United States Trump v Biden 2, electric boogaloo
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Terthna
Professional Lurker
Yeah, his downright insane religious views are what ultimately turned me away from him as well.
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
Don't underestimate cuckservatives and RINOs.
Their in the process of slowly being purged, their era is coming to an end.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
They're irrelevant.
What is relevant, is how many people will have the will to actually act, and do something meaningful about this catastrophe.
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
If Trump ends up pulling a Grover then I want him to identify as a female lesbian Indian so he can also claim to be the first lesbian female minority president. The shit show that'd cause would be glorious.
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Be fun watching Leftists and their corporate-media allies twist themselves into pretzels to smear
Bear Ribs
Well-known member
They'd just declare that wasn't a real transition and didn't count, the same way SB reacts if they think somebody wasn't serious when they put pronouns in their bio.Be fun watching Leftists and their corporate-media allies twist themselves into pretzels to smearOrange Mansorry, Orange Woman for transitioning.
Bear Ribs
Well-known member
Pence just announced he's running as well.
www.businessinsider.com
Mike Pence just officially filed to run for president in 2024, challenging Trump after dramatic January 6 fallout
Two other Republican presidential candidates are announcing a run this week. They're entering a crowded race to defeat Trump.
www.businessinsider.com
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
It'll be fascinating to see someone get outperformed by Jeb!Pence just announced he's running as well.
Mike Pence just officially filed to run for president in 2024, challenging Trump after dramatic January 6 fallout
Two other Republican presidential candidates are announcing a run this week. They're entering a crowded race to defeat Trump.
Blasterbot
Well-known member
pence is just going to run to try and torpedo trump. he is going to do what he can to paint the trump admin as a disaster. still might work.
See... if that were true he wouldn't run and instead he'd sit out of it and keep his mouth shut. All Pence does is split up the anti-Trump vote preventing a single strong counter-Trump candidate from emerging.
No, what's he's actually doing is HELPING Trump win the primary in the expectation that Trump would lose to Biden in a rematch, and preventing deSantis from building up a strong coalition to be able to challenge Trump.
Blasterbot
Well-known member
the effect he has and what he believes he can do are 2 different things. I do agree that the more people who run the more the anybody but trump vote splits is pretty consistent in the polls.
Bigking321
Well-known member
He will of course leave the primaries and throw whatever support he has behind DeSantis in exchange for a position somewhere.
TyrantTriumphant
Well-known member
And you have what proof of this? Or is this just some more "DeSantis is secretly a RINO" nonsense.
Bigking321
Well-known member
That's just a fairly common political tactic. Happens all the time.
Look at the dem one from 2020. Like three or four of them got positions. Harris is the vp.
Pretty standard for people that don't really have a real chance.
And I very much doubt that a establishment guy like Pence would throw his support to Trump after all the backstabbing.
TyrantTriumphant
Well-known member
So just speculation. And while we both know that Pence doesn't have a chance in hell, Pence may be stupid enough to believe otherwise.
And keep in mind a lot of the establishment isn't any more fond of DeSantis than they are of Trump, plenty of them have been whining about how DeSantis needs to stop going after Disney and other leftist corporations.
Sure, some of the establishment prefer DeSantis to Trump, but some other ones also prefer Trump to DeSantis. The establishment is not a monolith despite what some may believe.
No.
He exists in the race to hinder deSantis and empower Trump.
You need to understand the globalist establishment is terrified of deSantis, moreso than they are of Trump, for a few reasons. The first is that deSantis has a proven record as governor and has shown time and again he's willing to go against the establishment sacred cows, like Disney, and has also shown he can win. Further, he's surrounded himself with competent people which will enable him to build a cabinet that actually reflects and enforces his policies if he became President. Further they're not sure they can beat deSantis in the general election. He doesn't have the negatives that Trump did (and for those saying, "just let the mainstream media have at him and he will, you need to go look at the negatives for other recent Republican presidents whom the media gave the same treatment to. Also consider Hillary Clinton who had equal if not greater negatives than Trump DESPITE a fawning media. Candidate personality and history matters A LOT, the media can only do so much.) and they will have a much more difficult time rallying the people needed to fortify an election against deSantis.
Meanwhile Trump, they're sure they can beat him in the general. He still has those negatives and they can rally the same people and "threat to Democracy" narrative against him to enable election fortification in a way they can't against deSantis.
Basically, the globalist establishment, if they cannot have one of their own as the Republican candidate (which at this point they cannot, Republican primary voters have gotten too canny and too burned by the past) would rather have Trump because they believe he cannot beat Biden and even if he did have a chance, they believe they can fortify things to counter him because there's enough of a panic and emotional response against him to motivate people.
Now, they may be wrong. After all, that was similar to their logic in 2016 and why they enabled Trump over other Republicans and we saw how that turned out. But that's the actual gamble going on by the Globalists.