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LordsFire said:
Zach, I think more highly of the US military than a lot of people you're arguing with, but even so 99.9+% is unrealistic. A lot more people will do as they're told than you might think.

Practically speaking, I'd expect at least 20% will follow orders due to a lack of consciense, courage, or both. For militaries in most other nations, I'd expect a much higher proportion than that.
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20% is unrealistically high.
Mine Kay be too low, but it is definitely not substantial enough when you include those that are willing to make sure it doesn't happen, and the amount of friendly fire that would happen.

One also has to take into account current US Military ROE. Unless fire upon they will not fire back.

The Army and Marines are the only branch worthwhile for this kinda thing anyway.
AF and Navy don't have large enough ground combatants to mobilize, and one has to take into account how stupid it would be to throw everyone out onto infantry line in any branch. Because that is how you get people to scared to act, give up when shot at. Etc etc.
Because they are back fighting force.


Taking into count Infantry and other Combat oriented MOSs it would be below 5%, and that is pushing it of the combat arms alone
 
Zachowon said:
20% is unrealistically high.
Mine Kay be too low, but it is definitely not substantial enough when you include those that are willing to make sure it doesn't happen, and the amount of friendly fire that would happen.

One also has to take into account current US Military ROE. Unless fire upon they will not fire back.

The Army and Marines are the only branch worthwhile for this kinda thing anyway.
AF and Navy don't have large enough ground combatants to mobilize, and one has to take into account how stupid it would be to throw everyone out onto infantry line in any branch. Because that is how you get people to scared to act, give up when shot at. Etc etc.
Because they are back fighting force.


Taking into count Infantry and other Combat oriented MOSs it would be below 5%, and that is pushing it of the combat arms alone
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Zach, the ugly truth is they are not going to push things with force of arms, because they know it would cross red lines that many in armed forces still hold to.

What they will do is use corpo and banking groups to effectively force the same mandates through, via channels that are not officially governmental, and not as constrained by Constitutional limits.

Also if you think NG troops won't fire on people who are not firing back on behest of what amount to corpo overlords co-otping state power, you should read up on the Ludlow Massacre:
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Not only that but ROE doesn't really mean anything. Ok they won't open fire, only return it. That means very little. Still lets them set up martial law and roadblocks and all sorts of stuff. You should know better than most that actually shooting is the least of the worries here. The point is to have a presence and keep people from assembling and keep compliance with lock downs and so on and so forth.
 
And how many of those is on the level you seem to be thinking? How many if those is them declaring Martial Law and enforcing a very large population to stay?

Wanna know something? The day that happens, I will put my money where my mouth is.
Until then, we have small instances in history.

Do you know how many troops would willingly be deployed on US soil these days?
Do you know how many would be used? Compared to the older days, there are to many roads and to many ways people can leave a place. Road blocks are useless in majority of southern states because of Terrain.
Then you have to take into effect, the moral.
How easy it woul be to keep said manpower up. Because plenty would do it until they get out, then get out.

One also has to realize using federal troops can get any president in deep shit.
If Biden or Harris tried to martial law, you have spelt the end of the world. Civil War would ensue.

The point being.

If the Mikitary mandated a non FDA approved Anthrax shot which back then seemed to be such a huge scare factor then COVID one.
Because it put ACTUAL Anthrax inside of you and you have to get a series, like COVID, and still get Boosters for it.

Yet the second people see a non FDA approved COVID vax. 3vergone thinks is is the end of the world and the military are going to turn robocop
 
Zachowon said:
And how many of those is on the level you seem to be thinking? How many if those is them declaring Martial Law and enforcing a very large population to stay?

Wanna know something? The day that happens, I will put my money where my mouth is.
Until then, we have small instances in history.

Do you know how many troops would willingly be deployed on US soil these days?
Do you know how many would be used? Compared to the older days, there are to many roads and to many ways people can leave a place. Road blocks are useless in majority of southern states because of Terrain.
Then you have to take into effect, the moral.
How easy it woul be to keep said manpower up. Because plenty would do it until they get out, then get out.

One also has to realize using federal troops can get any president in deep shit.
If Biden or Harris tried to martial law, you have spelt the end of the world. Civil War would ensue.

The point being.

If the Mikitary mandated a non FDA approved Anthrax shot which back then seemed to be such a huge scare factor then COVID one.
Because it put ACTUAL Anthrax inside of you and you have to get a series, like COVID, and still get Boosters for it.

Yet the second people see a non FDA approved COVID vax. 3vergone thinks is is the end of the world and the military are going to turn robocop
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Less Robo-cop, more willing Clone Trooper ala Crosshair.

You would be one of those poor fighters under the command of people like Saw and Cham, thinking the clones are there to help and that you are serving a righteous cause, until they get orders that say otherwise from the new powers that be to treat you as insurgents.
 
Bacle said:
Less Robo-cop, more willing Clone Trooper ala Crosshair.

You would be one of those poor fighters under the command of people like Saw and Cham, thinking the clones are there to help and that you are serving a righteous cause, until they get orders that say otherwise from the new powers that be to treat you as insurgents.
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Bacle.
I wouldn't be, because I actually realize when things go to far.
 
If the military would be divided over being deployed on home soil, how many Tommy Teabaggers will end up creating a future resistance movement?
 
On one hand I think Zachowon is too naive and has too much of a idealistic view of his own place in the Army and the state of it. On the other it gives me some hope that there are soldiers that pure, because at least when he is told to start rounding up civilians he will likely be one of the predicted massive wave of defectors making life hell for the tyrants.
 

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Getting infected is a maybe, getting jabbed puts the bad stuff right into your blood for certain.
 
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