Quest A Sword Through the Multiverse: Stabbing Space Whales[A FSN/Worm quest]

[ConfusedCanadian]

Ok first off great update as always! Now I was thinking we should put some exp into our charisma and socialize attributes I still feel that they are the weakest abilities for us at the moment. I would also like to say with us foiling the assassination attempt and capturing David England probably loves us or at least sees us as one of the good guys.

 

[ironforge]

You know, I kind of wonder if the English gov will try to keep Shirou on tap here on a semi-regular base from now on?

As the kind of insight he has given to deal with OCP threats and proven himself to be a good and loyal "brit", I could easily see the PM moving to see if the hero of the hour would be interested in doing something more official like start up a new branch of the gov like the PRT was in the USA or something of the like.

That or at least see if he would be interested in help training others to do such instead and do a TEAM England thing.

 

[ConfusedCanadian]

I think at this stage and how new Parahumans are for the world it's more likely that they will keep him and saber on call for any other unusual situations that appear or whenever they need extra firepower. Maybe later the british government will start thinking of assembling a task force to handle such situations. When that happens I see them contacting Guardian and Saber to jointly lead said team given there currently the longest serving heros that the government can trust.

 

[ironforge]

I think at this stage and how new Parahumans are for the world it's more likely that they will keep him and saber on call for any other unusual situations that appear or whenever they need extra firepower. Maybe later the british government will start thinking of assembling a task force to handle such situations. When that happens I see them contacting Guardian and Saber to jointly lead said team given there currently the longest serving heros that the government can trust.

By that time I'm pretty sure they will be both the longest serving heroes in the world and the first super couple. Which feels like he would have a big impact on the Super scene. As not only will the First heroes by more armored Spec ops or Knight in look and feel. They will also be totally against treating Supers like comic stuff and not just a new type of issue to deal with instead.

Though on a side note, we all know that once Saber gets onto the super scene our boy Guardian will totally end up a Robin to her Superwoman. As those leaderships skills, presence and charisma will have the people treating her like a Legend returned, even before they start wondering if she is the king returned.

 

[ConfusedCanadian]

By that time I pretty sure they will be both the longest serving heroes in the world and the first super couple. Which feels like he would have a big impact on the Super scene. As not only will the First heroes by more armored Spec ops or Knight in look and feel. They will also be totally against treating Supers like comic stuff and not just a new type of issue to deal with instead.

Though on a side note, we all know that once Saber gets onto the super scene our boy Guardian will totally end up a Robin to her Superwoman. As those leaderships skills, presence and charisma will have the people treating her like a Legend returned, even before they start wondering if she is the king returned.

Oh totally and we have laid the groundwork for all that here which will naturally pay dividends for us down the road. And with Saber being in Britain is just a boon for us given heroic spirits gain additional strength when there in their country of origin. Though to be fair it's an already unfair fight for most Parahumans given we're two living heroic spirits as it is. Only thing holding us back right now is whatever Merlin did that nerfed us so we wouldn't be too OP which I feel will change as we become more famous.

 

[Arlos]

More likely, rather than looking for us to train/create a team of Parahuman, they are more likely to ask us to train normal governments forces in countermeasures, given how scarce Parahumans still are and how little Cauldron has meddled yet(or can meddle, with us around) to make normies look useless.

 

[ironforge]

Oh totally and we have laid the groundwork for all that here which will naturally pay dividends for us down the road. And with Saber being in Britain is just a boon for us given heroic spirits gain additional strength when there in their country of origin. Though to be fair it's an already unfair fight for most Parahumans given we're two living heroic spirits as it is. Only thing holding us back right now is whatever Merlin did that nerfed us so we wouldn't be too OP which I feel will change as we become more famous.

Well had to make it some kind of challenging after all, as otherwise England would be in space and on mars before the decade was through. As honestly, the most bullshit thing right now is Shirou's bullshit Moon Super Tech that he can both explain to others and use.

More likely, rather than looking for us to train/create a team of Parahuman, they are more likely to ask us to train normal governments forces in countermeasures, given how scarce Parahumans still are and how little Cauldron has meddled yet(or can meddle, with us around) to make normies look useless.

Yeah, but wouldn't Saber train them into "Super Soldiers" even if they were normies at the start?

 

[Arlos]

Yeah, but wouldn't Saber train them into "Super Soldiers" even if they were normies at the start?

On the contrary, I think Saber would be less suited on training normies to fight supers, because she was born exceptional, a lot of the martial skills she developped were tailored to how naturally exceptional she was and wouldn’t necessarily be of any use to a common person, she would probably have better success training a Brute.
Also, people in her time were just plain stronger

On the other hand, Shirou had to crawl his way into becoming exceptional, many time, he had to fight people stronger/faster/more skilled, so his experience and martial arts would probably be more useful to normies.
Well, that’s just my point of view.

 

[kelgar04]

On the other hand, Shirou had to crawl his way into becoming exceptional, many time, he had to fight people stronger/faster/more skilled, so his experience and martial arts would probably be more useful to normies.
Well, that’s just my point of view.

Wonder if he could train reinforcement to people.

 

[Bear Templar]

So, we have 7XP... we can improve some of our 1 dot skills and attributes, I'm thinking Charisma and either socialise or performance (I think we can technically get three 1 dot skills or 2 skills and a speciality)... you know so we can actually train people and do other important social stuff, not sure why shirou is treated as being poor at social stuff but that’s fine.


I feel we should investigate James since he is a tinker, so 1) in theory could be the assassin (less likely and I feel we might have noticed something if he was the assassin), 2) he can offer insight into how tinkers work, 3) depending on what we find (such as whether his personality is suitable, or if the government has screwed him or his family over) we might be able to find him government funding, it would do some good for his business, and would provide an early example of a respectable "rogue"

 

[Lancelot]

I think Shirou could seriously use an upgrade of that Charisma 1.

 

[Speaker4thesilent]

On the contrary, I think Saber would be less suited on training normies to fight supers, because she was born exceptional, a lot of the martial skills she developped were tailored to how naturally exceptional she was and wouldn’t necessarily be of any use to a common person, she would probably have better success training a Brute.
Also, people in her time were just plain stronger

On the other hand, Shirou had to crawl his way into becoming exceptional, many time, he had to fight people stronger/faster/more skilled, so his experience and martial arts would probably be more useful to normies.
Well, that’s just my point of view.

The difference between Instinct and Eye of the Mind (True).

Wonder if he could train reinforcement to people.

Hahahahaha, no.

not sure why shirou is treated as being poor at social stuff but that’s fine.

A relic of the previous quest. Shirou was explicitly bad at social.

 

[Arlos]

The difference between Instinct and Eye of the Mind (True).

Yep
There is also stuff like Shirou having to worry about Master like stuff and learn to deal with it, while Saber could mostly shrug it off with her ridiculous Magic resistance.

I think Shirou could seriously use an upgrade of that Charisma 1.

Ideally, Shirou would never operate far from Arturia, but situation like this time can happen, so to avoid having a situation where he spaghetti himself into a shoot out with would be ally, I guess a minimum Charisma would be good yes.

Also, just curious, but how is the Prime minister taking all this?

 

[Bear Templar]

Ideally, Shirou would never operate far from Arturia, but situation like this time can happen, so to avoid having a situation where he spaghetti himself into a shoot out with would be ally, I guess a minimum Charisma would be good yes.

Also, just curious, but how is the Prime minister taking all this?

My concern is mostly for Shirou's job stuff.

An example "Teaching roll week one, Charisma+Performance" True stunts can help with these rolls however 2 dice means it is very easy to botch and four dice is still fairly low(even with a reroll)... I'm thinking we need to get charisma to 3 ish, and performance to 3 with a speciality in teaching for us to be fully competent (this will take a bit of time admittedly). We are basically set for our other skills

Besides Charisma is an important attribute for a Hero

 

[Arlos]

My concern is mostly for Shirou's job stuff.

An example "Teaching roll week one, Charisma+Performance" True stunts can help with these rolls however 2 dice means it is very easy to botch and four dice is still fairly low(even with a reroll)... I'm thinking we need to get charisma to 3 ish, and performance to 3 with a speciality in teaching for us to be fully competent (this will take a bit of time admittedly). We are basically set for our other skills

Besides Charisma is an important attribute for a Hero

Hum, fair enough, though I would like to buff Shirou martial arts skill as well, it is a bit on the low side.

 

[ConfusedCanadian]

So how much exp does it take to increases a stat again? Because I'm all down for upgrading our charisma by a point or two.

 

[Bear Templar]

Hum, fair enough, though I would like to buff Shirou martial arts skill as well, it is a bit on the low side.

We are actually fairly decent, given we have a dex of 5 at the moment so we get 7 dice even for martial arts. I believe this also gets affected by certain things like if it is a punch vs a kick, and there should be other accuracy boosters (with 2e exalted punches add one accuracy, so 8 dice for a punch plus stunt, plus or minus other factors). So we are still fairly good at martial arts at the moment... Can still be improved (and fairly cheaply) but our Martial arts are far from bad..

If we were to raise martial arts, I’m thinking a speciality dot of some sort

So how much exp does it take to increases a stat again? Because I'm all down for upgrading our charisma by a point or two.

4*Attribute's current value so to raise charisma from 1 to 2 would be 4, and from 2 to 3, 8
For skills, 2* Current value, and speciality 3 exactly (can only go up to three dots total, and I think there are rules for how many in relation to the skill

 

[Quantumboost]

Hum, fair enough, though I would like to buff Shirou martial arts skill as well, it is a bit on the low side.

It really isn't.

First, note that while his raw Martial Arts skill is at two dots, for all practical purposes Shirou's using a dicepool of Dexterity + Martial Arts, which is at 7d. Seven dice isn't just 'competent', that's between the 'seasoned professional' and 'world class' metrics as dicepools go. And this is in a skill that Shirou isn't even likely to use on-screen in this quest.

Remember, his primary superpower is 'create weapons at will'. He can, whenever he feels like it, have a longsword, or a knife, or a stun baton immediately at hand, and use Melee instead. Martial Arts skill above what he currently has is essentially a vanity purchase in light of that.

As a priority, MA should be well below everything that he actually uses on even a semi-regular basis, especially the things where he isn't already nearly a world-class expert.

 

[ironforge]

So yeah, for XP choices, I'm thinking +1 Cha [4 Points] and +1 Socialize [2 Points] is where we should start. As being able to do the person thing better feels like it would have a HUGE effect on Shirou.

Since the guy still does a lot of things by himself, be it his job or going off and doing things in London. So him being able to be less of a social ass could only help us here.

 

[ConfusedCanadian]

4*Attribute's current value so to raise charisma from 1 to 2 would be 4, and from 2 to 3, 8
For skills, 2* Current value, and speciality 3 exactly (can only go up to three dots total, and I think there are rules for how many in relation to the skill

Thank's for the clarification

So yeah, for XP choices, I'm thinking +1 Cha [4 Points] and +1 Socialize [2 Points] is where we should start. As being able to do the person thing better feels like it would have a HUGE effect on Shirou.

Since the guy still does a lot of things by himself, be it his job or going off and doing things in London. So him being able to be less of a social ass could only help us here.

And I was thinking the same thing while Shirou doesn't have to be the best at interacting with people(that's what saber's for) doesn't mean he has to be horrible at it either.