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DarthOne

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One of the most common arguments for the evil of opposing Chaos by the Imperium is cause Slaanesh represents LGBT.

Of course, its only problematic when the Imperium opposes Chaos. Other sides are perfectly fine fighting Chaos without it being problematic for some reason.
Since Slaanesh represents depravity, the fact that people are connecting it to LGBT says more about them then anything else...
 

CarlManvers2019

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Since Slaanesh represents depravity, the fact that people are connecting it to LGBT says more about them then anything else...

Depravity and a rather distorted kind of taste

Ever read Horus Heresy Fulgrim? A painter with self-esteem issues and a tendency to cut herself turned an Imperial Army-man’s decaying biological remains into a painting that post-Laer-Blade!Fulgrim found to be rather great whilst he was wearing some dreadful and creepy makeup
 

DarthOne

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Depravity and a rather distorted kind of taste

Ever read Horus Heresy Fulgrim? A painter with self-esteem issues and a tendency to cut herself turned an Imperial Army-man’s decaying biological remains into a painting that post-Laer-Blade!Fulgrim found to be rather great whilst he was wearing some dreadful and creepy makeup
Well if they didn’t have a distorted sense of taste I’d imagine it would be rather difficult for them to be depraved.
 

Navarro

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Considering that the two big Slaaneshi characters are a mad scientist and a duellist obsessed with perfecting his fighting style ...
 

DarthOne

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Considering that the two big Slaaneshi characters are a mad scientist and a duellist obsessed with perfecting his fighting style ...
I suspect that’s mostly because the more typical Slaanishi character wouldn’t sell very well. Especially given how GW seems to be aiming for younger audiences these days-hence the lack of Slaanish in Age if Sigmar and the direction the books are going.

Plus, if we go by the Horus Hersy books then it’s probably a good thing we don’t know what they get up to in their spare time (besides mad science in the one Chaos Space Marine’s case).
 

StormEagle

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Depravity and a rather distorted kind of taste

Ever read Horus Heresy Fulgrim? A painter with self-esteem issues and a tendency to cut herself turned an Imperial Army-man’s decaying biological remains into a painting that post-Laer-Blade!Fulgrim found to be rather great whilst he was wearing some dreadful and creepy makeup

That book ended in a literal blood orgy in the theater of the Andronius, didn’t it?

Honestly, I’ll never understand the idiots that identify with Chaos. Why would anyone ever want want themselves, or a movement they defend, to be represented by Slaanesh?
 

Cherico

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That book ended in a literal blood orgy in the theater of the Andronius, didn’t it?

Honestly, I’ll never understand the idiots that identify with Chaos. Why would anyone ever want want themselves, or a movement they defend, to be represented by Slaanesh?

Storm eagle these are the same people who thought that Pennywise the clown would be a perfect symbol for the LBGQ community. Actual gay men were not pleased to be associated with a child eating monsters, the people who actually read the books asked if they you know Read the fucking books.

Then they got surprised that the clown who eats people was a bad person....

so yeah not very smart.
 

Urabrask Revealed

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Storm eagle these are the same people who thought that Pennywise the clown would be a perfect symbol for the LBGQ community. Actual gay men were not pleased to be associated with a child eating monsters, the people who actually read the books asked if they you know Read the fucking books.

Then they got surprised that the clown who eats people was a bad person....

so yeah not very smart.
These are the same people who claimed some monster called Bobabook or whatever that thing was called as another "gay icon".
Said monster is the manifestation of an abusive mother's anger and hatred towards her child.
 

Terthna

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That book ended in a literal blood orgy in the theater of the Andronius, didn’t it?

Honestly, I’ll never understand the idiots that identify with Chaos. Why would anyone ever want want themselves, or a movement they defend, to be represented by Slaanesh?
Because they have no concept of right and wrong, good and evil, that does not exist within the confines of tribalism. Their tribe is good because it is their tribe, all others are evil because they are not; that's how things work, in their minds.
 

LifeisTiresome

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That book ended in a literal blood orgy in the theater of the Andronius, didn’t it?

Honestly, I’ll never understand the idiots that identify with Chaos. Why would anyone ever want want themselves, or a movement they defend, to be represented by Slaanesh?
Storm eagle these are the same people who thought that Pennywise the clown would be a perfect symbol for the LBGQ community. Actual gay men were not pleased to be associated with a child eating monsters, the people who actually read the books asked if they you know Read the fucking books.

Then they got surprised that the clown who eats people was a bad person....

so yeah not very smart.
These are the same people who claimed some monster called Bobabook or whatever that thing was called as another "gay icon".
Said monster is the manifestation of an abusive mother's anger and hatred towards her child.
These are the same people who call vampire feeding on blood on people by force as rape and then say that Vampires represent LGBTQ.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
That book ended in a literal blood orgy in the theater of the Andronius, didn’t it?

Honestly, I’ll never understand the idiots that identify with Chaos. Why would anyone ever want want themselves, or a movement they defend, to be represented by Slaanesh?

Yup

Honestly, the Emperor’s Children before corruption actually looked to have proper and high class taste whilst also being cultured and polite and even competent and willing to see and improve upon their flaws

Fulgrim as I recall even said somethings about needing to admit or know said flaws and mistakes as its part of the path to perfection

I think I heard on SB once that Warhammer 40K and Judge Dredd were made during Margaret Thatcher’s era and it was supposed to poke fun at the “authoritarianism” of her place
 

Darmani

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let's not pretend that being gay was fashionable and accepted to any degree that being straight and even vulgar could be. At least some of this is just a pendulum swing response
it also helps that because for so long being gay was associated with evil the point mini theatrical villains have very deliberate gay codefiers especially say the Disney villains or simply taking the aspects of culture that have been Stamped Out whitewash or vilified and cleaning them as their own.
And this whitewashing didn't stop even in current year or with the Obama Administration biographies of p l Travers still omit the fact that she was in a lesbian relationship and many other instances. If someone is admirable or if there is any history about them and we're supposed to like them their sexuality will be straightened out or treated as a point of lurid detail

in fact when I heard about this instance I wanted to come here and asked if we could do something else. Look I've never really been happy with how feminism has made itself known in the gaming circles. That is video gaming circles in the last 10 years. but one instance really did decide that I needed to give feminism and gaming another chance and that's when several female Gamers and game journalist in Enthusiast got together in order to put an open letter Alcon encouragement of a magic the Gathering champion who was mocked by a woman he went on a date with when he shared pride in his accomplishments

I may not like the fact that she made a comic effectively to mock the burglary of a man who she judged as a gamer bro douche. But since inevitably being a popular figure on the internet she's likely gotten some hate I just want to say that I'm glad that you made this comic and that's inspired others to make more art and that we hope that she is no longer too stressed.

We don't owe her money we don't owe her a platform. But we do owe her encouragement in order to be a good healthy person because we want to say that we support her being so. Maybe that'll encourage her to not feel hateful towards gamer Bros or feel overwhelmed or emotionally assaulted
 

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A kind of interesting idea that deep down inside SJWs know their the bad guy.

That's why so many identify with them.



I have to disagree with this video. I suspect it's true goal was to justify treating SJWs as the bad guy because "even they know it to be true". I also think the author of the piece misidentifies what is happening and why because it fits into his view of his ideological enemies.

  • The Comic Itself -- The Comic in question is clearly representing someone taking delight in what they clearly view as divine retribution. Also known as karma. The main character is taken delight because has finally "punished" her enemy as He rightly should have long ago. The New Guy represents those of society who "don't get it" and misidentify the situation. He does not realize that these two are enemies and hence, they are at war in some sense, but instead sees two different people who belong to the same "tribe" and is unable to understand why someone would take delight in their misery. The rebuttal from the main character is of course, is because he is clearly someone who "doesn't get it".
  • Mischief Makers -- SJWs are clearly on the nerd spectrum when it comes to their intellectual class. That's not a surprise, but it also helps to pain the way they see things. Since this is basically a strong association with Jung's Magician, it makes sense that one of the ways they might manifest their ire towards their political opponents is through their shadow; the Trickster. The point of the trickster impart is to bring other people down; to take them down a peg and feel good while doing it. Since SJWs cannot currently engage their opponents by force, I suspect a lot of them prefer the Trickster, because it allows them to fight their opponents in a manner that is closer to their true ability.
  • Rejection of the Joker -- The rejection of the joker is obvious. The basic narrative of SJWs is that society is oppressive and abusive towards minorities. That's why you are expected to "give up" your power and wealth to those of whom you have (directly or not) exploited. Joker is a betrayal because it portrays a white man (of all things) as being a victim who is oppressed and tormented by society. If Joker had been black, this film would have been perfectly acceptable.
  • Denaris (spelling?) -- Denaris is a classic story of fall from grace. Of how the Wise King (Queen) is revealed to be the Terrible Tyrant (Queen). It is the unmasking of all that is wrong and terrible in a person, hidden behind a facade of beauty and narrative. Denaris was a major betrayal to the feminist and SJW narrative because for years--years, what had been seen as a pure, good ruler-to-be was revealed as a vicious tyrant who was ready to exterminate a population to get what she wanted. Now, this narrative itself is not toxic to the SJW/feminist ideology in and of itself, but because it was someone they had all closely identified with as part of their mythology of "The Rise of the SJWs", the sudden revelation forced them to face the possibility that they were no better than Denaris herself. That they're all just petty, evil tyrants.

For the most part, these are separate issues. This is not interwoven in some sort of psychological belief that they're really the bad guys. And while who supports or opposes their ideology does influence who they see as an enemy or an ally, that's not uncommon with someone who is strongly politically active. You could run the same game on conservatives. The belief in divine retribution, that enemies should not be treated like members of society, that narratives toxic to their own is heresy, and that characters they strongly associate with being revealed to be evil is mishandling of the character and the franchise.

I don't think I'd argue it appears to the same extent, but that's because I also believe that SJWs themselves are terribly unhealthy people.
 

Shipmaster Sane

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The real problem as I see it is that there isn't even a "SJW" movement outside tumblr to begin with. Its just people having problems with how certain things are run and peoples reactions to thus.

You'll never get a "Social Justice Party" for example
Ah good, you're back for more shitposting. I was worried you'd died.

"there's no movement, just thousands and thousands of people who identify as part of a movement"

But I'm sure "Alt-Right" is a movement, yeah?
 

Husky_Khan

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The real problem as I see it is that there isn't even a "SJW" movement outside tumblr to begin with. Its just people having problems with how certain things are run and peoples reactions to thus.

You'll never get a "Social Justice Party" for example

In America you'll probably never get a Social Justice party but that's because the US is basically a two party system. Any 'insurgency' movement would come up from within the party like with Barack Obama and Donald Trump as opposed to leading an actual third party.

Doesn't mean one party or the other doesn't have certain subgroups whether is a Freedom Caucus, Blue Dogs or in regards to your post it'd be the Justice Democrats and the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
 

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