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Blasterbot said:
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Live updates: Haley turns to South Carolina after Trump's New Hampshire win

Donald Trump has won the New Hampshire Republican primary, while President Joe Biden prevailed on the Democratic side as a write-in candidate. Nikki Haley, says the race is far from over.
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Trump 54 to Haley 43 more than a 10 point spread.

Considering her massive investment into the state and how this was gonna be a bad one for Trump while we also had people coming out of the primary openly saying they were dems voted Haley and are going to be voting Biden in the general? She should drop out now. Also Republicans need to shift to closed primaries/caucuses in response to this.
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Predict the percentage odds Haley drops out before SC ?
 
Bacle said:
I think it is worth putting a cooling off period on switching parties and voting in primaries, in order to curb intending to vote against that party in the general while sabotaging it in the primary.

However people who are independents should have the option of voting in one primary or the other, but not both.
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Nah. after this sort of abuse of the system and people's good will? can't be blamed for shifting to registered republicans only. if people want to say they are independents that is fine. but then they don't get a say in the internal republican primaries.
 
Blasterbot said:
Nah. after this sort of abuse of the system and people's good will? can't be blamed for shifting to registered republicans only. if people want to say they are independents that is fine. but then they don't get a say in the internal republican primaries.
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Then they will just vote in the Dem primaries, because the Dems won't make the same move, and will allow independents to vote in their primary, despite superdelegates effectively nullifying the vote of most of the Dem primary system anyway.

So the GOP would just lose even more independent votes, while independents would still be allowed to participate in the farce of the Dem primary.

A solution to prevent abuse of this sort of tactic in GOP primaries should not gift-wrap more general election votes for the Dems.
 
Bacle said:
Then they will just vote in the Dem primaries, because the Dems won't make the same move, and will allow independents to vote in their primary, despite superdelegates effectively nullifying the vote of most of the Dem primary system anyway.

So the GOP would just lose even more independent votes, while independents would still be allowed to participate in the farce of the Dem primary.

A solution to prevent abuse of this sort of tactic in GOP primaries should not gift-wrap more general election votes for the Dems.
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then name a better system that will prevent fortification. because if you leave Independents free to come in to primaries like this you will find many unregistered Dems are willing to do their part to prevent the rise of hitler. Even if it means completely un democratic or anti-liberal acts.
 
Blasterbot said:
then name a better system that will prevent fortification. because if you leave Independents free to come in to primaries like this you will find many unregistered Dems are willing to do their part to prevent the rise of hitler. Even if it means completely un democratic or anti-liberal acts.
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Colorado has it in place already.

During primary season Registered Independents get ballots from both parties mailed to them, or a ballot with both primaries on it, but can only vote for/in one party's primary, and is instructed to toss out the ballot for the party they are not voting in the primary for if they get both as separate ballots.

The ballot that is voted on is return to one of the drop-off mailboxes or just mailed back in normally, though for some elections like the general and midterms and important municipal elections, actual polling stations are opened up for in-person voting.
 
Bacle said:
Then they will just vote in the Dem primaries, because the Dems won't make the same move, and will allow independents to vote in their primary, despite superdelegates effectively nullifying the vote of most of the Dem primary system anyway.

So the GOP would just lose even more independent votes, while independents would still be allowed to participate in the farce of the Dem primary.

A solution to prevent abuse of this sort of tactic in GOP primaries should not gift-wrap more general election votes for the Dems.
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... you seem to be under the impression that an independent who voted in the democrat primary HAS to vote Democrat on the real election.
 
mrttao said:
... you seem to be under the impression that an independent who voted in the democrat primary HAS to vote Democrat on the real election.
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As shown by the "independents" voting Haley that is not the case.

Bacle said:
Colorado has it in place already.

During primary season Registered Independents get ballots from both parties mailed to them, or a ballot with both primaries on it, but can only vote for/in one party's primary, and is instructed to toss out the ballot for the party they are not voting in the primary for if they get both as separate ballots.

The ballot that is voted on is return to one of the drop-off mailboxes or just mailed back in normally, though for some elections like the general and midterms and important municipal elections, actual polling stations are opened up for in-person voting.
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Ah yes. mass mail in voting sent to every independent to pretty please only vote in one primary. that will solve dems claiming to be independent in registration to vote in the other parties primaries. wait no it doesn't.
 
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Terthna said:
Depending how much she's getting paid, she may never drop out; she may even end up running as an independent in the general to give the establishment uniparty Republicans an excuse to not support Trump.
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That's basically what I was getting at. She's being paid a lot to run.
 
49ersfootball said:
Everyone: Please give my cousin @Sergeant Foley a moment of silence as FL Governor Ron DeSantis (R) officially drops out of the 2024 GOP Presidential nomination contest & endorsed former President Donald Trump.

Will DeSantis make a comeback in 2028 & win the Presidency?
A.) YES
B.) NO
C.) TBD

DeSantis officially a lame-duck as his Governorship will end on January 5th, 2027 due to being prevented from succeeding himself for 3rd consecutive term due to term limits.
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Funny thing is Churchill never used this quote at all.
 

Three years later and there is still no mention of pardons for January 6th political prisoners on Donald Trump's campaign website.
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sadness.

I am still pissed that trump didn't pardon them on the way out. He did make a bunch of pardons. just not for them.

This is why I was favoring desantis. since desantis was actually effective in fighting the liberals. trump just reveals them.
I will still vote for him. at the very least it will help reveal another round of voter fraud
 
Blasterbot said:
Pretty sure he said he would pardon at least the ones who weren't violent in speeches.
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... none of them were violent.
one protester was shot dead by the police
one tased himself thought his pocket and died
and a cop had his 5th heart attack that year and died.

aside from that it was an actual peaceful protest. unlike the leftists.
unless you consider stealing pelosi' podium to be violence
 
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