The Americas The Tyranny of Trudeau's Canada


Long but worth the read. A couple excerpts:

"The crowds remained dignified while getting thrashed. Their resolution was powerful to observe, and useless against an opponent with training and the instruments of force. For the naive protestors who believed that their good intentions were sufficient to stay firmly planted in Ottawa, they got a lesson in the rules of power. In the zero-sum nature of conflict, impersonal violence beats unarmed conviction – and because the demonstrators maintained their pacifism, their chants to “Hold the line!” sounded like movie dialogue."

"The resignations may have felt like victories but were actually defeats, since the vacated positions are now being replaced with regime loyalists. Protests work well when they align with the aims of the regime, at which point any violence and lawlessness will be excused, as with the Black Lives Matter riots of 2020. When demonstrations contradict the regime’s agenda they only serve as a brief pressure release for discontentment, after which you are expected to go home."

A good point. Complete peaceful and non-confrontational responses only really work when the enemy can be hurt by them. Gandhi is the ultimate example of this: His peaceful resistance only worked because he was dealing with the British, and he successfully trapped them in a moral conundrum where they could crush him but to do so they would have to violate their own stiff upper lip and claim of moral superiority to the uncivilized Indians. Had Gandhi tried it against Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan he would have been shot first time around and that would have been the end of it.
 
A good point. Complete peaceful and non-confrontational responses only really work when the enemy can be hurt by them. Gandhi is the ultimate example of this: His peaceful resistance only worked because he was dealing with the British, and he successfully trapped them in a moral conundrum where they could crush him but to do so they would have to violate their own stiff upper lip and claim of moral superiority to the uncivilized Indians. Had Gandhi tried it against Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan he would have been shot first time around and that would have been the end of it.


Harry turtledove wrote a short story about just that, Basically there is a time for peaceful resistance and a time for resistance of the more violent variety. But I would argue those protests do align with what that regime proclaims to a degree.
 
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CAF to soon release new ethos, dress code refresh | CTV News

woke idiots in charge of our military are running it into the ground.

"71% of the CAF are still white males and that's a bad thing"
-Maj.-Gen. Lise Bourgon

"diversity is our strength" won't much use when a real war comes around.

oh and we're pretty much out of portable AT weapons and we have zero MANPADS.

I hope the DPR and LPR likes their new collection!
 
So if Canada were to splinter, where would the states go? I heard it said the plains states would ask to join the US. Ottowa would do its own thing. Quebec would go independent. The Yukon may stay with Ontario along with the Marentines. Vancouver would go independent.
 
CAF to soon release new ethos, dress code refresh | CTV News

woke idiots in charge of our military are running it into the ground.

"71% of the CAF are still white males and that's a bad thing"
-Maj.-Gen. Lise Bourgon

"diversity is our strength" won't much use when a real war comes around.

oh and we're pretty much out of portable AT weapons and we have zero MANPADS.

I hope the DPR and LPR likes their new collection!
Thank God they are it's so much harder to defeat a comptetant military
 
So if Canada were to splinter, where would the states go? I heard it said the plains states would ask to join the US. Ottowa would do its own thing. Quebec would go independent. The Yukon may stay with Ontario along with the Marentines. Vancouver would go independent.
I would think that the Prairies would definitely join the US, Quebec and the Maritimes would become independent, but BC would be a tricky issue. I would also advocate for the creation of a Western Canadian Republic if it was possible, but in all honesty, Yukon would be better off uniting with BC than remaining with what’s left of Canada. One of the former Premiers of BC did threaten to secede from Canada and take Yukon with it, and I did say this in an earlier post on this thread, simply because I kinda liked the idea of an independent BC and Yukon together.
 
Be funnier if most of BC split off from Vancouver and left it on its own. Kind of like how I'd like most of California to split off from San Fran down to San Diego and leave them on their own, and most of NY state from NYC.
 
CAF to soon release new ethos, dress code refresh | CTV News

woke idiots in charge of our military are running it into the ground.

"71% of the CAF are still white males and that's a bad thing"
-Maj.-Gen. Lise Bourgon

"diversity is our strength" won't much use when a real war comes around.

oh and we're pretty much out of portable AT weapons and we have zero MANPADS.

I hope the DPR and LPR likes their new collection!

Your AT weapons are burning russian tanks now,when you do not need them as long as USA exist.In that particural case,you did good thing.Russians are really genociding people on Ukraine,when Trudeau only send some people to prison.
Compared to KGBstan - nothing.
 
I would think that the Prairies would definitely join the US, Quebec and the Maritimes would become independent, but BC would be a tricky issue. I would also advocate for the creation of a Western Canadian Republic if it was possible, but in all honesty, Yukon would be better off uniting with BC than remaining with what’s left of Canada. One of the former Premiers of BC did threaten to secede from Canada and take Yukon with it, and I did say this in an earlier post on this thread, simply because I kinda liked the idea of an independent BC and Yukon together.
Speaking of splintering: I've heard Jamaica plans on going full independent & pivoting away from the UK Commonwealth.
 
So if Canada were to splinter, where would the states go? I heard it said the plains states would ask to join the US. Ottowa would do its own thing. Quebec would go independent. The Yukon may stay with Ontario along with the Marentines. Vancouver would go independent.
I would think that the Prairies would definitely join the US, Quebec and the Maritimes would become independent, but BC would be a tricky issue. I would also advocate for the creation of a Western Canadian Republic if it was possible, but in all honesty, Yukon would be better off uniting with BC than remaining with what’s left of Canada. One of the former Premiers of BC did threaten to secede from Canada and take Yukon with it, and I did say this in an earlier post on this thread, simply because I kinda liked the idea of an independent BC and Yukon together.
I'd agree that the Prairies would join the US. Realistically Ontario and the Maritimes will try as well, Ontario is still the world's most indebted sub-sovereign entity - back in 2015 the province already had 2x California's debt and Ford has pretty comprehensively failed to push it down meaningfully, in fact thanks to Corona spending it's set to hit $503 billion soon - while the Maritime Provinces have been in an extended state of slow collapse (in everything, from finances to demographics driven by their high taxes & lack of opportunities) and reliant on handouts ('equalization payments', that is the feds robbing mostly Alberta and sometimes Ontario to cut nice fat welfare checks to Quebec & the Maritimes for votes) to stay afloat for decades; they are in fact more reliant than even Quebec or Manitoba (the poorest Prairie province) on federal funding to have any social programs at all.

Suffice to say, the chances that either Ontario or the Maritime bloc try to go it alone are infinitesimal, they just cannot sustain themselves and don't even have Quebec's nationalistic pride to convince any Ontarians or Maritimers to endure the hard times because 'hey at least we're finally free'. In the realm of American politics, I guess you could sell joint Ontario & Prairie + NWT/Yukon statehood + BC's interior as a balanced way of admitting both into the Union (1 big-ass blue state to balance out the 3/4/5 smaller red ones) to get it through Congress, but the Maritimes would be the hardest sell of all. They're poor, will need indefinite federal money streams to prop them up, underpopulated and continuously bleeding people to greener pastures, and don't really have anything that can't be found anywhere else - the Grand Banks are nice to have but it's not like you can't find fish or decent port facilities in existing states right now.
Be funnier if most of BC split off from Vancouver and left it on its own. Kind of like how I'd like most of California to split off from San Fran down to San Diego and leave them on their own, and most of NY state from NYC.
This is exactly what I would expect to happen in a 'Canada is no more' scenario. Vancouver (and dragging Victoria with it) would almost certainly become a Chinese protectorate/outpost, but the bulk of BC has a relationship with that urban core which is similar to what Bakersfield, Redding and really most of California has to Greater LA, Sacramento and SF. They'd sooner split off to join Alberta or become another US state in their own right than be made to follow Vancouver's lead yet again.
 

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