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RFK Jr. Downloads On Durham Report: '50 Top-Level CIA Agents' Agreed to 'Collaborate in a Project to Fix an Election'
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f1onagher
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He's already been discredited in the eyes of the general populace and elite. He's physically safe until they can slip the untraceable crab toxin into his food.
Carrot of Truth
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Hmm... smacks of glowie shenanigans.
No actual identity and a convenient swastika flag.
Zyobot
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What’s especially hilarious is how the flag was sitting neatly unfurled on the ground as the officer picked it up.
Not to mention no weapons, no injuries, and the un-pictured suspect having a “foreign-sounding” name — even though you’d normally expect Neo-Nazis to be, you know… white and bearing a European name.
Blasterbot
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hey now. Neo-nazi's are an incredibly ethnically diverse set of people you know. they got blacks, Latinos, Philipinos, Indians, Slavs, jews, honestly it is surprising how many minorities keep falling for this white supremacy thing.
Zyobot
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Blasterbot
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of course. Whiteness is property. if they are capitalists they are benefiting from Whiteness. it is distinct from skin color. it is why Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell, and Clarence Thomas are all white supremacists who benefit from whiteness while a white college professor who is a socialist is fine.“Basically, MAGA is multi-ethnic whiteness.” — WaPo, probably.
remember they have 4 goals
1 Gain power
2 Destabilize the system
3 attack Capitalism
4 bring about the socialist revolution
everything serves these goals.
Zyobot
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Don’t suppose you recall the team’s name or where it was taken?
Otherwise, that actually makes more sense than it’d seem on the surface. While I know Hitler and the NSDAP was active in the 1920s, they had yet to pull all the warmongering and genocide that made their chief symbol verboten in the West today. Hopefully, that fades with time, since the Swastika itself is actually a pretty cool design.
Carrot of Truth
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In a another century or so a Swastika will probably be about as controversial as the symbols used by the Mongols are today.
This is such a pathetic glowie op that I wonder if they're even trying anymore -- either that, or the American populace has been so dumbed down that they'd believe there were five lights instead of four, if told to think that by Uncle Sam.
Zyobot
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Basically, only evoking strong feelings among very “clannish” demographics and pretty much none at all from everyone else?
Yeah, seems legit. Apart from World War II and the Holocaust fading from the public consciousness with time, there’s also the double-edged sword of a new round of genocides and carnage roaring to life as a consequence of that stigma disappearing — and thus, making the masterminds behind future atrocities the symbols of evil that our descendants shudder at as they look back at us from the 22nd century.
Thing is, WW2 is in that odd stage where it's considered part of history but very relevant history because of its scale, and the atrocities committed by it hadn't been seen in a war beforehand -- yes, prior wars and conflicts in history had seen atrocities and genocides, but WW2's scale was horrific, even to WW1.
When WW1 kicked off, the Napoleonic Wars and the American Civil War had been basically within the same time-span as WW2 is to us now -- just over a hundred years at most and sixty/seventy years for the ACW. They were still in living memory.
Hell, parents and grandparents of soldiers sent off to WW1 likely fought in the Napoleonic Wars/ACW (when the Americans finally got involved in the last few months).
As such, Nazi symbolism is a bit of an oddity because it's historical but still scarring.
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Carrot of Truth
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Temujin and his riders killed like 20% of earth's total human population. The fact is that ww2 isn't as unprecedented as boomers like to think. Boomers for whatever reason treat history as if it began with WW2 and nothing else of significance happened prior to that.
Yes, but the Mongols and their actions were centuries old by that point. it faded from living memory to history.
Just like the Napoleonic Wars and American Civil War to the WW1/WW2 generation, WW2 isn't quite there yet for us here in 2023, especially because of the engineered mass-murder seen in WW2.
Zyobot
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That's true. And to an extent, I think the unique horrors of World War II will make the stigma last longer than the leftover trauma from previous conflicts has.
Problem is... "last longer" doesn't mean "last forever", so I'd still expect the Hitler guilt to die eventually, judging by the timing of these things. After all, the Thirty Years' War was pretty damn cataclysmic for its time, too — yet that didn't stop Napoleon from sweeping across Europe a century and a half later. Nor did knowledge of Napoleon's conquests and their horrors stop the leadership of 1914 Europe from kickstarting World War I, despite the fact they no doubt learned about it through tutelage and reading in their spare time.
Heck, even now, people are becoming more and more apathetic about these things, which is no doubt accelerated by the regular overuse of Godwin's Law trivializing Hitler comparisons to the point of becoming an eye-rolling cliché instead of a grave and outrageous accusation. Once we're the same age as World War II veterans are now, there won't be a Godwin's Law to take serious any more — at least, until The Next Hitler (or for that matter, Next Stalin) reinvents it by unleashing genocidal carnage of their own in the last 21st or early 22nd century.
Granted, that's not to rule out Hitler's shadow looming large over the blood-soaked monsters of our century, in the sense of providing a blueprint for how to carry out their own genocides. If the likes of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and others still took a liking to the Jacobins and French Revolution (despite being generations removed from them), then I wouldn't put it past The Next Hitler to look at OG Hitler for inspiration and perform a Nazi salute over the Führerbunker in much the same way OG Hitler visited Napoleon's tomb to pay his respects.
History repeats, sadly enough. It just takes time for the last atrocity to fade from living memory.That's true. And to an extent, I think the unique horrors of World War II will make the stigma last longer than the leftover trauma from previous conflicts has.
Problem is... "last longer" doesn't mean "last forever", so I'd still expect the Hitler guilt to die eventually, judging by the timing of these things. After all, the Thirty Years' War was pretty damn cataclysmic for its time, too — yet that didn't stop Napoleon from sweeping across Europe a century and a half later. Nor did knowledge of Napoleon's conquests and their horrors stop the leadership of 1914 Europe from kickstarting World War I, despite the fact they no doubt learned about it through tutelage and reading in their spare time.
Heck, even now, people are becoming more and more apathetic about these things, which is no doubt accelerated by the regular overuse of Godwin's Law trivializing Hitler comparisons to the point of becoming an eye-rolling cliché instead of a grave and outrageous accusation. Once we're the same age as World War II veterans are now, there won't be a Godwin's Law to take serious any more — at least, until The Next Hitler (or for that matter, Next Stalin) reinvents it by unleashing genocidal carnage of their own in the last 21st or early 22nd century.
Zyobot
Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
History repeats, sadly enough. It just takes time for the last atrocity to fade from living memory.
It "rhymes" more than "repeats", if you ask me. But yes, there is an alarming tendency for humanity's collective memory to "reset" every few generations — and thus, for later generations to either roundly ignore or draw all the wrong conclusions from their forebears' mistakes.
Upon reflection, I wouldn't rule out the next generation of blood-soaked monsters learning all the wrong lessons from Hitler's example, in much the same way that Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and other Communist revolutionaries revered and consciously emulated Robespierre and the Reign of Terror... before taking the blood purges, purity-spiraling, and social engineering to whole new extremes. Seen in that light, I think Hitler and the Nazis' shadow will still loom large over future genocidaires, especially when things get so bad, that they decide "Whatever Globalists hate must be good. Globalists really hate Hitler — so therefore, Hitler good!" and take that to its logical conclusion. 👿