China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Bacle

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The perpetrators are still out there. They’re still killing innocent people. When my father took the vaccine to keep his job, he became diabetic and visibly aged ten years. I was fired from my job of seven years for not taking it. A friend of mine died on a ventilator. I, along with billions of other people, was subjected to gaslighting and psychological torture. In the process of trying to warn people about what was coming, I lost friends and was banned from multiple boards and cut off from my support network, isolated and left to rot.

For me, this is deeply personal. I will make these sons of bitches pay for what they did.
I understand, I really do.

Daring to try to spread the warnings you gave cost me most of my off-line social circle that hadn't ghosted me after coming out to support Trump, and even cost me respect among my own family.

However I am also very aware no matter how angry or upset I am about this Wu Flu shit, no matter how much awareness you try to raise, most people already have their minds made up and not in the direction we'd like, and those who caused all this to happen, both the lab leak and toxic vax's, are going to get away with it.

It's no longer worth the energy or time you dedicate to this issue, because you won't get the pay back you want, and clinging to the hope you can get payback if you just post enough info...you shouldn't hurt yourself or waste your time by clinging to that idea anymore.

I want justice for what was done, but I also know justice won't be done, and no amount of effort on my part or your part, or really anyone's part at this point, will see justice done. Even Trump winning again will not do anything, because he'll never admit 'his' vax's were toxic at worst, useless at best, and he's never owned up to it, so he won't care about getting justice for you or me or anyone else who's seen through the madness.

False hope is some of the most damaging stuff in the world, don't cling to it.
 

Bacle

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All hope is false until it's rewarded.
No, there is such thing as a 'reasonable' hope, and realistic hope.

But 90% of what I've seen on this site, and of the GOP in general, is RW people selling each other false hopes for clicks, donations, and clout.

In fact, the number of times 'hope' has turned out to be 'false hope' with regards to the GOP and Trump outnumbers the times they've actually had people's hope's justified by their actions.

We can’t give up. The bastards went too far, this time. Humanity’s freedom itself is at stake.




No one will face justice for the Wu Flu or it's toxic vax's; so if trying to get justice for it equals 'humanities freedom is at stake' in your mind, you've already lost.

It's time to start putting your life and energy into something besides a futile fight for 'justice' that won't come.
 

Bacle

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Dude... chill.

Let people post what they want to post.

If you don't like it, don't read it or engage with it, but don't tell people they are wasting their time doing it. That's just kinda rude.
It's not being rude, it's being honest about the facts as they are, and what is likely to come of his efforts.

I've been sold false hope so many times; I do not want to see others harmed by more false hopes, or want to push false hopes just to be popular.

@*THASF* has put so much time and effort into this, so much of themselves, and is continuing to do so on the false hope we there will ever be 'justice' for what was done around the Wu Flu and it's vax's.

I don't want him to keep hurting himself in the long run by continuing to cling to the false hope that justice will ever be done, and am trying to gently open his eyes to the fact he's not going to get the return on his efforts he is hoping for.
 

Iconoclast

Perpetually Angry
Obozny
No, there is such thing as a 'reasonable' hope, and realistic hope.

But 90% of what I've seen on this site, and of the GOP in general, is RW people selling each other false hopes for clicks, donations, and clout.

In fact, the number of times 'hope' has turned out to be 'false hope' with regards to the GOP and Trump outnumbers the times they've actually had people's hope's justified by their actions.

No one will face justice for the Wu Flu or it's toxic vax's; so if trying to get justice for it equals 'humanities freedom is at stake' in your mind, you've already lost.

It's time to start putting your life and energy into something besides a futile fight for 'justice' that won't come.
If this is the case, if this is what people truly believe, then the government can get away with murdering us like dogs, like something out of a Franz Kafka novel, and all the liberties we take for granted were never real in the first place. That’s an indictment of the West as a whole.

People cannot possibly be content to live in a mousetrap society that can turn totalitarian and snap over our necks at the drop of a hat, while still proclaiming itself as free and democratic. That’s not right.

This isn’t even a partisan thing. We’re talking about profound violations of the social contract as we know it. We are talking about coordinated and deliberate acts of treason, racketeering, and mass murder. Our governments have, overnight, become illegitimate entities that are committing genocide against their own citizens.

We can’t afford to just lie back and take it from these sons of bitches. We can’t afford to say, “Whoops, looks like the culprits are the CIA, courts won’t do anything.”

We should be setting our sights higher. As in, every organization involved in this must be dissolved and their members arrested and charged. I don’t give a fuck how high up the chain we have to go. Some crimes are unforgivable.
 

Zachowon

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In order for anything to come of this.
Trump would have to not be the republican nominee/President.
He still boasts about the Vax
 

Bacle

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If this is the case, if this is what people truly believe, then the government can get away with murdering us like dogs, like something out of a Franz Kafka novel, and all the liberties we take for granted were never real in the first place. That’s an indictment of the West as a whole.
Yep, but it is reality to the majority of folks, and the world most of humanity lives in.

Though not like the people/nations outside 'the West' are any better, or more honest about the situation.

There are no good alternatives in this case, no escape to a more 'sane' place, just the harsh reality of how effective the lies and manipulations around the Wu Flu and it's vax's has been and continues to be.
People cannot possibly be content to live in a mousetrap society that can turn totalitarian and snap over our necks at the drop of a hat, while still proclaiming itself as free and democratic. That’s not right.
Sure they can, if they think the mousetrap is coming down on their political enemies, and not themselves, or if they are the types who do not care about liberty, only 'safety'.

It's not 'right', but it is the reality on the ground for most of society.
This isn’t even a partisan thing. We’re talking about profound violations of the social contract as we know it. We are talking about coordinated and deliberate acts of treason, racketeering, and mass murder. Our governments have, overnight, become illegitimate entities that are committing genocide against their own citizens.
Yeah, they did, and they manipulated the media and overton window enough that they hoodwinked most of humanity, and will continue to hoodwink most of humanity.

That is the reality of the situation, as much as we may hate it.
We can’t afford to just lie back and take it from these sons of bitches. We can’t afford to say, “Whoops, looks like the culprits are the CIA, courts won’t do anything.”
Unless you want to start going vigilante over this, the immunity shield on the pharma groups and DoD/CIA means the courts cannot/will do much to the people involved, even when the evidence is rather open and shut.

Believe me, I wish there was a realistic way to handle the issues via the courts, but the Dems, vax-makers, and Fauci's friends covered all their bases in making sure there is little to no recourse for the public in terms of getting justice for what was done.
We should be setting our sights higher. As in, every organization involved in this must be dissolved and their members arrested and charged. I don’t give a fuck how high up the chain we have to go. Some crimes are unforgivable.
Not realistic, is definitely false hopes, imagining leverage you/me/the Right simply doesn't have, and frankly is unhealthy to keep as a goal at this point.

Sometimes the bad guys get a win, and there is little or nothing we can do to reverse it.

And let's not pretend Trump will do any of what you want, even if he wins and gets full control of both the House and Senate.

You need to get realistic about your expectations, instead of devoting energy to a futile effort.

I am trying to be very gentle and kind in how I break this to you, because I know how much of yourself you've poured into this, and I do feel bad that we are at a point where this is the reality we all face.

I just don't have it in me to no try to open your eyes to the real state of things, and to the fact most of your efforts at this point, if justice for the Wu Flu and it's toxic vax's is your goal, are going to come to naught.
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
Yep, but it is reality to the majority of folks, and the world most of humanity lives in.

Though not like the people/nations outside 'the West' are any better, or more honest about the situation.

There are no good alternatives in this case, no escape to a more 'sane' place, just the harsh reality of how effective the lies and manipulations around the Wu Flu and it's vax's has been and continues to be.

Sure they can, if they think the mousetrap is coming down on their political enemies, and not themselves, or if they are the types who do not care about liberty, only 'safety'.

It's not 'right', but it is the reality on the ground for most of society.

Yeah, they did, and they manipulated the media and overton window enough that they hoodwinked most of humanity, and will continue to hoodwink most of humanity.

That is the reality of the situation, as much as we may hate it.

Unless you want to start going vigilante over this, the immunity shield on the pharma groups and DoD/CIA means the courts cannot/will do much to the people involved, even when the evidence is rather open and shut.

Believe me, I wish there was a realistic way to handle the issues via the courts, but the Dems, vax-makers, and Fauci's friends covered all their bases in making sure there is little to no recourse for the public in terms of getting justice for what was done.

Not realistic, is definitely false hopes, imagining leverage you/me/the Right simply doesn't have, and frankly is unhealthy to keep as a goal at this point.

Sometimes the bad guys get a win, and there is little or nothing we can do to reverse it.

And let's not pretend Trump will do any of what you want, even if he wins and gets full control of both the House and Senate.

You need to get realistic about your expectations, instead of devoting energy to a futile effort.

I am trying to be very gentle and kind in how I break this to you, because I know how much of yourself you've poured into this, and I do feel bad that we are at a point where this is the reality we all face.

I just don't have it in me to no try to open your eyes to the real state of things, and to the fact most of your efforts at this point, if justice for the Wu Flu and it's toxic vax's is your goal, are going to come to naught.
Seems to me you're just trying to convince him to be as apathetic about the issue as you are. It doesn't matter if nothing is done about it, or if nobody will listen; the obligation to speak out exists regardless, if for no other reason than the sake of one's own conscience.
 

Bacle

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Seems to me you're just trying to convince him to be as apathetic about the issue as you are. It doesn't matter if nothing is done about it, or if nobody will listen; the obligation to speak out exists regardless, if for no other reason than the sake of one's own conscience.
You mistake resignation for apathy.

You also mistake me trying to gently open his eyes to the reality of things as trying to convince him to be apathetic.

And when the 'speaking out' is mostly repetition of previous info in new forms or videos, what does that accomplish besides slight algorithm boosts for select articles or videos?

And sometimes a persons conscience tells them to try to keep others from pursuing a false hope, because just going along with the false hope usually does more damage to the person in the long run. 'Sunk Costs Fallacy' is a thing the Right is just as vulnerable to as the Left, and one of those things where some people simply don't want to understand it, because it means admitting they are wasting time and effort on something that will never bear the fruit they wish for.

@*THASF* has put so much time, effort and energy into this subject, done humanity as a species a service; I simply do not want him to be as hurt when he realizes he not going to get the justice he thinks society is due.

I've been hurt by so many false hopes, many of them pushed by people on the Right since 2016, and I want to try to spare people some of the pain I've dealt with when I came to terms with how many of the hopes I had been fed turned out false because the GOP bought it's own internal propaganda, or misjudged the US electorate.
 

Jormungandr

The Midgard Wyrm
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I understand and agree with both @Bacle and @*THASF*.

In an ideal world, everyone who participated in this genetic experimentation/abomination would be tried in the Hague (without dodgy dealings getting them off) and then lined up in front of a wall or given the noose.

Fauci in particular should be shot in the back of the head.

These cunts have murdered a large swathe of the Earth's population though either the virus itself killing off certain elements in the population (outliers like with other viruses like the flu, those with comorbidities, the old/vulnerable, et cetera) or this genetic experiment (Vax) causing healthy people to either outright drop dead, develop debilitating medical conditions, or have stillbirths and miscarriages... which are lives themselves lost because they would have been people, had that third-party element not fucking killed them before they could even breath independently away from the umbilical cord.

Worse still, these cunts convinced much of the population to act like sheep and turn on their own loved ones and friends, which is an indication and test of what they'll most definitely try again in the future in some shape or form. They know the majority of people are nothing but fucking domesticated sheep now, like the fucking Eloi.

The funny thing? Ten years ago, I'd have called myself and others batshit insane conspiracy theorists. Twenty years ago, I'd have not even considered this stuff as even a conspiracy theory possibility on the lines of "jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams", yet here we fucking are being proven right time and time again.

Unlike the domesticated sheeple, this anger of what they've done will not go away. it will not be quenched through empty apologies and arse-covering with articles like "well, no-one knew any better, so we should forget and forgive", et cetera.

Fucking no.

We're not going to forget how these utter cunts, even loved ones and friends, persecuted us for not being sheep; for not being victims to a fucking genetic and social experiment of domination, control, and culling.

They can go fuck themselves, and the people who participated in this, from virus to Vax, need to be swinging at the end of a fucking rope for their role in mankind's first artificial genetic catastrophe.
 

Bacle

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I understand and agree with both @Bacle and @*THASF*.

In an ideal world, everyone who participated in this genetic experimentation/abomination would be tried in the Hague (without dodgy dealings getting them off) and then lined up in front of a wall or given the noose.

Fauci in particular should be shot in the back of the head.

These cunts have murdered a large swathe of the Earth's population though either the virus itself killing off certain elements in the population (outliers like with other viruses like the flu, those with comorbidities, the old/vulnerable, et cetera) or this genetic experiment (Vax) causing healthy people to either outright drop dead, develop debilitating medical conditions, or have stillbirths and miscarriages... which are lives themselves lost because they would have been people, had that third-party element not fucking killed them before they could even breath independently away from the umbilical cord.

Worse still, these cunts convinced much of the population to act like sheep and turn on their own loved ones and friends, which is an indication and test of what they'll most definitely try again in the future in some shape or form. They know the majority of people are nothing but fucking domesticated sheep now, like the fucking Eloi.

The funny thing? Ten years ago, I'd have called myself and others batshit insane conspiracy theorists. Twenty years ago, I'd have not even considered this stuff as even a conspiracy theory possibility on the lines of "jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams", yet here we fucking are being proven right time and time again.

Unlike the domesticated sheeple, this anger of what they've done will not go away. it will not be quenched through empty apologies and arse-covering with articles like "well, no-one knew any better, so we should forget and forgive", et cetera.

Fucking no.

We're not going to forget how these utter cunts, even loved ones and friends, persecuted us for not being sheep; for not being victims to a fucking genetic and social experiment of domination, control, and culling.

They can go fuck themselves, and the people who participated in this, from virus to Vax, need to be swinging at the end of a fucking rope for their role in mankind's first artificial genetic catastrophe.
Yeah, even if we cannot truly get justice for what was done, NO ONE should ever forget what they did.

Remember what Fauci and friends did to the human species, remember how justice was denied, and remember the lessons from both the Wu Flu and it's vax.

Shit, the world and history should remember @*THASF* for their work and attempts to get the word out, when so many others were just echo'ing the media narratives.

Just because it will not bear the fruits he wishes, does not mean @*THASF*'s efforts are or have been any less noble or praiseworthy.

I just really am worried about him selling himself and others the false hope true justice for what was done can ever truly be achieved, and what it will do to people mentally when they have to admit no justice for what was done is ever likely to happen.

Sometimes the bad guys get a W, and there is no way to reverse it, even when the nature of it should have the majority of humanity up in arms.
 

Iconoclast

Perpetually Angry
Obozny
My ancestors went to war with the British fucking crown for the crime of slightly raising taxes. These sick motherfuckers in power today coerced families to have their infants and young children injected with lethal fucking poison, and people’s response to that is, “Oh well, nothing can be done about it, they’re too entrenched, they’re too powerful, it’s out of our hands, now, just let it go.”

That’s not America. That’s a sick fucking joke.

People have a moral obligation to resist evil of this magnitude, @Bacle. Hell, we have a moral obligation to resist evil of a far lesser magnitude than this. I swear to god, the shit that they're doing to us is like something a supervillain would do. It's like the homunculi in FMA tunneling under goddamn Amestris to make a great big transmutation circle and sacrifice an entire country. That's the level of evil we're up against.

I can't possibly be let down any more than I already have been. I wake up, every morning, legitimately bitter and angry in a way that I've never felt before in my life. I shake off the grogginess and then I snap to full awareness and it's like, "Oh, right, my government is actively trying to murder me, my family, and all my friends". You don't come back from that realization. You never settle down and feel safe and comfortable ever again.

I don't care what the ultimate outcome is. I will practice resistance from now until I'm dead, and I will always encourage others to do the same. This isn't about "hope" or any of that bullshit. This is about retribution. This is about dragging the names of those responsible through the dirt from now until the end of time.
 

Terthna

Professional Lurker
My ancestors went to war with the British fucking crown for the crime of slightly raising taxes. These sick motherfuckers in power today coerced families to have their infants and young children injected with lethal fucking poison, and people’s response to that is, “Oh well, nothing can be done about it, they’re too entrenched, they’re too powerful, it’s out of our hands, now, just let it go.”

That’s not America. That’s a sick fucking joke.

People have a moral obligation to resist evil of this magnitude, @Bacle. Hell, we have a moral obligation to resist evil of a far lesser magnitude than this. I swear to god, the shit that they're doing to us is like something a supervillain would do. It's like the homunculi in FMA tunneling under goddamn Amestris to make a great big transmutation circle and sacrifice an entire country. That's the level of evil we're up against.

I can't possibly be let down any more than I already have been. I wake up, every morning, legitimately bitter and angry in a way that I've never felt before in my life. I shake off the grogginess and then I snap to full awareness and it's like, "Oh, right, my government is actively trying to murder me, my family, and all my friends". You don't come back from that realization. You never settle down and feel safe and comfortable ever again.

I don't care what the ultimate outcome is. I will practice resistance from now until I'm dead, and I will always encourage others to do the same. This isn't about "hope" or any of that bullshit. This is about retribution. This is about dragging the names of those responsible through the dirt from now until the end of time.
If nothing else I expect that, thanks to efforts such as yours, the people responsible for all of this (if they're remembered at all) will be remembered as the evil monsters they were.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
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My ancestors went to war with the British fucking crown for the crime of slightly raising taxes. These sick motherfuckers in power today coerced families to have their infants and young children injected with lethal fucking poison, and people’s response to that is, “Oh well, nothing can be done about it, they’re too entrenched, they’re too powerful, it’s out of our hands, now, just let it go.”

That’s not America. That’s a sick fucking joke.

People have a moral obligation to resist evil of this magnitude, @Bacle. Hell, we have a moral obligation to resist evil of a far lesser magnitude than this. I swear to god, the shit that they're doing to us is like something a supervillain would do. It's like the homunculi in FMA tunneling under goddamn Amestris to make a great big transmutation circle and sacrifice an entire country. That's the level of evil we're up against.

I can't possibly be let down any more than I already have been. I wake up, every morning, legitimately bitter and angry in a way that I've never felt before in my life. I shake off the grogginess and then I snap to full awareness and it's like, "Oh, right, my government is actively trying to murder me, my family, and all my friends". You don't come back from that realization. You never settle down and feel safe and comfortable ever again.

I don't care what the ultimate outcome is. I will practice resistance from now until I'm dead, and I will always encourage others to do the same. This isn't about "hope" or any of that bullshit. This is about retribution. This is about dragging the names of those responsible through the dirt from now until the end of time.
If all this is about just continuing to drag Fauci and friends names through the mud, fine, I can understand that.

But understand, whatever the 'moral' obligation to resist and shit on these folks from now till the end of time is, doesn't change the reality the rest of the world is faced with. Additional facts and details at this point aren't going to change any minds that aren't effectively newborns or toddlers too young to remember pre-Wu Flu times.

Though your FMA reference is rather...adroit, and yeah, I know the feeling too.

Though I was more going for us being the krogan, Fauci and co being a mix of the salarians and turians, and knowing we've got a human genophage in our environment now to keep the 'plebs' numbers under control.

I mean, you think it doesn't tax me, knowing all this, and knowing how fucked it all is?

You think I'm happy that this is the situation we've found ourselves in, and that I don't also feel like most of humanity are sheep and the govs wants me dead? You think it's fun realizing all your efforts to warn people probably came to naught, or that I was fooled by Fauci till George Floyd's death cased the masks to drop?

If you want this to be about retribution and making sure no one forgets what was done, that is one thing; it's wholly another to give people the false hope/impression that info-dumps will equal justice.
 

posh-goofiness

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I think people like you, @Bacle, are exactly why no justice will come. Keep fighting, @*THASF*. The only way we get justice is by continuing to spread and remind people that they have been wronged. It's just so easy to let the system around us soothe us into complacency. It's going to be an uphill battle we're going to fight for years.
 

Bacle

When the effort is no longer profitable...
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I think people like you, @Bacle, are exactly why no justice will come. Keep fighting, @*THASF*. The only way we get justice is by continuing to spread and remind people that they have been wronged. It's just so easy to let the system around us soothe us into complacency. It's going to be an uphill battle we're going to fight for years.
...you do realize I fucking was in this thread from the start, because I was fighting the same battle, but also realized that there isn't going to be any justice coming from this, no matter how what I posted or what new details emerged. And I used to post nearly every update on the Wu Flu I could find, and have still been liking THASF's posts in here regularly; go back and check the thread, you'll see.

However, have become concerned about him not being able to be objective about how the rest of the world views what has gone on, and am/was worried that when unfortunate reality hit, he'd take it really badly.

I've been there, I know how bad that can be, and I am trying to help gently open people's eyes to the fact that no amount of posting or dragging Fauci's name through the mud is going to result in any 'justice'.

I'll also be real, without George Floyd's death happening when and how it did, the likelihood of the info we have now about the virus and it's vax would likely have stayed in the shadows and not been believed even by many here. The mask's would have only dropped on the Wu Flu and it's vax after most of the 'excess' humans were dead or infertile, if the Dems racial justice obsessions hadn't blackswanned on their depopulation/pharma RICO plans at a very early phase of the 'roll out'.
 
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posh-goofiness

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...you do realize I fucking started this thread, because I was fighting the same battle, but also realized that there isn't going to be any justice coming from this, no matter how what I posted or what new details emerged. And I used to post nearly every update on the Wu Flu I could find, and have still been liking THASF's posts in here regularly; go back and check the thread, you'll see.

However, have become concerned about him not being able to be objective about how the rest of the world views what has gone on, and am/was worried that when unfortunate reality hit, he'd take it really badly.

I've been there, I know how bad that can be, and I am trying to help gently open people's eyes to the fact that no amount of posting or dragging Fauci's name through the mud is going to result in any 'justice'.

I'll also be real, without George Floyd's death happening when and how it did, the likelihood of the info we have now about the virus and it's vax would likely have stayed in the shadows and not been believed even by many here. The mask's would have only dropped on the Wu Flu and it's vax after most of the 'excess' humans were dead or infertile, if the Dems racial justice obsessions hadn't blackswanned on their depopulation/pharma RICO plans at a very early phase of the 'roll out'.
Yes, I knew this. No, I don't think it matters. It's a moral duty to continue this work once you start it. Everything else follows from there. The spread of this information is vitally important if justice is ever to be done. You and people like you don't seem to get it though. This is a multi-generational plan being worked by the enemy. It will take the combined and sustained work of generations to oppose. It will be a very futile effort if we give up now.

Do you want justice done or do you want justice for yourself? For myself and people I've managed to convince because of @*THASF* 's thorough documentation, it's the former.

As far as your point to the George Floyd incident forcing our enemies to drop the mask prematurely- I agree completely. It was and still is a good talking point to show the disconnect between what was actually happening and what people believed about the covid restrictions.

I don't think you are wrong on a factual basis; I think that it's a matter of your resolve and convictions. I'm pretty sure anyone of us that have continued to follow this topic and spread this info have lost friends over it, possibly family, possibly a job. Fight on regardless.
 

Bacle

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Yes, I knew this. No, I don't think it matters. It's a moral duty to continue this work once you start it. Everything else follows from there. The spread of this information is vitally important if justice is ever to be done. You and people like you don't seem to get it though. This is a multi-generational plan being worked by the enemy. It will take the combined and sustained work of generations to oppose. It will be a very futile effort if we give up now.

Do you want justice done or do you want justice for yourself? For myself and people I've managed to convince because of @*THASF* 's thorough documentation, it's the former.

As far as your point to the George Floyd incident forcing our enemies to drop the mask prematurely- I agree completely. It was and still is a good talking point to show the disconnect between what was actually happening and what people believed about the covid restrictions.

I don't think you are wrong on a factual basis; I think that it's a matter of your resolve and convictions. I'm pretty sure anyone of us that have continued to follow this topic and spread this info have lost friends over it, possibly family, possibly a job. Fight on regardless.
...I don't think justice can be done for a crime of this magnitude, or to those truly responsible, I think is the difference here. I also think there are more useful avenues for THASF's focus and insight than retribution, things much healthier for his mind and for the minds of others here.

I joke about a Nuremberg 2.0 for Fauci and co, because I do feel so many deserve it for what was done, but I also know that it's highly doubtful that will ever happen. It's a meme to cope with how horrible everything around the Wu Flu and it's vax is, and how little can realistically be done about it.

At best maybe we can do something to enhance fertility via other means going forward to compensate for the lost. I think focusing on fertility enhancement is overall more helpful to humanity than vengeance or retribution for the Wu Flu and vax at this point, even if I deeply understand the desire for it over what was done with the Wu Flu and it's vax's.

I also frankly am not sure focusing on this issue in anger and a desire for retribution is healthy for THASF or anyone else, and as I said I was worried about if he could be objective about the issue given how close he is and how much time he has dedicated to it.

We do more for humanity trying to help more babies be born than focusing well deserved anger at Fauci and friends, even if vengeance/retribution against them is more than justified on both moral and legal grounds.

@*THASF* 's work can help undue the damage in medical terms, with the facts it gives that can be used to create fertility enhancers to counter the Wu Flu and vax damage.

If we really want to spite Fauci and friends, go out and make many babies, or help others make babies with medical research, and teach then teach said babies to hate Fauci and his ilk.

The best revenge is reproduction.
 

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