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[Husky_Khan]

Time to start arresting those boats?

Think it's an issue of lack of resources in the coral harvesting case. The Philippines has invested a lot in expanding Coast Guard and Naval resources the past few years however so the situation is improving. A lot of the ships you see confronting the ChiComs out there are newer patrol boats from Japan, United States, France and South Korea and the like.

 

[Jormungandr]

Time to start arresting those boats?

Sink them.

A lot of these "fisherman" won't be so keen when they come to realize they're just going to be sent to a watery grave.

Just label them as pirates, and blow the fuck out of them when they're in Filipino waters.

 

[Zachowon]

I'm for it.
Just be ready for China to start shooting back

 

[Bacle]

Maybe it's time for the Philippine's to start issuing Letter's of Marque against the CCP poachers.

 

[Marduk]

Foreign Policy did a long article detailing the recent Chinese efforts to prevent the Philippines government from supplying military outposts on its own internationally recognized territory. Over ten Chinese military vessels were deployed and used dazzlers, lasers, water cannons and ramming and other maneuvers to attempt to prevent Filipino Naval, Coast Guard and civilian vessels from transiting their own waters and supplying their own posts.

They've also deployed military vessels as well as dozens of their so-called "Maritime Militia" of armed fishing boats to other islands near the Philippines.

It's about time for the reinvention of ramming prows for modern vessels, both for export and domestic USN use. Then affirmative action captains can be written up for target misidentification or excessive aggression instead of incompetence, and the rest could be sold to SEA countries dealing with China's militia.

 

[Poe]

I'm for it.
Just be ready for China to start shooting back

If they do the US Navy will get involved, the Phillipines is a US ally.

 

[DarthOne]

If they do the US Navy will get involved, the Phillipines is a US ally.

Hah! Yeah right. Like that will happen with China’s claws in our government

 

[Zachowon]

I mean.
It will because treaties.

 

[DarthOne]

I mean.
It will because treaties.

No, why will happen is that the US and Chinese governments will have a private talk and the whole matter will be swept under the rug.

 

[Poe]

No, why will happen is that the US and Chinese governments will have a private talk and the whole matter will be swept under the rug.

Just because you say shit you've heard from political talking heads doesn't make it true. The two governments are at each other throats and have been for going on eight years now, with the last two becoming increasingly tense to the point there is currently rapid economic decoupling. The US is quite literally spending trillions of dollars domestically to prepare to combat China as are a large number of its allies. Yes I know right wing pundits like to pretend we're secretly owned by China, but that's mostly a grift stoking nationalist flames not the truth. We've definitely been too close for comfort for over a generation until Trump, but that is a lot different from the stuff you're spewing.

If China fires on a US ally we will be involved no matter how much you screech that this isn't the case.

 

[Jormungandr]

Just because you say shit you've heard from political talking heads doesn't make it true. The two governments are at each other throats and have been for going on eight years now, with the last two becoming increasingly tense to the point there is currently rapid economic decoupling. The US is quite literally spending trillions of dollars domestically to prepare to combat China as are a large number of its allies. Yes I know right wing pundits like to pretend we're secretly owned by China, but that's mostly a grift stoking nationalist flames not the truth. We've definitely been too close for comfort for over a generation until Trump, but that is a lot different from the stuff you're spewing.

If China fires on a US ally we will be involved no matter how much you screech that this isn't the case.

Honestly, I'm cynical enough to think it'd go either way, especially with Beijing Biden and his backers being in office.

 

[Bacle]

Just because you say shit you've heard from political talking heads doesn't make it true. The two governments are at each other throats and have been for going on eight years now, with the last two becoming increasingly tense to the point there is currently rapid economic decoupling. The US is quite literally spending trillions of dollars domestically to prepare to combat China as are a large number of its allies. Yes I know right wing pundits like to pretend we're secretly owned by China, but that's mostly a grift stoking nationalist flames not the truth. We've definitely been too close for comfort for over a generation until Trump, but that is a lot different from the stuff you're spewing.

If China fires on a US ally we will be involved no matter how much you screech that this isn't the case.

The CCP ties to the Biden family are not something that can be ignored, and the other CCP connections on both sides of the aisle make me doubt that any shooting war with the CCP will happen with the current political leadership, even if they move on Taiwan.

We'll sell people all the guns they want, but I don't think the US will truly stand up the the CCP if the options are 'war shots' or 'hang Taiwan/ally out to dry while attempting backroom deal'.

I'd trust India, Veitnam, and maybe even Japan to fire war shots and back them up against the CCP, more than I'd trust the US to be willing to fire war shots against CCP aggression in the SCS.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

...SNIP...

I don't think Biden et al. are that dumb. If they leave Taiwan hanging in the breeze...the USA's role as a world power comes crashing down. It'll take time, but it'll happen. Between what China will do to squeeze us, and every other power looking at USA like it's a leper colony. We'd be done, and the people in charge that made that decision would go down first.

 

[Zachowon]

And the fact we have treaties with Phillipines, Japan, South Korea.
Defending these places if mandatory fir us to remain a world power

 

[Bacle]

I don't think Biden et al. are that dumb. If they leave Taiwan hanging in the breeze...the USA's role as a world power comes crashing down. It'll take time, but it'll happen. Between what China will do to squeeze us, and every other power looking at USA like it's a leper colony. We'd be done, and the people in charge that made that decision would go down first.

They just gave the Ayatollah a shit load of cash for hostages, and yet Tehran just Charlie-Brown'd them on blocking nuclear inspections.

The Biden's aren't the only one's with CCP ties, and it's a problem with leadership on both sides of the aisle being compromised by Beijing. If it was JUST Biden, it'd be one thing, but too many of the powers-that-be in DC are too compromised by Xi for me to trust they'll honor those treaties, instead of just lay on sanctions and maybe at best rushed arms deliveries.

I could see volunteer units saying 'fuck it' against the wishes of DC, but we aren't going to put a Tomahawk or 10 into the Three Gorges, even if Taipai is a radioactive crater or shelled to the point it looks like Bahkmut.

I trust the locals in Asia and their animosity to the CCP/historical China more than I trust DC's willingness to engage in direct peer-on-peer warfare. DC will sell weapons to our allies and feed them intel, but no overt, official actions that qualify as 'war shots' will be on the table unless the CCP strike the US mainland directly.

 

[Spartan303]

They just gave the Ayatollah a shit load of cash for hostages, and yet Tehran just Charlie-Brown'd them on blocking nuclear inspections.

The Biden's aren't the only one's with CCP ties, and it's a problem with leadership on both sides of the aisle being compromised by Beijing. If it was JUST Biden, it'd be one thing, but too many of the powers-that-be in DC are too compromised by Xi for me to trust they'll honor those treaties, instead of just lay on sanctions and maybe at best rushed arms deliveries.

I could see volunteer units saying 'fuck it' against the wishes of DC, but we aren't going to put a Tomahawk or 10 into the Three Gorges, even if Taipai is a radioactive crater or shelled to the point it looks like Bahkmut.

I trust the locals in Asia and their animosity to the CCP/historical China more than I trust DC's willingness to engage in direct peer-on-peer warfare. DC will sell weapons to our allies and feed them intel, but no overt, official actions that qualify as 'war shots' will be on the table unless the CCP strike the US mainland directly.

To be fair, nearly all the Democrats are big on sucking off Tehran for some reason. They think they can buy them off, which they can't. They tried that approach with Russia in the early 2000s and 10s and it didn't work. Notice how they changed strategy to something much more hostile when Russia wouldn't play the globalist ball. The moment it truly sinks in that Tehran isn't going to play ball either is when they'll want to Invade Iran. Which Trump exposed.

Now, before anyone gets upset, let me make myself very clear. I in no way support Russia nor the War in Ukraine. But I am not blind to the faults of our political elites who have consistently fucked up nearly every major situation from Vietnam to the Present. And they more than had a hand in creating the mess that caused the war.

 

[Bacle]

To be fair, nearly all the Democrats are big on sucking off Tehran for some reason. They think they can buy them off, which they can't. They tried that approach with Russia in the early 2000s and 10s and it didn't work. Notice how they changed strategy to something much more hostile when Russia wouldn't play the globalist ball. The moment it truly sinks in that Tehran isn't going to play ball either is when they'll want to Invade Iran. Which Trump exposed.

Now, before anyone gets upset, let me make myself very clear. I in no way support Russia nor the War in Ukraine. But I am not blind to the faults of our political elites who have consistently fucked up nearly every major situation from Vietnam to the Present. And they more than had a hand in creating the mess that caused the war.

I agree, the Dems have an obsession with trying to 'open up' Iran without removing the Ayatollah or IRGC.

However I doubt invasion is on the table, even for the Dems, if Tehran doesn't play ball.

At worst the Dems will put sanctions back on, but there is no way the Dems authorize even Preying Mantis 2.0, never mind a full invasion of Iran.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

I could see Operation Praying Mantis Part Duex!

 

[Marduk]

I agree, the Dems have an obsession with trying to 'open up' Iran without removing the Ayatollah or IRGC.

It's all about shady backroom politics.

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[ATP]

I agree, the Dems have an obsession with trying to 'open up' Iran without removing the Ayatollah or IRGC.

However I doubt invasion is on the table, even for the Dems, if Tehran doesn't play ball.

At worst the Dems will put sanctions back on, but there is no way the Dems authorize even Preying Mantis 2.0, never mind a full invasion of Iran.

Do not underestimate Dems.If there is something stupid which could be done,they probably would do it !

And,they had good tradition.After WW2 they could provoke war with soviets under pretext that they care about enslaved poland,and get entire world.
USA would be only global power now.

Instead,they decide to made deal with soviets,and later partitioned British and french colonial empires between themselves.

JFK was fully aware,that soviets had no more then 30 missiles capable of hitting USA,so he could burn them loosing no more then 20 cities.It would be worst for USA then burning Sralin,but they still would remain only world superpower.

Yet,he made another deal,fully aware,that soviets would break it.

Now,they send only old stuff to Ukraine,when 300 Abrams and 300 F16 send there year ago would arleady end war.

Not that i complain,Ukraine hate us more then Moscov,so they would attack us next.
But - USA could break Moscov,and refused to do so.