There is no such thing as right Wing Communists or Socialists. Only infiltrators.
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KilroywasNOTHere
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I think what's happened is you have a lot of former leftist or would-have-been leftist switching sides not because they aren't still Marxist socialist at heart, but because the left dumped them for another demographic, so they turn to the right in hopes of establishing a grassroots socialist movement on a national scale as opposed to a global one. a nationalists socialist movement if you will. hence an appeal to traditional values, masculinity and white pride, It's California Flight. "Grift to another side and not question your ideology. What scares me is that many Gen Zers are falling for it.
If so then they better wise up or find another camp. Because Conservatives sure as shit don't want them.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
Or people who don't really understand the terminology. I have met many people who had rather strongly insisted that anarchism is an inherently left-wing position, and considering that I am a right-wing anarchist in many respects... yeah.
ParadiseLost
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Fascism and communism are different in ideology, but very similar in practice - authoritarian state that exists to enrich its own beauracracy, lots of racial chauvinism, etc.
Relevant.
Right Wing 'Anarchists' are essentially those who believe in bare minimal or zero government. They're a different breed from the Left Wing variety, from what I've seen. They don't generally cause random violence like their left wing counterparts. But...Government? Not too keen on them and are willing to use violence there. Not sure they're any better, just different goals and targets for their ire.
LordsFire
Internet Wizard
'Right Wing' anarchists are generally 'leave me alone' types, and rarely outright anarchists, more often minarchists.
Left Wing anarchists are generally 'tear everything down, burn it all so we can build our utopia' types.
The Karens and Kevins who can't mind their own business and think they can order you around. I miss when you could punch them to shut them up and that would resolve things. These days these bastards are weak and call the cops for nuisance calls
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
There is a massive difference between wanting no government and wanting no society.
I thought I stated that?
I have been a place that had no government. Hard pass it was a shithole. And if you are curious what that place was. It is located in the Horn of Africa.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
I was specifically talking about this:
Fact that goals and targets of ire are different is actually what makes right-wing anarchists better, because "just" removing government is far easier and far less disruptive to society than trying to remodel society as a whole.
Even though both are not that realistic.
That has to do as much with culture as with the government or lack of it.
Like a tenth of all the stories I hear about the Russian military...
Jackson Hinkle Nazbol Update.
So yeah...
1 An American PATRIOT
2 GOD fearing
3 Pro-FAMILY
4 Marxist Leninist
5 Pro-PALESTINE, RUSSIA & CHINA
6 Anti-DEEP STATE
7 Anti-IMPERIALIST
8 Anti-WOKE
9 Pro-GROWTH
10 Anti-MONOPOLY
11 Pro-GUN
12 Pro-FOSSIL FUEL
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ParadiseLost
Well-known member
Jackson Hinkle Nazbol Update.
1 An American PATRIOT
2 GOD fearing
3 Pro-FAMILY
4 Marxist Leninist
5 Pro-PALESTINE, RUSSIA & CHINA
6 Anti-DEEP STATE
7 Anti-IMPERIALIST
8 Anti-WOKE
9 Pro-GROWTH
10 Anti-MONOPOLY
11 Pro-GUN
12 Pro-FOSSIL FUEL
So many contradictions and ideological conflicts, I'm just gonna list some by number.
For one you could make a decent argument that #4 is inherently contradictory with itself, as popular as it is for people to call themselves a Marxist Leninist.
1 and 4 and 1 and 5 are both contradictory.
2 and 5 are contradictory.
3 and 4 are arguably ideologically contradictory.
5 and 7 are contradictory.
6 and 7 I would argue are contradictory if by anti-Imperialist you specifically mean anti-American-imperialism.
4 and 8 are not inherently contradictory (indeed much the opposite), but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who is genuinely both.
7 and 12 are not inherently contradictory per se, but are contradictory in practice. Arguably 6 and 12 as well.
4 and 9 are not inherently contradictory, but not mutually conductive.
Honestly the dudes list of beliefs sound like a cry for attention more than anything else.
strunkenwhite
Well-known member
I'm curious how you'd make that case. Purely out of curiosity, because it does sound like this guy is one of those who think that imperialism can only be done by the country with the most global influence at the time (if not America specifically).
Skallagrim
Well-known member
Jackson Hinkle Nazbol Update.
So yeah...
1 An American PATRIOT
2 GOD fearing
3 Pro-FAMILY
4 Marxist Leninist
5 Pro-PALESTINE, RUSSIA & CHINA
6 Anti-DEEP STATE
7 Anti-IMPERIALIST
8 Anti-WOKE
9 Pro-GROWTH
10 Anti-MONOPOLY
11 Pro-GUN
12 Pro-FOSSIL FUEL
13. A total schizo
God fearing marxist-leninist? then i am vegan cannibal.Jackson Hinkle Nazbol Update.
So yeah...
1 An American PATRIOT
2 GOD fearing
3 Pro-FAMILY
4 Marxist Leninist
5 Pro-PALESTINE, RUSSIA & CHINA
6 Anti-DEEP STATE
7 Anti-IMPERIALIST
8 Anti-WOKE
9 Pro-GROWTH
10 Anti-MONOPOLY
11 Pro-GUN
12 Pro-FOSSIL FUEL
...Glad I'm not the only one who saw how most of those contradicted each other. smh Is this guy a legitimately brain-damaged Leftist or a troll?