Floridaman
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That is damning by faint praise if i have ever heard it.
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49ersfootball
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The Baltic States are nervous.
Floridaman
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I mean they should be. We are broke from 20 years of war, and europe thought war was a thing of the past.
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
Really amazing to see the media and D.C. really REALLY pump up the Jingoism for support. I have seen a lot of really blind support for Ukraine from people whose entire understanding of the debacle can be sumarized in "I heard it happened it sounds bad".
Yes, it is. But in this tragedy Putin isn't the only villain, and that makes it far worse. None of this would have come to pass if NATO wasn't just pushing east like crazy and if the CIA hadn't gone full Color Revolution in 2014. Trump halted it by simply refusing to expand NATO because he saw it as Europe munching on American money.
Now we have D.C. types and Propaganda Journos demanding people accept a some times 20% rise in gas prices and the knock on effects of that over "Democracy" blindly. "Don't question it! How dare you not want to have your living standards lowered? This is LITERALLY WW2!"
Yes, it is. But in this tragedy Putin isn't the only villain, and that makes it far worse. None of this would have come to pass if NATO wasn't just pushing east like crazy and if the CIA hadn't gone full Color Revolution in 2014. Trump halted it by simply refusing to expand NATO because he saw it as Europe munching on American money.
Now we have D.C. types and Propaganda Journos demanding people accept a some times 20% rise in gas prices and the knock on effects of that over "Democracy" blindly. "Don't question it! How dare you not want to have your living standards lowered? This is LITERALLY WW2!"
49ersfootball
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Putin has outfoxed the 5th consecutive US President in a row:
*Clinton
*Bush, Jr.,
*Obama: Don't get me started on this weakling
*Trump
*Biden
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How did Putin punk Trump? If anything Trump was the only president to actually restrain Putin.
Sobek
Disgusting Scalie
If rumors are to believed by doing this:
Trump talks about Putin, mocking Merkel and more at Mar-a-Lago
It was Presidents’ Day and Donald Trump looked especially relaxed. Wearing a white golf shirt emblazoned with the presidential seal, he was talkative without being combative.
nypost.com
He also didn't try and move NATO eastward, or push to replace Putin with a "democracy" from a color revolution
49ersfootball
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I meant to say Putin has outfoxed every US President.
49ersfootball
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@The Whispering Monk If I was President of the United States: I'd wipe Russia off the map very quickly!
Floridaman
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And they would nuke you as well it is called MAD for a reason
So...how did Putin outfox Trump?
Floridaman
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Apparently by convincing Trump not to cause a nuclear Holocaust
49ersfootball
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Like Russia threatening AK ?
Carrot of Truth
War is Peace
I have to say 6$ a gallon gas in the US will cause things to rapidly destabilize and lead too rioting on a scale that makes the "Summer of love" look like childs play. The government will end up employing martial law just to try and hold the country together and what happens after that is anyones guess.
Floridaman
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I don't know if you are aware but russia and the US both have enough nukes to end all life on earth several times over saying if they attack you you will use it is one thing, doing it is another. But since you apparently don't understand the cold War I am leaving this below.
Carrot of Truth
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Actually they don't have enough active ones to end the world or really even completely destroy one another anymore at least according to official counts with the disarmament treaties.
Floridaman
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According to what I read they have about 4000 nukes
Carrot of Truth
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The US currently has about 1,200 nukes that are ready to launch at this moment while Russia also around around 1,200 ready to launch. Their stockpiles are somewhat larger but its highly unlikely anyone would be capable of pulling those out of storage putting them on delivery systems and launching them after the initial exchange.
Terthna
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Maybe not with the initial strikes, but the modern world is heavily dependent on a complex network of infrastructure that couldn't function if any significant part of it suddenly ceased to exist. Even if America and Russia just end up destroying each other's major military, manufacturing, and population centers, nobody would be able to get anything anymore; least of all, food.
Carrot of Truth
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Oh it would definitely fuck the world up and they would both either launch or save some for China too.