When China pay for it? or Putin.Or germans.All hate USA and want you gone.
P.S Merry Easter !
United States Trump 2nd Term - Planning and Beyond
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Putin killed any one who could reasonably replace him Russia's leadership cadre is sparse and pretty much used up and the war in Ukraine bleed out much of their possible soilger class when they had a massive baby bust. Russia after Putin is going to head into a very dark time indeed the Ukraine war was just one conflict in a row they had to win in order to get what they think they need of security before this demographic winter happened.
And they failed horribly, best case Senerio is civil war after Putin dies.
China
Every problem the west has? The inflation, oppressive governance, bad corrupt and decadent leadership that is morally corrupt? China has that on Steroids. The current leader tried to deal with that by centerializing all power into himself and removing all other power centers like Mao did and was more successful at it.
China has no idea how large or small their economy is not really because every level of government lies about it. China has no idea how many people they have because every level of government has a reason to lie about it. China's military has a reason to lie about their strength so no idea how strong that is either.
The are of war states that if one doesn't know them selves or their enemy they will lose and china can not know itself because of self deception and to many people are falling for its own propaganda. Their likely going to throw the dice in a fight for Taiwan and losing that war would most likely lead to a civil war in china.
But China can and has come back from worse and honestly once the CCP is gone they will likely have much better fundamentals.
Germany
The world wars fundamentally broke them as a people and their currently in the process of deindustrializing with a leadership caste thats obviously self destructive, and the same kind of populist revolt that every western government has. If things go like the last cycle current enemys but a future loyal part of the american empire.
RenegadeInterrupt
Anarcho-Centrist Judeo-Satanic Imperialist
Yep. Pretty much cats' paws they can bribe, promise (and break promises to), and direct like drones with just a few honeyed words.
And yet one of them came within an inch of ending Trump's life. Then we have the ones who are willing to drive nails into trees to fuck up loggers. Add in the Dems who are in the military and would willingly rebel against Trump if they thought they coud get away with it. Finally, you have the gangbangers, cartel members, and violent criminals the Dems keep trying to protect.
Dismiss and belittle the Left's ability to undertake and support violence at your own peril.
Who would prefer to kill and loot rich democrats who do not knew how to fight then fight republicans.
Maybe we would have two USA as result,one ruled by bandits ?
They still have money and weapons which they could send to USA.
True - but ,just like Putin,they still could pay for civil war in USA.
Well,they still have money,too.And always could take polish gold for that !
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
Criminals make lousy soldiers. Even more paramilitary-like major criminal groups, like cartels, tend to make mediocre soldiers at best.
Street gants tend to have utterly wretched psychology for actual warfare. Their lifestyle is largely based around preying on the helpless.
DarthOne
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Doesn't mean they can't still be dangerous. Just not as dangerous as an actual soldier.
stephen the barbarian
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the concern that should be at the forefront is that they may turn around and shoot at the liberals instead.
DarthOne
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Oh they will. After they’re done shooting at us and all they have left to try and stop them are the liberals.
The problem for the left is quite simply this
The left is essentially composed of a bunch of city states sprinkled through out the country, the right has a continuous internal land mass. The right during a fight can have a unfied command structure the left will have a split one just by geography. Then you get into the fact that the right controls much of the resources and food supplies and can cut the left off from those and that's before you get into the fact that left has a notorious habit of infighting that was brought up while the right wingers have a tendency to be more unified during civil wars and often punch above their weight.
And the worst problem for america's left in a civil war is this.
Absolutely no country in the world will offer american rightwingers alsylum, their only choice in a long term war is win or die they have no where else to do. For left wingers their fellow allied regiemes would gleefully give them sanctuary so they have the option of escape.
The essential problem for the left with all of these issues is that in any civil conflict they have to win and win fast with in the year because quite simply put the longer any conflict goes on the worse it would go for them.
Cherico, we've go over this before, and the fact is that much of that red blob is at the mercy of a very blue and very progressive Colorado government simply not letting much water go down stream, and the nuke units stationed in CO, as well as NORAD's CiC capabilities, and Colorado's own ability to feed itself and produce it's own refined petro products. CO doesn't have the vulnerabilities many other blue states do.The problem for the left is quite simply this
The left is essentially composed of a bunch of city states sprinkled through out the country, the right has a continuous internal land mass. The right during a fight can have a unfied command structure the left will have a split one just by geography. Then you get into the fact that the right controls much of the resources and food supplies and can cut the left off from those and that's before you get into the fact that left has a notorious habit of infighting that was brought up while the right wingers have a tendency to be more unified during civil wars and often punch above their weight.
And the worst problem for america's left in a civil war is this.
Absolutely no country in the world will offer american rightwingers alsylum, their only choice in a long term war is win or die they have no where else to do. For left wingers their fellow allied regiemes would gleefully give them sanctuary so they have the option of escape.
The essential problem for the left with all of these issues is that in any civil conflict they have to win and win fast with in the year because quite simply put the longer any conflict goes on the worse it would go for them.
Those blue counties in CO are the ones where a massive amount of the western US's watershed headwater reside.
And this isn't even getting into the fact blue areas control most of the US's import/export harbors and many military sites, as well as the power generation sites, and control many of the most important geographic choke points and production centers.
Also, you forget the blue areas will have much more foreign support and the ability to bring in foreign support, compared to red areas, which effectively only have the Gulf Coast to use for import/export operations or reinforcements from outside.
Your take on the situation in the event of a civil conflict in the US is too simplistic, and acts like outside help for the Dems isn't likely to happen, when we both know a civil conflict would see the Dems bring in foreign help and get more foreign support, than the red areas would.
strunkenwhite
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Unless someone is prepared to make the case that civil war will be a Trump administration policy issue in the coming 4 years, please keep that topic out of this thread.
Trump says China tariffs will drop ‘substantially – but it won’t be zero’
US president says tariffs on imported goods will come down from 145% rate but insists ‘we’re doing fine with China’
www.theguardian.com
strunkenwhite
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Watching a random conservationist video, I heard a soundbite that alarmed me as a big fan of our national parks: the current administration is proposing to open up over half of currently protected national forests to logging, including old growth.
You can never trust anything the commies say. Personally I'd be fine with treating China like North Korea.Trump says China tariffs will drop ‘substantially – but it won’t be zero’
US president says tariffs on imported goods will come down from 145% rate but insists ‘we’re doing fine with China’
Same, but it seems he trusts them
## [Guardian:](<Stock markets rise as Trump backtracks on high China tariffs and firing Fed chair>) Stock markets rise as Trump backtracks on high China tariffs and firing Fed chair
>>> Stock markets have risen around the world after Donald Trump said his tariffs on China would come down "substantially" and he had "no intention" of firing the chair of the US central bank, Jay Powell.
Weeks of tough talk on trade from White House officials have rattled investors and Trump now appears to be softening his tone. The president told reporters in Washington on Tuesday he planned to be "very nice" to China in trade talks and that tariffs could drop in both countries if they could reach a deal, adding: "It will come down substantially, but it won't be zero."
Overnight in Asia, Japan's Nikkei rose by nearly 2%, Hong Kong's Hang Seng was up 2.4% and the South Korean Kospi gained 1.6%.
Meanwhile, US stocks opened on a high Wednesday morning, with the Dow rallying over 800 points, and the Nasdaq Composite up over 3%.
On Wednesday, the US treasury secretary, Scott Bessent, also took a softer, optimistic tone on China in remarks delivered at the Institute of International Finance in Washington DC, saying that China "knows it needs to change".
"If China is serious on less dependence on export-led manufacturing growth and rebalancing toward a domestic economy … let's rebalance together," Bessent said. "This is an incredible opportunity."
Bessent told investors in a private meeting on Tuesday that he expects a "de-escalation" of the trade war between China and the US in the "very near future".
Investor confidence also grew after Trump told reporters he would not fire Powell, the chair of the US Federal Reserve, reversing the previous day's losses triggered by the president calling the central bank boss a "major loser".
Seems like he wants to trade with China instead kf trade war with them
>>> Stock markets have risen around the world after Donald Trump said his tariffs on China would come down "substantially" and he had "no intention" of firing the chair of the US central bank, Jay Powell.
Weeks of tough talk on trade from White House officials have rattled investors and Trump now appears to be softening his tone. The president told reporters in Washington on Tuesday he planned to be "very nice" to China in trade talks and that tariffs could drop in both countries if they could reach a deal, adding: "It will come down substantially, but it won't be zero."
Overnight in Asia, Japan's Nikkei rose by nearly 2%, Hong Kong's Hang Seng was up 2.4% and the South Korean Kospi gained 1.6%.
Meanwhile, US stocks opened on a high Wednesday morning, with the Dow rallying over 800 points, and the Nasdaq Composite up over 3%.
On Wednesday, the US treasury secretary, Scott Bessent, also took a softer, optimistic tone on China in remarks delivered at the Institute of International Finance in Washington DC, saying that China "knows it needs to change".
"If China is serious on less dependence on export-led manufacturing growth and rebalancing toward a domestic economy … let's rebalance together," Bessent said. "This is an incredible opportunity."
Bessent told investors in a private meeting on Tuesday that he expects a "de-escalation" of the trade war between China and the US in the "very near future".
Investor confidence also grew after Trump told reporters he would not fire Powell, the chair of the US Federal Reserve, reversing the previous day's losses triggered by the president calling the central bank boss a "major loser".
Seems like he wants to trade with China instead kf trade war with them