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Actually we might be in a worse condition, germanys populace in tbe 20s was younger relatively speaking, meaning when the wellfare system collapsed more people could survive for themselves. Whereas we now have to deal with a massive wave of retirements, which we can't afford.

So who do you think will carve out which parts of land when the system collapses? The US is half a mega continent in size with each individual state being the size of an entire country.
 

Typhonis

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I hope not, one of those retirees is my own mother. Liker myself she worked for 40 some years before she had to retire to help care for dad before he passed away. Hell, I've been paying into Social Security since 1990 and would like to see something for it.

Think about it. Paying x amount a week for 40+ years. Where is the money now? Sounds like something that would land a persons ass in prison.
 

Floridaman

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I hope not, one of those retirees is my own mother. Liker myself she worked for 40 some years before she had to retire to help care for dad before he passed away. Hell, I've been paying into Social Security since 1990 and would like to see something for it.

Think about it. Paying x amount a week for 40+ years. Where is the money now? Sounds like something that would land a persons ass in prison.
Easy the government spent it on all the other benefit programs the people voted for.
Also what did you expect social security is a textbook ponzi scheme, a system relying on new "contributors" to pay out to the earlier "contributors". And like always when the system can no longer grow it collapses.
 
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The Whispering Monk

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Actually we might be in a worse condition, germanys populace in tbe 20s was younger relatively speaking, meaning when the wellfare system collapsed more people could survive for themselves. Whereas we now have to deal with a massive wave of retirements, which we can't afford.
The sad part is that, if we do go down that road of collapse, a large portion of our elders will die b/c they won't be able to afford their meds.
 

Bacle

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Banning Russian gold imports mean the rest of the world cannot take Russian gold and try to turn around an convert it to USD, eliminating one of Russia's last real economic tools.

It's a lot easier to try to hide Russian oil in tankers and such from other places, doing secret transfers on the high seas, than it is to try to launder gold.

Russia is losing friends and business partners left and right, no matter what Pravada or the Kremlin say. Why do you all think so many orders for Russian military equipment from plaves like India have been cancelled.
 

Floridaman

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Banning Russian gold imports mean the rest of the world cannot take Russian gold and try to turn around an convert it to USD, eliminating one of Russia's last real economic tools.

It's a lot easier to try to hide Russian oil in tankers and such from other places, doing secret transfers on the high seas, than it is to try to launder gold.

Russia is losing friends and business partners left and right, no matter what Pravada or the Kremlin say. Why do you all think so many orders for Russian military equipment from plaves like India have been cancelled.
The g7 banned it, not the world, as others explained india, China, South America and Africa are not part of the g7 and aren't participating. Also the g7 hasn't been buying gold, in fact most of them got rid of their gold reserves years ago.
 

Bacle

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The g7 banned it, not the world, as others explained india, China, South America and Africa are not part of the g7 and aren't participating. Also the g7 hasn't been buying gold, in fact most of them got rid of their gold reserves years ago.
Japan also banned it, and the G7 banning it means other nations cannot do business with Russia and then turn around and try to convert that Russian gold into USD.

Or did you forget SWIFT is a thing, and the sanctions do extend to 'laundering' operations in other nations as well.
 

Floridaman

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Japan also banned it, and the G7 banning it means other nations cannot do business with Russia and then turn around and try to convert that Russian gold into USD.

Or did you forget SWIFT is a thing, and the sanctions do extend to 'laundering' operations in other nations as well.
They don't want USD, the Russians have been building up reserves of alternative assets. Again try reading news from India Africa and South America, you are stuck in the western bubble, but hey if you wanna be surprised at the shortages that are already starting to occur be my guest.
 

Bacle

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They don't want USD, the Russians have been building up reserves of alternative assets. Again try reading news from India Africa and South America, you are stuck in the western bubble, but hey if you wanna be surprised at the shortages that are already starting to occur be my guest.
You misunderstand.

The countries taking in Russian gold, so they can do non-USD/non-ruble based transactions, would like to be able to turn that gold into USD.

These bans mean those other countries can no longer turn the gold they get from Russia into USD.

Edit: Think of it as similar to the sanctions on African blood diamonds; the bans mean you cannot sell/exchange Russian gold for goods/USD with any nation that is part of SWIFT.
 

Floridaman

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You misunderstand.

The countries taking in Russian gold, so they can do non-USD/non-ruble based transactions, would like to be able to turn that gold into USD.

These bans mean those other countries can no longer turn the gold they get from Russia into USD.

Edit: Think of it as similar to the sanctions on African blood diamonds; the bans mean you cannot sell/exchange Russian gold for goods/USD with any nation that is part of SWIFT.
You could sanction African diamonds because in the end all they made was jewelry, sanction oil, fertilizer and other necessities and see how far you get, you seem to think the dollar is valued beyond being a means of exchange. The problem is a means of exchange which excludes a large part of humanity is pointless. There is a reason during the cold war the US navy defended USSR shipping,, and it wasn't out of kindness the US has forgotten what has to be done to maintain the reserve currency,, and we will all pay the price.. but then I can't convince you, so if you are right the US economy will recover promptly, and things will be gumdrops and ice cream, but if I am right, a storm is coming, but hey as your groceries and gas get harder and harder to afford, just tell yourself you are approaching the final victory, mein herr.
 
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Bacle

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You could sanction African diamonds because in the end all they made was jewelry, sanction oil, fertilizer and other necessities and see how far you get.... but then I can't convince you, so if you are right the US economy will recover promptly, and things will be gumdrops and ice cream, but if I am right, a storm is coming, but hey as your groceries and gas get harder and harder to afford, just tell yourself you are approaching the final victory, mein herr.
...when you are comparing me to Nazi's for daring to point out the flaws in your pro-Russia shit, and ignoring that I didn't say everything would be fine on our end (Russian gold bans won't change things here, because it's Biden, not Russia, who is fucking over the US) I don't think there is a point in engaging with you further.
 

Floridaman

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...when you are comparing me to Nazi's for daring to point out the flaws in your pro-Russia shit, and ignoring that I didn't say everything would be fine on our end (Russian gold bans won't change things here, because it's Biden, not Russia, who is fucking over the US) I don't think there is a point in engaging with you further.
Pro russian, I am an anarchist, I hate all government, my point is that the idiots who claim to be the world leaders are pushing the planet to a crisis that will leave a lot of people dead from food shortage, lead to global wars, and the collapse of the nations they claim to be leading. I am comparing you to the Germans because you also seem to be following the government you were born under well past the point of sanity.
 

Bacle

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Pro russian, I am an anarchist, I hate all government, my point is that the idiots who claim to be the world leaders are pushing the planet to a crisis that will leave a lot of people dead from food shortage, lead to global wars, and the collapse of the nations they claim to be leading. I am comparing you to the Germans because you also seem to be following the government you were born under well past the point of sanity.
...so you haven't actually paid attention to what I've said, and view anyone who doesn't parrot the Kremlin line as a 'pawn' of the US gov, because you hate all government?

I know how bad things are, but I also know the real causes of the issues, but I also know when someone is buying Kremlin BS. The situation fucking over the US is more about domestic issues/Biden than about Russia and Ukraine.

I don't buy everything the US govs says, you know since I think the 2020 election was stolen, and I've called it out multiple times, and I know many elites want to kill off the plebs.

But I also am not blinded by partisan bullshit, where anything that the west says is a lie and anything Moscow says is true.
 

Zachowon

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Wow...
You all do not understand what this actually means.

And no, India is not actually choosing Russia over the US.
India is seeing how the Chinese are taking a active part in trying to take control of Russia.
So India is going more towards the west.

Vast majority of the world is on the US and the Wests side.
All of our allies in the Pacific are on our side.
Huge tech giants...

Stop buying into Russian propaganda.
Hell this is part of Russias psyops. Turn the US against each other so they can have less resistance.

And this has been confirmed by more then just the US...
 

Floridaman

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...so you haven't actually paid attention to what I've said, and view anyone who doesn't parrot the Kremlin line as a 'pawn' of the US gov, because you hate all government?

I know how bad things are, but I also know the real causes of the issues, but I also know when someone is buying Kremlin BS. The situation fucking over the US is more about domestic issues/Biden than about Russia and Ukraine.

I don't buy everything the US govs says, you know since I think the 2020 election was stolen, and I've called it out multiple times, and I know many elites want to kill off the plebs.

But I also am not blinded by partisan bullshit, where anything that the west says is a lie and anything Moscow says is true.
I don't listen to the Russian government i don't read sputnik, or RT I read news from countries like India because I want to know what the neutral parties are saying. As for Ukraine, no I don't blame it on that, it is a combination of that and other factors. Most notably the refusal of the EU, and US to build alternatives prior to sanctioning a geopolitical rival. For instance we have a global fertilizer shortage and the EU is worried about their climate goals, meaning they don't want to build alternatives to Russian fertilizer.
 

Floridaman

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Wow...
You all do not understand what this actually means.

And no, India is not actually choosing Russia over the US.
India is seeing how the Chinese are taking a active part in trying to take control of Russia.
So India is going more towards the west.

Vast majority of the world is on the US and the Wests side.
All of our allies in the Pacific are on our side.
Huge tech giants...

Stop buying into Russian propaganda.
Hell this is part of Russias psyops. Turn the US against each other so they can have less resistance.

And this has been confirmed by more then just the US...
When did I say india was picking Russia, I said they were staying NEUTRAL, as in not participating in the conflict, or the sanctions.
 

Zachowon

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When did I say india was picking Russia, I said they were staying NEUTRAL, as in not participating in the conflict, or the sanctions.
They are staying neutral because they know if they choose sides they will either get the ire from China or the US
 

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