United States Biden administration policies and actions - megathread

[Bacle]

Ohh.
That is a LOT easier to right off as the operator.

I wasn't a 'write off' strike where the son was killed with the father.

The kid was killed after his father, in a separate strike specifically targeting him, and Obama himself said 'well he had a very irresponsible father' as justification for the strike.

 

[Zachowon]

I wasn't a 'write off' strike where the son was killed with the father.

The kid was killed after his father, in a separate strike specifically targeting him, and Obama himself said 'well he had a very irresponsible father' as justification for the strike.

I honestly don't know much about it.
Will look into it. Remeber I never trust unclassified information on these kinds things

 

[Bacle]

I honestly don't know much about it.
Will look into it. Remeber I never trust unclassified information on these kinds things

You do realize that saying that you only trust the classified data on things like this tell the rest of us that the US military and gov are likely lying to and deceiving the US public about military matters on a regular basis.

Like, you've been an cop and now an IC analyst; have you ever stopped to think your perspective on things might be biased towards obeying authority and viewing civies as ignorant folk to be told to just fall in line and 'trust authority'?

 

[Rocinante]

You do realize that saying that you only trust the classified data on things like this tell the rest of us that the US military and gov are likely lying to and deceiving the US public about military matters on a regular basis.

Like, you've been an cop and now an IC analyst; have you ever stopped to think your perspective on things might be biased towards obeying authority and viewing civies as ignorant folk to be told to just fall in line and 'trust authority'?

yeah I read it pretty much as:
"Don't worry guys, they're not lying to you about this, they're actually lying about THIS...but I can't tell you."

or "guys the lies they are telling you are wrong, the truth is that I can't tell you"

And in that last one he's literally telling us we can't trust them lol

And this is supposed to make us trust them more?

I trust that I can't trust them.

 

[Zachowon]

Or that there is Always information that is never told, and context always missing.
That is the only reason I don't trust Unclassified information involving military matters

 

[Rocinante]

Or that there is Always information that is never told, and context always missing.
That is the only reason I don't trust Unclassified information involving military matters

In other words, we shouldn't trust the military

 

[Zachowon]

In other words, we shouldn't trust the military

No.
Just always think there is more to a situation. Especially when it sounds bad.

 

[Cherico]

If Pence hadn't betrayed Trump and his voters, there would be no Biden regime in the first place.

Pence needs to shut up, and leave public life; no one on the Right has any reason to listen to a damn thing he says.

true but I still prefer shit posts over the actual wars we have now.

 

[Rocinante]

No.
Just always think there is more to a situation. Especially when it sounds bad.

Do you think about the stuff you say? That's Literally advising me not to trust them.

If the automatic assumption is "there's more to the situation," that's NOT TRUST.

 

[Zachowon]

Do you think about the stuff you say? That's Literally advising me not to trust them.

If the automatic assumption is "there's more to the situation," that's NOT TRUST.

Let's put it this way.
If it is good news, it is generally everything they have about it.
If it is bad news there is always more, most likely good news in there as well just not allowed to he said.

Of course for bad news it could be everything.
I just don't know.

 

[Rocinante]

Let's put it this way.
If it is good news, it is generally everything they have about it.
If it is bad news there is always more, most likely good news in there as well just not allowed to he said.

Of course for bad news it could be everything.
I just don't know.

In other words, again: don't trust shit from the military if it's bad news.

Believe me, I definitely don't.

 

[Bacle]

In other words, we shouldn't trust the military

No.
Just always think there is more to a situation. Especially when it sounds bad.

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Do you think about the stuff you say? That's Literally advising me not to trust them.

If the automatic assumption is "there's more to the situation," that's NOT TRUST.

Let's put it this way.
If it is good news, it is generally everything they have about it.
If it is bad news there is always more, most likely good news in there as well just not allowed to he said.

Of course for bad news it could be everything.
I just don't know.

I remember seeing a quote from a former Lookheed Martin exec in 95, who also was head of the Skunk Works for a while.

He said that we'd be exploring the stars now, except the tech is all locked up in black projects.

The US military might not be hiding a Stargate from the public, but I have little doubt it's been deceiving the US public and hiding tech from us for a long time. I read enough Air and Space magazine in my life to know how long stuff can stay classified, and how groundbreaking hidden/classified tech could be.

 

[Rocinante]

I remember seeing a quote from a former Lookheed Martin exec in 95, who also was head of the Skunk Works for a while.

He said that we'd be exploring the stars now, except the tech is all locked up in black projects.

The US military might not be hiding a Stargate from the public, but I have little doubt it's been deceiving the US public and hiding tech from us for a long time. I read enough Air and Space magazine in my life to know how long stuff can stay classified, and how groundbreaking hidden/classified tech could be.

Look at these recent UFO sightings/leaks.

The military has tech that breaks what we know about physics

 

[Bacle]

Look at these recent UFO sightings/leaks.

The military has tech that breaks what we know about physics

I expect most of those UFOs are black projects of ours or other nations.

A few might be legit aliens or supernatural things, but most are probably just black projects testing their abilities against 'conventional' sensors and observers.

 

[prinCZess]

In other words, we shouldn't trust the military

Honestly, one of the primary and less focused-upon fears of the American Founders (and their British ideological forebears) being the standing military establishment for the raftload of detrimental impacts such would have is something that could very much use to come back--alongside more widespread distrust and skepticism of the military as an institution and those who feed and supply it (in fact, the military and its associated industrial and policymaking complex should probably be the prominent recipient of much of the skepticism currently leveled at 'police' in general--with police only deserving such in more localized instances because of the very decentralized nature of those forces compared to the explicitly centralized military).

Which is to say/agree that no, we shouldn't trust the military. Even presuming it was a positive, the 'special status' of the institution during years of antiSoviet containment-strategy is very much over now...Or, even from a cynical and cold perspective that sees it as a positive development, requires refocusing upon the red Chinese target that it has been hesitant to actually do (both for its own reasons and because of the interests of the American financial complex).

 

[Zachowon]

Honestly, one of the primary and less focused-upon fears of the American Founders (and their British ideological forebears) being the standing military establishment for the raftload of detrimental impacts such would have is something that could very much use to come back--alongside more widespread distrust and skepticism of the military as an institution and those who feed and supply it (in fact, the military and its associated industrial and policymaking complex should probably be the prominent recipient of much of the skepticism currently leveled at 'police' in general--with police only deserving such in more localized instances because of the very decentralized nature of those forces compared to the explicitly centralized military).

Which is to say/agree that no, we shouldn't trust the military. Even presuming it was a positive, the 'special status' of the institution during years of antiSoviet containment-strategy is very much over now...Or, even from a cynical and cold perspective that sees it as a positive development, requires refocusing upon the red Chinese target that it has been hesitant to actually do (both for its own reasons and because of the interests of the American financial complex).

We have been switching focus onto China.

But for Bacle and Rocinante.
You know how we have recorded footage of police and one should wait for context.
That is the same with the military stuff

 

[S'task]

I expect most of those UFOs are black projects of ours or other nations.

My understanding based on what I've heard over the years is that a lot of the "Roswell" sightings were exactly that, as per what I've heard Area 51 was a radar testing range. IE, it's the EXACT place they'd use to test the radar profile of things like the B-2, F-117, and other such stealth technology...

 

[Bacle]

 

[Jormungandr]

Well, when he's entitled to as much respect as a lump of cat shit on the soles of their shoes...

 

[Bacle]

Fucking lol, they are having to do theater of this level to keep Biden looking like he has it together.