Stargate Through the Looking Glass and into Heaven.

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
Meanwhile captured Goa'uld cargo ships and Alkesh will do most of the interstellar logistics of Earth at least in the Milky way along with the ships of the hmmm lets call it the Lion class when the they're available so most of the big ships of the fleet be they Earth built or otherwise can remain on station as the home fleet or be committed to vital operations and not cargo hauling

I don't know how big a fleet Earth will have until Atlantis, but that'll very much be an "HOLY FUCK ALL HANDS ON DECK!" type deal.

Right now, they have a lot of wildlife whose genetic material will be hilariously valuable. Ba'al is gonna straight up offer to trade a moon for some dogs. the USSF might end up using their Alkesh's to ferry cargo and cash around.

When they're not fighting off the Jaffa equivalent of the FBI's HRT or Seal teams or something.
 
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Knowledgeispower

Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
right i got the basic specs of my leopard inspired design done
Lion class multirole ship stock configuration
Physical stats
Wingspan 72 meters
Maximum hull width 32 meters
Length 90 meters
Height 21 meters(no horizontal stabilizers are needed due to Stargate tech so the design actually gains a couple decks despite being slightly shorter)
Mass dry mass 3500 tons fully loaded 6500 tons

Equipment loadout.
Powerplant four Naquada Generators
Engines 8 Sublight thrusters 4 primary and 4 secondary
Anti gravity systems
Artificial gravity plating
inertial compensators
1 hyperdrive capable of moving the vessel at up to 8000 light years per day
1 Goa’uld based cloaking device
1 set of transportation rings
(Refitted latter) Asgard Transporter
As much Electronic warfare, electronic intelligence, and electronic countermeasure as can be crammed and powered with copious amounts of power for them
A variant of the
Aegis Baseline 10 Combat System[2]
AN/SPY-6(V)3 Enterprise Air Surveillance Radar (EASR)[5]
Shields 12.5 times the strength of what an Al’kesh has.
200 tons of armor
And advanced sensor and computer systems to run it all.

Crew 40 personnel broken down into the following 7 officers,3 warrant officers, 30 enlisted of which 9 are NCOs(with everyone getting their own bed albeit with naval style accommodation)
Regular passenger load up to 60 personnel (when more twenty of them are aboard said extra people either have to hot bunk with the crew or deal with having to sleep on cots in the cargo hold)
Maximum life support capacity 180(although usually no more than 120 people are ever aboard at any one time, redundancy is a critical thing for something like life support)

Cargo
One large cargo bay with 2 large doors one on either side (ie the two doors on each side got merged together) with space for up to 8 large armored vehicles and 4 smaller vehicles and stores for them at the same time or the equivalent amount of equipment or up to 2000 tons of cargo or a mixture thereof.
A small cargo hold holding up to 200 tons of cargo directly aft of the cargo bay primarily for consumables
1 small sickbay

Armament
32 wing hard points for ordnance of various types
16 modified MK 57 VLS launch tubes usually loaded with 6 modified evolved sea sparrows or 2 Standard missiles each(typically 16 standard missiles and 48 ESSMs)
2 wing tip mounted twin staff cannons(basically the gun turret of an alkesh per wing tip)
2 twin rail gun turrets mounted one each on the dorsal and ventral surfaces
4 laser point defense mounts
4 equivalents to the Pantsir-M - Wikipedia
 
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The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
right i got the basic specs of my leopard inspired design done
Lion class multirole ship stock configuration
Physical stats
Wingspan 72 meters
Maximum hull width 32 meters
Length 90 meters
Height 21 meters(no horizontal stabilizers are needed due to Stargate tech so the design actually gains a couple decks despite being slightly shorter)
Mass dry mass 3300 tons

Equipment loadout.
Powerplant four Naquada Generators
Engines 8 Sublight thrusters 4 primary and 4 secondary
Anti gravity systems
Artificial gravity plating
inertial compensators
1 hyperdrive capable of moving the vessel at up to 8000 light years per day
1 Goa’uld based cloaking device
As much Electronic warfare, electronic intelligence, and electronic countermeasure as can be crammed and powered with copious amounts of power for them
A variant of the
Aegis Baseline 10 Combat System[2]
AN/SPY-6(V)3 Enterprise Air Surveillance Radar (EASR)[5]
Shields 12.5 times the strength of what an Al’kesh has.
200 tons of armor
And advanced sensor and computer systems to run it all.

Crew 40 personnel 7 officers,3 warrant officers, 30 enlisted of which 8 are NCOs(with everyone getting their own bed)
Regular passenger load up to 60 personnel (when more twenty of them are aboard said extra people either have to hot bunk with the crew or deal with having to sleep on cots in the cargo hold)
Maximum life support capacity 180(although usually no more than 120 people are ever aboard at any one time, redundancy is a critical thing for something like life support)

Cargo
One large cargo bay with 2 large doors one on either side (ie the two doors on each side got merged together) with space for up to 8 large armored vehicles and 4 smaller vehicles at the same time or the equivalent amount of equipment or up to 1500 tons of cargo or a mixture thereof.
A small cargo hold holding up to 150 tons of cargo directly aft of the cargo bay primarily for consumables
1 small sickbay

Armament
32 wing hard points for ordnance of various types
16 modified MK 57 VLS launch tubes usually loaded with 5 modified evolved sea sparrows each
2 wing tip mounted twin staff cannons(basically the gun turret of an alkesh per wing tip)
2 twin rail gun turrets mounted one each on the dorsal and ventral surfaces
4 laser point defense mounts
4 equivalents to the Pantsir-M - Wikipedia

I like it, it may be something they churn out during the Atlantis days, or a few models would be visible by "Season 3".

Though I might make it more spartan and cramped at first, with them cracking out the bigger ships when they solve the power supply issue for Atlantis.
 

Knowledgeispower

Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
I like it, it may be something they churn out during the Atlantis days, or a few models would be visible by "Season 3".

Though I might make it more spartan and cramped at first, with them cracking out the bigger ships when they solve the power supply issue for Atlantis.
Compared to a BC-303 or 304 its actually rather cramped for the crew especially when having passengers aboard. The only reason there's a wardroom and a enlisted mess is that when there are up to 60(or more)passengers aboard as routinely happens there wouldn't be place for everyone to eat otherwise and the wardroom also functions as the planning room for operations and there's no separated NCO's mess which is something they've added to frickin subs since the 70s. Only two people get their own rooms the captain and the XO, everyone else is sharing with at least 4 people(the other officers and the warrant officers) albeit when no passengers are aboard it's less crowded in enlisted land due to 20 spare bunks being a thing. Basically think of most of the volume being taken up by the various weapon systems, the cargo bay, the engineering section, and everything else needed to make a starship work. It's a functional design. Also fun fact to shrink its size footprint in order to fit in various facilities and when on the ground in the field its wings can fold(back and then up in this case) like most naval aircraft.

But yeah this is the standard configuration after several different prototypes of the design having been around for awhile. A bit of lore would be that said prototypes are being pulled from the line refited into the standard configuration (or being refitted in order to field test several new proposed variants/configurations) as is practical at around the time Atlantis kicks off
 
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Knowledgeispower

Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
This feature feels like gilding the lilly for an aerodyne dropper. Wouldn't making them fixed forward at the wing roots make more engineering sense? Giant aircraft cannon.
The turrets are retractable and moreover as the main guns need as good a field of fire as possible. Plus the shields enabling a lot cheating aerodynamically speaking
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
By the way @The Immortal Watch Dog what do you mean by Earth having lots of valuable wildlife? Are the body stealers craving tea and coffee? Or various other spices and food stuffs? Or is it moreso animals?

Animals mostly but I can also imagine them wanting tea and cocaine and stuff.

Ba'al will likely throw Naquadah and rare metals at them for wolves. Certain Goa'uld and Jaffa are suckers for companion animals and they'll want drugs and food.


It's the other way as well, there are a lot of extinct megafauna and wildlife that I could see the Tau'ri eventually wanting.

Earth is poor in Naquadah but rich in curiosities basically.
 

Knowledgeispower

Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
Animals mostly but I can also imagine them wanting tea and cocaine and stuff.

Ba'al will likely throw Naquadah and rare metals at them for wolves. Certain Goa'uld and Jaffa are suckers for companion animals and they'll want drugs and food.


It's the other way as well, there are a lot of extinct megafauna and wildlife that I could see the Tau'ri eventually wanting.

Earth is poor in Naquadah but rich in curiosities basically.
I wonder what price the Tau'ri can extract from the inevitable System Lord who has been craving nutmeg (or something along those lines) ever since the last planet in the Goa'uld Empire that grew it got base delta zeroed during the Titans Rebellion for the seeds and training the expertise required to grow it
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
I wonder what price the Tau'ri can extract from the inevitable System Lord who has been craving nutmeg (or something along those lines) ever since the last planet in the Goa'uld Empire that grew it got base delta zeroed during the Titans Rebellion for the seeds and training the expertise required to grow it

Hah Nutmeg, yeah I hasn't thought about that. There are probably a few spices and other goods the system lords didn't have when they were driven off earth thirty or so thousand years back.

They have to convince a few of the system lords that they totally aren't space ISIS on a holy war to destroy the empire in revenge for their enslavement first though.

And survivor Apophis.

After that? What I think they will want is access to tech, not bleeding edge Goa'uld stuff but something that can begin helping back home.

I think they'll mostly want naquadah for the time being.
 

Knowledgeispower

Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
Hah Nutmeg, yeah I hasn't thought about that. There are probably a few spices and other goods the system lords didn't have when they were driven off earth thirty or so thousand years back.

They have to convince a few of the system lords that they totally aren't space ISIS on a holy war to destroy the empire in revenge for their enslavement first though.

And survivor Apophis.

After that? What I think they will want is access to tech, not bleeding edge Goa'uld stuff but something that can begin helping back home.

I think they'll mostly want naquadah for the time being.
hmmmm naquadah and triniumn and tech to remove the problem of global warming should do nicely
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
hmmmm naquadah and triniumn and tech to remove the problem of global warming should do nicely

food and energy, then probably dealing with global warming but that requires them not to be caught up in an Apophis' off his pills moment.

I've alluded to some of it, Lahm finding superconductive plants and the like.

The System Lords did a lot of terraforming though they aren't as good at it as the Fyryns (The story's Furlings) were...They got wiped out in the war against the System Lords and Thoth has been trying to figure out how they worked their miracles in planetary engineering ever since.

Twinkies...it's all about the Twinkies.

"Tell him about the Twinkies."

"What about the Twinkies?"

I hadn't considered that, shitposty as it is. I wonder if there might be a market for human junk food?

I know they'll want access to the Alteran/Lantean outpost in Antarctica though less for the weapon system and more for access to their research on ascension and other medical stuff.
 

The Whispering Monk

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Osaul
food and energy, then probably dealing with global warming but that requires them not to be caught up in an Apophis' off his pills moment.

I've alluded to some of it, Lahm finding superconductive plants and the like.

The System Lords did a lot of terraforming though they aren't as good at it as the Fyryns (The story's Furlings) were...They got wiped out in the war against the System Lords and Thoth has been trying to figure out how they worked their miracles in planetary engineering ever since.



I hadn't considered that, shitposty as it is. I wonder if there might be a market for human junk food?

I know they'll want access to the Alteran/Lantean outpost in Antarctica though less for the weapon system and more for access to their research on ascension and other medical stuff.

You might consider ot shitposty, but I was completely serious. if theres one thing the SGC can get a lot of it's Pogie bait.

I bet you can win over a system lord or two with pure mass produced sugar.
 

Knowledgeispower

Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
I have a hilarious image of a meeting of the System Lords where they decided to not attack Earth for a year so long as they cater the next meeting due to most the food being relatively bland in comparison to what Ba'al bought from the SGC. As it turns out Goa'uld really like very spicy food. Indonesian and Indian cuisine just became really valuable. For some strange reason a lot of Jaffa like MREs as well
 
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Knowledgeispower

Ah I love the smell of missile spam in the morning
food and energy, then probably dealing with global warming but that requires them not to be caught up in an Apophis' off his pills moment.
I was moreso thinking of it being a requirement due to political reasons. After if the Republicans can say "DARPA" has a solution to climate change developed during their administration they shoot down a major leftist political talking point.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
You might consider ot shitposty, but I was completely serious. if theres one thing the SGC can get a lot of it's Pogie bait.

While I did think it was a joke, you were absolutely right though. There's probably a lot of innocuous crap by our standards that they'd go apeshit over.



I bet you can win over a system lord or two with pure mass produced sugar.


Refined white sugar hit 1500s Europe like cocaine hit 1970s America. This seems likely.

Jelly Beans becomes the Opium of the System lords?

I can work with this.

I was moreso thinking of it being a requirement due to political reasons. After if the Republicans can say "DARPA" has a solution to climate change developed during their administration they shoot down a major leftist political talking point.

Ah yeah, that's true.

Makes sense too. I was planning on having them discover high yield oxygen producing plants on Abydos and then trading for the rest of the components.

That works!

Thanks guys.
 
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The Whispering Monk

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Osaul
I had a thought in my head...

--Stargate Command Accounting office...

-office CO, "Who in the hell authorized a P.O. for 5 metric tons of Twinkies for Christ's sake?!"

-admin Specialist, "General Hammond did Sir. And yes, I already verified the amount."

"How MANY freekin' Twinkies do we need?!"

"Well Sir, each box is about 16 ounces even if we consider packing and crating, and there are 10 Twinkies per box. So we just ordered 100,000 Twinkies Sir."
 

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