What If? Which of these ships can survive the longest in the Star Wars Galaxy

Agent23 said:
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This is the ICS book that has the 200 gigaton turbolaser, it covers the PT, not legends, that makes it canon.
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Nope. Aside from the fact that that book was written by Curtis Saxton entirely to win vs. debates (There was an email leak that revealed he was collaborating with Mike Wong and a few other big-name Wars debaters to get as large of numbers as he could), it's not on the canon list.


When one looks at the list,

The Clone Wars ICS is listed as Legends, where it belongs. Amusingly, Rebels is actually much higher canon than the ICS now and those anemic "less than a modern grenade" blasts override its Gigatons.
 
Bear Ribs said:
Nope. Aside from the fact that that book was written by Curtis Saxton entirely to win vs. debates (There was an email leak that revealed he was collaborating with Mike Wong and a few other big-name Wars debaters to get as large of numbers as he could), it's not on the canon list.


When one looks at the list,

The Clone Wars ICS is listed as Legends, where it belongs. Amusingly, Rebels is actually much higher canon than the ICS now and those anemic "less than a modern grenade" blasts override its Gigatons.
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Aaand the top 2 refs are:

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As such any and all officially published comentaries for those at the time they appeared are supposed to be canon.
 
Agent23 said:
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This is the ICS book that has the 200 gigaton turbolaser, it covers the PT, not legends, that makes it canon.
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No, it is not canon, because it contradicts the movies. Also, that book was written by Curtis Saxon, who was a VS debater and an accomplice of Wong during the big Star Trek vs Star Wars debate. He literally used the opportunity of writing the book to win the VS debate. Book has literally no relation to either the movies or the people who wrote the movies (scriptwriters and so on).

That is like me being commissioned to write a tech manual for Imperium of Man, and writing that it has access to a literal fleet of Von Neumann starships with black hole projectors - despite actual canon never showing any of that.

Lord Sovereign said:
Just to add my thoughts, as someone who adored Spacebattleship Yamato 2199, this is a touch of a stomp. You have one of the most formidable warships in the multi-verse on your side, as this thing can not only take ludicrous amounts of punishment, it has more firepower than any of the Death Stars.
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Yeah, Empire has literally nothing that can deal with Yamato.
 
Lord Sovereign said:
Just to add my thoughts, as someone who adored Spacebattleship Yamato 2199, this is a touch of a stomp. You have one of the most formidable warships in the multi-verse on your side, as this thing can not only take ludicrous amounts of punishment, it has more firepower than any of the Death Stars.
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While Yamato is incredibly tough for her setting and packs a wallop with her WMG she is still a late 30s superbattleship which was sunk by aircraft (at least 11 torpedos and 6 bombs). When she went down IRL a magazine went "BOOM!" and the resulting mushroom cloud was observed from about 100 miles away.

Compared to everything else on the list she's made out wet tissue paper and pure explodium. She's also tiny.
 
The Whispering Monk said:
Not as tiny as the White Star...which I don't think anyone's mentioned yet.
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The White Star is bigger according to some online sources ... although it's hard to find good numbers because SciFi writers have no sense of scale and fandom includes a lot of "dumb".

With Yamato: we know how big she is and what she's made of because the RL ship she's based on actually got built.
 
Oh it's the Legit Yamato?

That's kinda cool.... but kinda not. I was hoping it would scale and still be of superior size. 😞

In this case I hope ICS calcs are permitted because I wanted 180 inch space guns. If not allowed, the fleet deserves its noble but fiery death.
 
bintananth said:
While Yamato is incredibly tough for her setting and packs a wallop with her WMG she is still a late 30s superbattleship which was sunk by aircraft (at least 11 torpedos and 6 bombs). When she went down IRL a magazine went "BOOM!" and the resulting mushroom cloud was observed from about 100 miles away.

Compared to everything else on the list she's made out wet tissue paper and pure explodium. She's also tiny.
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...err...what?

Yamato's wreck was massively overhauled before launch to the point where she's nearly a different ship altogether. And given that her maiden voyage was essentially twenty-six episodes of the Gamillas Imperial Astrofleet throwing everything they had at her and still not killing her, she's made of a shit ton sterner stuff than what you're thinking.

Seriously, boys. Yamato took punishment no Enterprise model could withstand.
 
Lord Sovereign said:
...err...what?

Yamato's wreck was massively overhauled before launch to the point where she's nearly a different ship altogether. And given that her maiden voyage was essentially twenty-six episodes of the Gamillas Imperial Astrofleet throwing everything they had at her and still not killing her, she's made of a shit ton sterner stuff than what you're thinking.

Seriously, boys. Yamato took punishment no Enterprise model could withstand.
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I tired watching that thing a while ago.
I can not get past the "upgraded and rebuilt WWII superdreadnaught with frigging huge artillery guns gets launched into space..." bit.
 
Aldarion said:
In short, it is less "we upgrade Yamato with new tech" and more "we build a completely new space dreadnought inside Yamato's wreck to hide the endeavour from Gamillan sensors".
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Yeah, that whole premise was kinda silly and I am skeptical of the effects of forcing a spaceship to conform to the shape of a frigging WWII battleship.
 
bintananth said:
While Yamato is incredibly tough for her setting and packs a wallop with her WMG she is still a late 30s superbattleship which was sunk by aircraft (at least 11 torpedos and 6 bombs). When she went down IRL a magazine went "BOOM!" and the resulting mushroom cloud was observed from about 100 miles away.

Compared to everything else on the list she's made out wet tissue paper and pure explodium. She's also tiny.
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Not in 2199 she wasn't. They mentioned briefly in the first episode that she had only been disguised as an old shipwreck while she was being finished. She also has a shield and a massive gun based on alien technology that was supposed to help them make an FTL drive. Her shields and weapons allow her to take on a very large Gamilas fleet by itself and make it through. She also has fighters, and while they seem to use kinetic weapons, if TIEs lack shields they'd probably still be effective against them.

I'll be damned if I can find just a clip of the battle, but this AMV has some shots from it.

 
Captain X said:
Not in 2199 she wasn't. They mentioned briefly in the first episode that she had only been disguised as an old shipwreck while she was being finished. She also has a shield and a massive gun based on alien technology that was supposed to help them make an FTL drive. Her shields and weapons allow her to take on a very large Gamilas fleet by itself and make it through. She also has fighters, and while they seem to use kinetic weapons, if TIEs lack shields they'd probably still be effective against them.

I'll be damned if I can find just a clip of the battle, but this AMV has some shots from it.

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You specified the one from the original Space Battleship Yamato/Star Blazers in the OP which, IIRC, isn't nearly as impressive.
 
Captain X said:
Not in 2199 she wasn't. They mentioned briefly in the first episode that she had only been disguised as an old shipwreck while she was being finished. She also has a shield and a massive gun based on alien technology that was supposed to help them make an FTL drive. Her shields and weapons allow her to take on a very large Gamilas fleet by itself and make it through. She also has fighters, and while they seem to use kinetic weapons, if TIEs lack shields they'd probably still be effective against them.

I'll be damned if I can find just a clip of the battle, but this AMV has some shots from it.

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You know between resurrecting a WWII battleship, even if only in spirit, to fight against overwhelming numbers of a far more industrialized enemy who is defeated by the sheer courage and skill of the crew and amazing sheer prowess of their ship itself...me thinks Japan's a bit of a sore loser over that little Pacific War kerfluffle back in the 40's. xD
 
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