"Woke" Franchises

Husky_Khan

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Not really. In most sci-fi that sort of thing is either reserved for civilizations that have ether just started rebuilding from a cataclysmic war or outlying regions/planets that haven't been fully settled or are just too poor to do that.

Generally speaking perhaps but its more of an issue of scifi scale, not the franchise being Woke. Complaining about paved roads making Starfield woke is aberrant. But it's also such a small nitpick it probably deserves to be listed in one of those hour long whining YouTube videos as reason #57 of 200 about why you don't like something.

The pic he showed me of how Starfield is utter shit for having no paved roads looks generic asf. It's going for an obvious aesthetic as well unless I'm missing something from the picture.

In Firefly, the new system was settled five hundred years ago. Or like with the Terran Confederacy's thirteen core worlds, they've been settled over a century and a half and we have no paved roads in many places. In Fallout the NCR has been around for almost a century through Fallout 2 and New Vegas and things look poopee, leaving the more problematic Bethesda stuff notwithstanding. We even saw the trope in Rebel Moon really. You could say that Tatooine might be too poor or not settled enough to have paved roads, but not even to intergalactic Crimelord Jabba's Palace? That place has been settled for millenia. And you see similar scaling problems in Halo, the Aliensverse and Mass Effect and Warhammer 40K and that's just off the top of my head.

And the reasons you brought up might explain it for some of them, or maybe most of them but the point is that its so common that "No paved roads" sounds more like whining/nitpicking then actual criticism. Anyone can whine incessantly about a thing. It's not an exceptional talent. There are a lot of reasons for it but ultimately it's a pretty common scifi trope like I said.
 

Husky_Khan

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Makes sense. There's more opportunity for established British Black actors to go to America and portray iconic African-American roles instead of African-American actors. :sneaky:
 

Husky_Khan

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British Film Institute is showcasing the James Bond films behind a screen of trigger warnings.

Euronews said:
Filmgoers are being warned about potentially offensive content ahead of new retrospective at the BFI, 'John Barry: Soundtracking Bond and Beyond', which will celebrate the work of composer John Barry.

Goldfinger (1964) and You Only Live Twice (1967) are the James Bond films selected for the first half of the event, with On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969) included later in the March program.

The event page states: "Please note that many of these films contain language, images or other content that reflect views prevalent in its time, but will cause offence today (as they did then). The titles are included here for historical, cultural or aesthetic reasons and these views are in no way endorsed by the BFI or its partners."

Oh dear...

Euronews said:
In particular, You Only Live Twice comes with an additional warning: "Contains outdated racial stereotypes."

What? What stereotypes does that 1967 classic have?



JAPANESE SECRET SERVICE NINJAS ARMED WITH ROCKET GUNS, SHURIKENS AND KATANAS ARE STORMING A SECRET SUPERVILLAIN VOLCANO BASE!!!

"I am so triggered right now." - Some Leftist SPECTRE terrorist probably.


 

ThatZenoGuy

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British Film Institute is showcasing the James Bond films behind a screen of trigger warnings.



Oh dear...



What? What stereotypes does that 1967 classic have?



JAPANESE SECRET SERVICE NINJAS ARMED WITH ROCKET GUNS, SHURIKENS AND KATANAS ARE STORMING A SECRET SUPERVILLAIN VOLCANO BASE!!!

"I am so triggered right now." - Some Leftist SPECTRE terrorist probably.



X_X They do this with a lot of game remakes if they use the original dialogue too.
People need to grow up.
 
British Film Institute is showcasing the James Bond films behind a screen of trigger warnings.



Oh dear...



What? What stereotypes does that 1967 classic have?



JAPANESE SECRET SERVICE NINJAS ARMED WITH ROCKET GUNS, SHURIKENS AND KATANAS ARE STORMING A SECRET SUPERVILLAIN VOLCANO BASE!!!

"I am so triggered right now." - Some Leftist SPECTRE terrorist probably.



That's not a stereotype... that's just awesome!
 

SoliFortissimi

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TBF, it's getting harder and harder to find genuinely good stories these days. It's not that nobody is writing any, it's that actual entertainment value has taken second seat to whether it fulfils the DEI agenda. If the ever fickle social media mob decides some story does women/minorities well, then it's shilled until the author either screws up the social agenda like what happened with Rowling, or until the fandom dies because the show sucks.

And since writers follow incentives, just like any other producer, this means studios and publishers are increasingly focusing on social agendas over actually writing entertaining stories. And in some cases, it's become a fashion to actively remove things that fans love because it's somehow treated as being antiethical to The Agenda. If, for example, some hero is masculine coded- ie a brave, physically inclined warrior, then it's become fashion to emasculate him and give a woman his role as the hero. If a story had lots of sexual fanservice, then it's become fashion to cover them up lest any men may enjoy watching beautiful women. And gods forbid if any moralistic/paragon hero exist, because their entire story will become about hating society for not according to the whims of overgrown campus activists.

And of course, it's making money. It's making money because it's genuinely popular, and because millions upon millions are showing up for mediocre films like Black Panther and Captain Marvel just because they share some base genetic traits with the protagonist. And remember what I said about following incentives? Well, the obvious corollary is that the creatives are interested in the incentives remaining, because the gravy train must continue.
 

Jaenera Targaryen

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Well, there's also this, from long before I was born.



From what I know, it pretty much doubles-down on the slapstick, although it very accurately portrays Lupin and Fujiko's 'relationship'.
 

Jaenera Targaryen

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Do you think the pendulum will ever swing back our way?

I think I read a news article the other day, about a school readopting Native American mascots in sports, before dropping the bombshell that the previous board dropped it on the basis that a Washington-based left-wing activist org had decided Native Americans had never actually lived in the area. This, despite the fact that extensive colonial records pointed to Native Americans living in the area since the 17th Century, and local Native Americans also stand by said records. Oh, and the new board that readopted the mascots also include Native Americans, who describe it as taking back their birthright from cancel culture.

I'll see if I can find it again, and link it.
 

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