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The Immortal Watch Dog

The Immortal Watch Dog

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willdelve4beer said:
Sorry, but unless you personally have recently run for and won office, 'people like' you haven't won crap. What has happened is that some politicos have worked out a new branding strategy, turning your anger into reliable funding, primary votes, and social media clickbait. Of the three, it is the first that they really care about.

Do you think Gaetz, for example, gives a crap about, or has anything remotely approaching a plan to address, the budget deficit that might be enacted at some point before the Boomers finish draining the so-called social security fund? Fuck no. But he can get on social media with his shit-stirring, and thereby guarantee a constant flow of small donor payments to his various associated PACs and orgs. As a plus, he is now viewed as important enough to actually buy off, by the lobbying firms in DC, which is another nice income stream. This isn't some grand cause to him, it is a business model. That folks can not pick up on something so bloody obvious is astounding.

The goals you claim to want - jailing sizable portions of the feds (and associated beltway bandit contractors), disbanding ivy league and ivy-league wannabe colleges, etc? Not only are they never going to happen, but your so-called leaders and fighters are never even going to make a serious attempt at achieving any of them. Why? Because they know well enough that trying is pointless.

Want to make a realistic impact on colleges? Get the feds out of student loans, and forces colleges to issue loans directly to their enrollees/customers. Watch what happens to pricing, indoctrination, and course offerings then.

Want to cut back on feds doing heinous and illegal crap? Start sunsetting regulations, and keep Congress from reinstating Chevron via legislation. Will never happen, because Chevron and administrative state delegation is the best thing to ever happen to Congress.

Want to sort out the budget and save social security for granma? Start reducing all non-interest outlays (spending). Not by massive amounts, just 1% a year, off the prior year top line, no inflation adjustment for anything, anywhere. In a decade we'll back to those horrifying austerity years of the Bush-Clinton budgets. I seem to recall a distinct lack of hordes of geezers dying in the streets back then.

Is anyone in DC putting those into bills and trying to push them through Congress? Not that I've heard. Why? Because they don't actually care about that. They're not in DC to save you, or America, or much of anything else. They're in DC for one or two pet causes, from a decade or more ago when they first got interested in politics, and which they have often long since forgotten about. They are in DC to be in DC, to be powerful and high status, to be on TV and courted by lobbyists, to get their friends and family favors and positions. Nepotism isn't the embarassing scandal, it is the point, for most of them, most of the time.

This isn't the grand leaders of the people fighting against the evil elites - the story you've been sold. This is the slightly less favored, less-entrenched elites using you to help them secure power and privilege from those currently at the top of the shitpile.

Once they've gotten their sinecures, they'll drop you and your issues, and never look back.

Look at Trump and the courts - he had to promise to appoint Federalist Society judges in his first administration, in order to get party support. He has publicly blamed those same appointments for costing him and his elections. Think he is going to do that again? Fuck no. His entire promise to the right, on a cultural level, now boils down to: "I won't actively try to fuck you over, maybe, and by being such a huge and irresistible target, will hopefully distract those who hate you, for a little while, probably."

Economically, well, he's a protectionist idiot, just like Biden. Probably favor different industries, but the same shitty ideas are still shitty. Somewhat less likely to blow up the deficit even more trying to shower money on leftists. I give him better than even odds of trying to pull the same kind of dumbassery to push money to his supporters though. Which means, even more inflation to come.

yay

Hell, even if he wanted to move the needle on your issues, he won't be able to - he'll be a lame duck from day one, with little to no political capital, and zero way to push the other side to play ball. At best (assuming the scatter brained narcissist or his hangers on remember) he might revoke Biden's crappy executive orders. Which would be great, assuming the bureaucracy was raring to defy them and only needed presidential permission. Not exactly the case, now is it?

Our best case is 4 more years of riots and resistance, while everyone investigates anyone who was ever remotely associated with Trump for, effectively, heresy. Is that better than (Jill) Biden part 2, leftier, feebler, and less competent?

Hopefully.

But, not exactly the amazing, energetic, fundamental turnaround that you argue that the country needs.

The best advice I can give you on politics is to stop feeling and start thinking. It is of course, the last thing anyone professionally involved in politics, on either side, wants you to do. Will that mean you end up agreeing with me on everything, or even anything? Unlikely. But at least you'll be deciding for yourself, and not letting social media algorithms (yes, the right uses them too) lead you around by the nose.
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That was a deluge of superfluous nonsense that told me little more than you're blackpilled.

But thanks for wasting your time I guess?

I've argued multiple times for outright stripping government employees of the Franchise. I straight up don't think anyone but maybe one particular type of American should be allowed to vote (small business owning, middle class and upper middle class, non degreeholding , fathers. Literally no one else.) And you think I'd pin hopes on anyone currently in congress?

Gaetz is a cuck who voted to confirm a guy who called him a pedo.

Trump is a fucking New York liberal lmao.
 
Husky_Khan

Husky_Khan

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Oh Hell Yeah!

Lee Greenwood's God Bless the USA Bible has now received an official endorsement from President Donald J. Trump!



Just FYI, since there is confusion on this. Lee Greenwood, the individual who sang 'God Bless the USA' and many other famous pieces of country music, released this version of the King James Bible almost two years ago I think. It's basically a large print King James Bible with founding American documents like the US Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence contained within it as well.

They just got Trump to hawk the item. Whether he did it for any compensation, I dunno but buying this AFAIK doesn't fund the Trump Campaign or Trump personally AFAIK.

Still, they did pick the week leading up to Easter to get Trump to promote it.
 
bintananth

bintananth

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Husky_Khan said:
Oh Hell Yeah!

Lee Greenwood's God Bless the USA Bible has now received an official endorsement from President Donald J. Trump!



Just FYI, since there is confusion on this. Lee Greenwood, the individual who sang 'God Bless the USA' and many other famous pieces of country music, released this version of the King James Bible almost two years ago I think. It's basically a large print King James Bible with founding American documents like the US Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence contained within it as well.

They just got Trump to hawk the item. Whether he did it for any compensation, I dunno but buying this AFAIK doesn't fund the Trump Campaign or Trump personally AFAIK.

Still, they did pick the week leading up to Easter to get Trump to promote it.
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Um ...

The bible doesn't need any endorsements. The copy of the bible in my car is quite worn and well read.
 
bintananth

bintananth

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KilroywasNOTHere said:
While I think you're taking that scripture out of historical context your concern IS a valid one. we want to make sure we are promoting righteousness not just political power.
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What part of that scripture is wrong?

What part of you shouldn't brag and tell others about how you did what you're supposed to do is wrong?

Seriously. If you feel that you must justify your actions without being asked you "probably done fucked up". I'm guilty of this and I know it.
 
KilroywasNOTHere

KilroywasNOTHere

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bintananth said:
What part of that scripture is wrong?

What part of you shouldn't brag and tell others about how you did what you're supposed to do is wrong?

Seriously. If you feel that you must justify your actions without being asked you "probably done fucked up". I'm guilty of this and I know it.
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A. Some good deeds can't be done in total secret they do require a group effort and support to pull off.
B. We still need to evangelize.

And I'm not saying the scripture is wrong I'm saying your application can go too far.

Scriptures also say we are not to hide our faith and be lights to the world. So either we have two contradicting scriptures or our understanding and/or application of one or both is wrong.
 
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Scooby Doo said:
I feel like the New York State is absolutely zombie rabid desperate to seize Trump's assets so they can sell it and keep the money.
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New york state like a lot of states has a lot of debt and decades no generations of bad decisions means their pretty much functionally broke.

So to the left seizing his assets and selling them to cover the short fall makes sense, and then of course going after any other real or precieved enemies.

The down side of this of course is after the initial shock wears off the populists will start taking careful notes of all of this so they can apply the same tactics to the left when they gain power.
 
Jormungandr

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Scooby Doo said:
I feel like the New York State is absolutely zombie rabid desperate to seize Trump's assets so they can sell it and keep the money.
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Yeah, this is what I suspected all along. It's not just about trying to basically financially hinder him so he can't campaign, it's because the city needs his money. This was desperation mixed in with political motivation.

Also, guys? I understand that a lot of board members here are Christian, but again not helping with the optics that the site isn't a fundamentalist bolt hole that outsiders have of us. sigh
 
bintananth

bintananth

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KilroywasNOTHere said:
A. Some good deeds can't be done in total secret they do require a group effort and support to pull off.
B. We still need to evangelize.

And I'm not saying the scripture is wrong I'm saying your application can go too far.

Scriptures also so we are not to hide our faith and be lights to the world. So either we have two controdicting scriptures or our understanding and/or application of one or both is wrong.
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To answer A: If you feel that secrecy is required, it's not a "good deed".

To answer B: You do not need to evangelize.

Think for a second. If you're doing what you're supposed to do you don't need tell others about it. You want to know who does?

I'll let Chris Rock explain:



What he said about N-words also applies to pretty much every deregotory term for someone white.
 
KilroywasNOTHere

KilroywasNOTHere

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bintananth said:
To answer B: You do not need to evangelize.
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He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

that's like the 2nd most well known scripture of the gospal next to John 3:16

Edit even if you're not a traveling evangelist (many Christians were not even in the first century) we are still told to teach by example and be prepared to answer questions if asked. Hard to do that If EVERYTHING is done in secret.
 
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Bigking321

Bigking321

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Jormungandr said:
Also, guys? I understand that a lot of board members here are Christian, but again not helping with the optics that the site isn't a fundamentalist bolt hole that outsiders have of us. sigh
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Trump is helping sell a Bible with American founding documents added. It's rather topical.

You seem to take offense whenever religion or Christianity in particular are mentioned. I'm sorry about that.

But it comes up sometimes and sometimes that sparks a discussion.

On a site built on free speech it seems odd to keep saying that people are talking too much about something again.
 
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