Pocky Balboa
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Leftoids are prone to delusions.What you're describing never happened.
Leftoids are prone to delusions.What you're describing never happened.
Leftoids are prone to delusions.
Teddy "Progressive Party" Roosevelt was on the right?Never mind that fucking protectionism itself is an old-school center-left ideology that found its way to the American right after Teddy Roosevelt went "Hey, in the hands of people who aren't idiots, this might actually work" and adopted it
What Progressive means to you and what the name of the party mean are two different things.Teddy "Progressive Party" Roosevelt was on the right?
It's true that words can change political meaning over the course of a century, and some organizations just have misleading names in the first place. But do you agree with him that Theodore Roosevelt was more right than left for his time?What Progressive means to you and what the name of the party mean are two different things.
I mean it's objectively wrong because he wanted to lower tariffs and lesson protectionism practices.It's true that words can change political meaning over the course of a century, and some organizations just have misleading names in the first place. But do you agree with him that Theodore Roosevelt was more right than left for his time?
I agree with the fact you cite but it seems a little too narrowly focused for the conclusion. But more importantly, I'm confused that The Immortal Watch Dog "liked" it. Wait, what is the "it" that is objectively wrong?I mean it's objectively wrong because he wanted to lower tariffs and lesson protectionism practices.
Teddy Roosevelt effectively fused bits of left and right as a consummate pragmatist. His worldview was “America fuck yeah” and whatever served the Republic’s glory was good enough for him.
Couple that with a healthy love of the environment, and you had one of America’s greatest presidents. I think the modern United States could do with somebody like that again.
What you're describing never happened.
Couple that with a healthy love of the environment, and you had one of America's greatest presidents. I think the modern United States could do with somebody like that again.
No, those thousands of hours of video "evidence." Only show honest citizens exercising their first amendment rights while the FBI and other rogue agencies guilty of domestic terrorism and treason either murder them or frame them for frimes.It did though. There's thousands of hours of video evidence. It was very much an event that occured.
The only... I don't know "saving grace" of it all was that it clearly was planned or organized, at least in any large scale. Trump told his people to go to the Capitol, and they did. They just didn't really go there with a plan.
If they weren't there to disrupt the confirmation of the election, what were they there for? They certainly picked a convenient time...
No, those thousands of hours of video "evidence." Only show honest citizens exercising their first amendment rights while the FBI and other rogue agencies guilty of domestic terrorism and treason either murder them or frame them for frimes.
No the parties and their media complexes are only interested in extremes. This is objectively not true of the masses themselves.The people are only interested in extremes. A centrist conservative becomes a "RINO" and basically just bad as a dirty liberal. A centrist liberal becomes "literally a nazi" or accused of being a red hat or some dumb shit.
No the parties and their media complexes are only interested in extremes. This is objectively not true of the masses themselves.
I’m not too familiar with the build up to Teddy’s election. As I understand, the issue was less ideological and more grasping robber barons buggering everything up (as ever, greed destroys itself).Pragmatic governments tend to come after idealists have shit the bed.
"It" being that Teddy brought protectionism to the right. Which he... never did.I agree with the fact you cite but it seems a little too narrowly focused for the conclusion. But more importantly, I'm confused that The Immortal Watch Dog "liked" it. Wait, what is the "it" that is objectively wrong?
I generally agree. I have a collection of both conservative and liberal beliefs, I support the military (generally considered conservative), gun rights, border security and belief in harsh penalties for murderers, rapists and child molesters. I also believe that government services such as medicaire and tuition-free college are not that unreasonable an ask (we already have police departments and fire departments for example, which is a form of socialism-lite). I condemn both the 25 deaths and hundreds of millions in property damage incurred by the BLM riots, but I empathize with and understand their frustrations. Same with the J6 rioters, I condemn the people they got killed and the damage that was caused, but I empathize with and understand their frustrations. I will never understand how people can be so frothingly rabid and partisan. From the DPRK/Kim regime and PRC simp leftards to the right-wing #NAFO Azerbaijan/Turkey simps as a few examples, I cannot understand people who let political ideologies consume their identity, they're just as bad as the far-left Trans-Rights-Activist LGBTQ that put rainbow shit all over everything or have those asinine bumper stickers and the "I'm triggering the libtards" 100% Trump sycophant cultists. As someone pointed out earlier, a Teddy-style Bull-Moose Party comeback would fix soooo many problems in America's political climate. How do you feel about a blanket ban on the mentally ill being able to obtain guns (legally) and keep them for defense, by the way?Yes... but the parties are made up of people and require the support of people to continue to do their thing. The fact that there are essentially NO centrists in government would seem to imply that the masses very much are interested in extremes. From a personal perspective, it's somewhat infuriating because I AM generally somewhat centrist... left-leaning centrist... which leads to conservatives thinking i'm a crazy liberal extremist, and liberals thinking i'm a MAGA Trump conservative extremist.
Moderates supposedly exist in droves, but hell if I can find any.
My positions just piss everyone off.
I want Federal gun control that limits what people can have and enforce robust background checks and red flag laws while also still allowing people to obtain guns and keep them for defense. Liberals see that as being a gun nut, conservatives see that as me trying their guns.
I want abortion to be legal and completely up the woman, within a reasonable timeframe. To liberals, i'm an evil conservative trying to regulate women's bodies. To conservatives, i'm killing babies.
I want more money put into the southern border, shoring up border fences where necessary as well as massively increasing the amount of social work/legal representation in order to move asylum requests through the system much faster so we can process people in legally while also making the process to enter legally much more streamlined and easier to do legally. Everyone hates me.
The more time goes by, the more I’m convinced this is exactly what America needs. Now imagine modern Bull-Moose politics headed by someone with at least half the charisma of Teddy himself.a Teddy-style Bull-Moose Party comeback would fix soooo many problems in America's political climate.
n-no?which is a form of socialism-lite
Yes. The post office, police departments, public libraries, the military, etc. all examples of social programs. It's not full-blown socialism and I'm not saying it is, by the way.n-no?