character introduction for people not familiar with Rebels, introducing Hera, Sabine, and setting up their motives and backstory. Thus for a lot of long term fans those episodes feel slow since it's retreading already established ground. Heck, from a storytelling perspective, episode 2 only just catches up to the end of Rebels with Sabine joining Ashoka in an almost exact recreation of the scene from Rebels.
Episode 3 apparently was the low point for a lot of people, though I didn't find it as offensive as some, though Episodes 4 and 5 really, REALLY raise the bar.
KilroywasNOTHere
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Darn it I will admit, this show interest me to the point I almost want to get a free trial to watch it.
DarthOne
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Nice to see that people still ah ent learned from the Disney ‘sequel’ films. It’s all ‘(re)member berries’ nonsense.
...or it's actually some damn good television/video, and has heart in it that's been missing from Star Wars since the Prequels.
But hey, what's a happy or upbeat bit of thread without DarthDoompill to try to shit on it, often using crap information or just trying to make people hate Disney, and suck enjoyment out of anything fun or nice 'normies' like.
No one is making you watch shit from comapnies you hate, so what are you even doing in this thread, since it's the 'oh so tainted' 'DisneyWars.'
The 'must hate Disney to have nerd or 'conservative' cred, if you like anything Disney you will be mocked and talked down to' shit is asinine.