Star Wars The Mandalorian

[Flintsteel]

This 'Watch' group that Bo said our dear Mando is part of is probably not Deathwatch itself - after all, Bo herself was part of it for a while. My guess is they were an even-more fanatical group that was a sub-group of Deathwatch itself, and splintered off after the martial clans re-conquered Mandalor at the end of the Clone War.

 

[Bacle]

This 'Watch' group that Bo said our dear Mando is part of is probably not Deathwatch itself - after all, Bo herself was part of it for a while. My guess is they were an even-more fanatical group that was a sub-group of Deathwatch itself, and splintered off after the martial clans re-conquered Mandalor at the end of the Clone War.

From what I've heard, Dinn's group is called 'The Children of the Watch'.

So they are likely a Deathwatch splinter group, that may have split off during or before the Clone Wars.

 

[Zachowon]

From what I've heard, Dinn's group is called 'The Children of the Watch'.

So they are likely a Deathwatch splinter group, that may have split off during or before the Clone Wars.

They definitely did, as he was a foundling during the wars

 

[Bacle]

They definitely did, as he was a foundling during the wars

Sure, he was, but we don't have a solid time for then that group split off from Deathwatch proper.

My guess is it was pre-Clone Wars, and they went to ground before the war broke out, because there was no mention of them by any of the Deathwatch people or the Mando's under Satine.

 

[Zachowon]

Sure, he was, but we don't have a solid time for then that group split off from Deathwatch proper.

My guess is it was pre-Clone Wars, and they went to ground before the war broke out, because there was no mention of them by any of the Deathwatch people or the Mando's under Satine.

That is why I am positive they broke before the clone wars because of when Dinn joins them it is during the clone wars. He doesnt know of the current team.

So what are the spoiler reuirments here?

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Spoiler: A name drop

So is Ahsoka going to be the charecter that holds the Jedi & force portions of Star Wars together now that the skywalkers have been jacked up beyond repair? I get the feeling she's going to be the charecter that gets brought up anytime the force needs to play a major factor in a story. I mean heck considering the mortis arc they already have the grounds to make her into an immortal force goddess if they really wanted to which also means in theory they could stick her in any point from here to beyond without having to make her a force ghost.

 

[Zachowon]

Spoiler: A name drop

So is Ahsoka going to be the charecter that holds the Jedi & force portions of Star Wars now that the skywalkers have been jacked up beyond repair? I get the feeling she's going to be the charecter that gets brought up anytime the force needs plsys a major factor and the story. I mean heck considering the mortis arc they already have the ability to make her into an immortal force goddess if they really wanted to.

Spoiler

I think they are using her here because Dave Filoni. She also has ties to the Mandos pretty well, so using her makes sense.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Spoiler

I think they are using her here because Dave Filoni. She also has ties to the Mandos pretty well, so using her makes sense.

Spoiler: Spoiler

fioni is still one of the top 3 big dogs at lucas anf tono is literally his pet OC so it's hard not to wonder just how much influance she'll have on Star Wars moving forward.

 

[Zachowon]

Spoiler: Spoiler

fioni is still one of the top 3 big dogs at lucas anf tono is literally his pet OC so it's hard not to wonder just how much influance she'll have on Star Wars moving forward.

Spoiler

I feel as which they will use her for when she is needed, instead of shoving her every where. They ,ay learn form doing that with Rey

 

[Sailor.X]

From what I've heard, Dinn's group is called 'The Children of the Watch'.

So they are likely a Deathwatch splinter group, that may have split off during or before the Clone Wars.

I can see why they splintered. The other Mandalorian clans didn't want to have a Bucket on their heads 24/7

 

[ShadowArxxy]

From what I've heard, Dinn's group is called 'The Children of the Watch'.

Not quite. That's what Bo-Katan calls him, but taken in context, it's not a formal group name, she's saying that he's a child of The Watch, I.e. a Deathwatch foundling.

 

[Zachowon]

Not quite. That's what Bo-Katan calls him, but taken in context, it's not a formal group name, she's saying that he's a child of The Watch, I.e. a Deathwatch foundling.

I doubt it as he had no markings of deathwatch, nor do they follow the whole never remove helmet ideal either

 

[ShadowArxxy]

I doubt it as he had no markings of deathwatch, nor do they follow the whole never remove helmet ideal either

The Mandalorians who were seen rescuing him back in the Season 1 flashbacks were visibly Deathwatch; this was commented on at the time.

They definitely did, as he was a foundling during the wars

This is actually unclear. If you look closely at the droids in the flashbacks, they have visible differences from the Clone Wars and prequel-era models -- they're upgrades, so there's a strong possibility they are postwar models.

 

[Zachowon]

The Mandalorians who were seen rescuing him back in the Season 1 flashbacks were visibly Deathwatch; this was commented on at the time.

They were not all deathwatch. They seemed to be from various clans iirc. Were the deathwatch THAT large of a clan that they could have covenz with dozens of members around the galaxy?

 

[ShadowArxxy]

They were not all deathwatch. They seemed to be from various clans iirc. Were the deathwatch THAT large of a clan that they could have covenz with dozens of members around the galaxy?

Deathwatch wasn't a clan, it was an organization that went across clan lines and was widely supported.

Deathwatch was basically the conservative Mandalorians who wanted to stick to their traditional ways, versus the radical changes demanded by Satine's minority in power faction.

 

[Zachowon]

Deathwatch wasn't a clan, it was an organization that went across clan lines and was widely supported.

Deathwatch was basically the conservative Mandalorians who wanted to stick to their traditional ways, versus the radical changes demanded by Satine's minority in power faction.

Yes and no. They seemed to be the radical left/right who later were taken advantage over by a sith. I doubt he was a member of the deathwatch in ideals, more of ties to the gorup/clan

 

[Skallagrim]

In the official subs, 'Child of the Watch' is capitalised. It seems like a real title. I also seem to recall that in the flashbacks of our protagonist being found, the Mandalorians saving him are Death Watch. Given that the Empire has apparently fucked over the Mandalorians in some pretty horrid way, I'd say that their whole society is even more fractured than before, and they exist only in some kind of diaspora now.

Deathwatch probably fell apart after the Maul debacle, with the Children of the Watch being an ultra-traditionalist splinter group that retains identity and cohesion by stressing rigid adherence to the (real and/or imaginary) "traditional way" of their people.

Meanwhile, Bo-Katan had already separated her own little club (the Nite Owls) from Death Watch due to Maul killing Pre Vizsla and taking over. By the time of the Siege of Mandalore, she seems to have mellowed out, compared to her earlier radical stance. Her changing views (and her goal of uniting all Mandalorians) give her personal reasons to dislike isolationist splinter groups.

I wonder if there are more factions, or if they're going to simplify it to just these two groups.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

In the official subs, 'Child of the Watch' is capitalised. It seems like a real title. I also seem to recall that in the flashbacks of our protagonist being found, the Mandalorians saving him are Death Watch. Given that the Empire has apparently fucked over the Mandalorians in some pretty horrid way, I'd say that their whole society is even more fractured than before, and they exist only in some kind of diaspora now.

My assumption at this point is they're probably going off of the Rebels storyline where the Ghost crew convinced Bo-Katan to make an open stand against the Empire. Clearly this went poorly for the Mandalorians, with massive casualties suffered, large amounts of beskar captured and melted down by the Empire, and the surviving Mandalorians broken, scattered, and generally in hiding. Bo-Katan herself obviously survived, but lost the Darksaber to Gideon.

I find it interesting that Din believed that Mandalore itself had been reduced to an uninhabitable wasteland, but Bo-Katan told him not to believe everything he was told. That makes it sound like the Watch faction was both greatly exaggerating the scope of the Empire's destruction of Mandalore and concealing the existence of any Mandalorian survivors outside of their own coverts.

 

[ShadowArxxy]

They were not all deathwatch.

I just double-checked this with the longest version of the flashback sequence, the one in the Season 1 finale episode. There are four or five Mandalorians visible, and *all* of them are wearing the distinct blue-and-silver color pattern of Death Watch, although not the Clan Viszla sigil. The Mandalorians at the covert later on have a wide variety of armor colors (and are clearly post-scattering survivors), but the group that rescued Din was all Death Watch.

 

[Zachowon]

I just double-checked this with the longest version of the flashback sequence, the one in the Season 1 finale episode. There are four or five Mandalorians visible, and *all* of them are wearing the distinct blue-and-silver color pattern of Death Watch, although not the Clan Viszla sigil. The Mandalorians at the covert later on have a wide variety of armor colors (and are clearly post-scattering survivors), but the group that rescued Din was all Death Watch.

I think he was one of their foundlings, but the watch is just anyone who follows the traditional way