Fallout The Eagle And The Bear [Fallout AU]

Well if the NCR has enough technological know-how to churn out plasma anti-tank missiles they can use that as a decent stopgap. Of course their is also the fact that their artillery is not up matching the US gauss based models, which means they can't rely on pinning tanks down and calling down the hammer as well. I suppose they can seomwhat get around that by increasing the amount of mortars per company. With power armor the equipment would be pretty mobile and harder to pin down for counter-battery fire.
 
I think the Followers have probably still been replaced by the OSI. They were always an independent organization not actually beholden to the NCR. They managed to get a near monopoly on science and higher education within the NCR, and the NCR more or less tolerated it until the Followers started to loudly object to the NCR's expansionism. At which point they suffered a schism.

A majority of the Followers, upset with what the NCR was becoming, left the NCR and traveled east into the Wastelands to spread knowledge and provide medical care.

A minority agreed with the NCR and formed the nucleus of the Office of Science and Industry, bringing tech development and the higher education system under NCR control.

If they got their good ending in New Vegas, which I think they did for this story, they're allowed to stay in the Old Mormon Fort and expand their operations in the region. But they're still very much an independent organization that would basically have to sustain itself on charity.

I'd be surprised if that limited reconciliation lasted. Like, unless the Followers have become a lot more jingoistic the NCR probably looks down on them for being anti-war hippies or something.
 
Eh, I'd expect New Vegas and Shady Sands offer an equivalent civilian standard of living to E-USA cities at the very least. The difference would be in the NCR also having Ronto level dens of corruption, exploitation and misery masquerading as 'civilization' that Shady Sands can't deal with since they are still 'doing their part'.

I mean, look at canon, where New Reno under NCR rule in 2281 ... is the exact same as independent New Reno in 2241.
 
Sneak peak of the next chapter!

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General Edward Swanson of the LSR Army had not spent the past few days sitting in Fort Worth out of physical cowardice. He had not done it to see which way the wind was blowing. It had been a moral cowardice that had driven him, a desire to delay taking action – picking a side, that was – indefinitely. And yet the old Texas – the Texas that maintained itself in armed neutrality, that courted both sides of the great North American divide but never committed itself to neither – was irretrievable. It had died with President Carrera.

“So be it,” he muttered to himself, and gave the first order of the battle to the units under his command - 40,000 fresh troops, all in all.

“All batteries, fire for effect on the pre-designated co-ordinates, under combat plan Grizzly Mountain. Let’s kick these interloping bastards out.”
 
I mean, look at canon, where New Reno under NCR rule in 2281 ... is the exact same as independent New Reno in 2241.

How would the Enclave deal with places like that? Mass executions and leaving the bodies to rot out in the open?

Or have they moved on from those times where it was accepted that since the Wasteland was harsh, it needed a harsh but firm hand to guide it
 
I would bet on mass executions, they're drug dealers, criminals and 'immoral' deviants of restored America. And supporters of communists when the dealings of China has with the NCR comes to light.... That's going to go well for everyone in California.
 
I would bet on mass executions, they're drug dealers, criminals and 'immoral' deviants of restored America. And supporters of communists when the dealings of China has with the NCR comes to light.... That's going to go well for everyone in California.

Has the Enclave legalised marijuana or other drug farms yet @Navarro ?

Communist, I wonder just how communist economically and political-belief speaking it currently is, trying to enforce communism on a vast nation maybe too much interference or bureacracy in a wasteland
 
Has the Enclave legalised marijuana or other drug farms yet @Navarro ?

Communist, I wonder just how communist economically and political-belief speaking it currently is, trying to enforce communism on a vast nation maybe too much interference or bureacracy in a wasteland
I remember in fallout 2 the Mordinos family of New Reno had the drug lab that produced Jet. I don't think the Enclave would Legalize Jet.

It would be easy to justify certain things if you scream communist and point fingers in the Fallout universe considering you had such a polarized atmosphere that engulfed the world in nuclear devastation. If it happened once you will make damn sure it doesn't happen again.

Heck it's up to Navarro what's going to happen but it's fun to speculate.
 
I remember in fallout 2 the Mordinos family of New Reno had the drug lab that produced Jet. I don't think the Enclave would Legalize Jet.

It would be easy to justify certain things if you scream communist and point fingers in the Fallout universe considering you had such a polarized atmosphere that engulfed the world in nuclear devastation. If it happened once you will make damn sure it doesn't happen again.

Heck it's up to Navarro what's going to happen but it's fun to speculate.

How deadly is jet on the body and mind even consumed somewhat irregularly?

Navarro has said before that he’s not the guys who made Fallout whenenever I point out the possibility of full outright nuclear war and losing all the infrastructure again
 
How deadly is jet on the body and mind even consumed somewhat irregularly?

Navarro has said before that he’s not the guys who made Fallout whenenever I point out the possibility of full outright nuclear war and losing all the infrastructure again
I'd assume it's basically aa methamphetamine stand in. So something like what meth does likley.
 
It's a meta-amphetamine variant of methamphetamine. Pre-War meat companies were experimenting with a protein extract, but the slightest contamination of the product made it act as a potent amphetamine as it was being digested. Instead of abandoning it altogether, they decided to give it to their cows. Somehow, when all the radiation mutated them into brahmin, the extract basically bonded with the cattle and became a natural byproduct of their digestive processes. As a result, all brahmin shit contains Jet.

In other words, it's basically a "super" meth that provides a significantly more intense high than regular meth. But the high also fades much, much more quickly than regular meth.

So if you want to know what Jet does to people . . . It's a more addictive form of meth that gets you into the addiction cycle much harder and faster than normal meth. So I guess just look at what meth addiction does to people and think, "It does that, but faster."

And since, again, literally all brahmin shit contains the stuff it must be a bitch and a half to fight Jet use. You'd basically have to replace all your cattle with non-mutated cows to get rid of the stuff.
 
It's a meta-amphetamine variant of methamphetamine. Pre-War meat companies were experimenting with a protein extract, but the slightest contamination of the product made it act as a potent amphetamine as it was being digested. Instead of abandoning it altogether, they decided to give it to their cows. Somehow, when all the radiation mutated them into brahmin, the extract basically bonded with the cattle and became a natural byproduct of their digestive processes. As a result, all brahmin shit contains Jet.

In other words, it's basically a "super" meth that provides a significantly more intense high than regular meth. But the high also fades much, much more quickly than regular meth.

So if you want to know what Jet does to people . . . It's a more addictive form of meth that gets you into the addiction cycle much harder and faster than normal meth. So I guess just look at what meth addiction does to people and think, "It does that, but faster."

And since, again, literally all brahmin shit contains the stuff it must be a bitch and a half to fight Jet use. You'd basically have to replace all your cattle with non-mutated cows to get rid of the stuff.
That's ironic because fighting meth IRL is a bitch. Because anyone with even a bit of chemistry knowledge can cook it.
 

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