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The Whispering Monk said:
I don't think Biden et al. are that dumb. If they leave Taiwan hanging in the breeze...the USA's role as a world power comes crashing down. It'll take time, but it'll happen. Between what China will do to squeeze us, and every other power looking at USA like it's a leper colony. We'd be done, and the people in charge that made that decision would go down first.
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They just gave the Ayatollah a shit load of cash for hostages, and yet Tehran just Charlie-Brown'd them on blocking nuclear inspections.

The Biden's aren't the only one's with CCP ties, and it's a problem with leadership on both sides of the aisle being compromised by Beijing. If it was JUST Biden, it'd be one thing, but too many of the powers-that-be in DC are too compromised by Xi for me to trust they'll honor those treaties, instead of just lay on sanctions and maybe at best rushed arms deliveries.

I could see volunteer units saying 'fuck it' against the wishes of DC, but we aren't going to put a Tomahawk or 10 into the Three Gorges, even if Taipai is a radioactive crater or shelled to the point it looks like Bahkmut.

I trust the locals in Asia and their animosity to the CCP/historical China more than I trust DC's willingness to engage in direct peer-on-peer warfare. DC will sell weapons to our allies and feed them intel, but no overt, official actions that qualify as 'war shots' will be on the table unless the CCP strike the US mainland directly.
 
Bacle said:
They just gave the Ayatollah a shit load of cash for hostages, and yet Tehran just Charlie-Brown'd them on blocking nuclear inspections.

The Biden's aren't the only one's with CCP ties, and it's a problem with leadership on both sides of the aisle being compromised by Beijing. If it was JUST Biden, it'd be one thing, but too many of the powers-that-be in DC are too compromised by Xi for me to trust they'll honor those treaties, instead of just lay on sanctions and maybe at best rushed arms deliveries.

I could see volunteer units saying 'fuck it' against the wishes of DC, but we aren't going to put a Tomahawk or 10 into the Three Gorges, even if Taipai is a radioactive crater or shelled to the point it looks like Bahkmut.

I trust the locals in Asia and their animosity to the CCP/historical China more than I trust DC's willingness to engage in direct peer-on-peer warfare. DC will sell weapons to our allies and feed them intel, but no overt, official actions that qualify as 'war shots' will be on the table unless the CCP strike the US mainland directly.
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To be fair, nearly all the Democrats are big on sucking off Tehran for some reason. They think they can buy them off, which they can't. They tried that approach with Russia in the early 2000s and 10s and it didn't work. Notice how they changed strategy to something much more hostile when Russia wouldn't play the globalist ball. The moment it truly sinks in that Tehran isn't going to play ball either is when they'll want to Invade Iran. Which Trump exposed.

Now, before anyone gets upset, let me make myself very clear. I in no way support Russia nor the War in Ukraine. But I am not blind to the faults of our political elites who have consistently fucked up nearly every major situation from Vietnam to the Present. And they more than had a hand in creating the mess that caused the war.
 
Spartan303 said:
To be fair, nearly all the Democrats are big on sucking off Tehran for some reason. They think they can buy them off, which they can't. They tried that approach with Russia in the early 2000s and 10s and it didn't work. Notice how they changed strategy to something much more hostile when Russia wouldn't play the globalist ball. The moment it truly sinks in that Tehran isn't going to play ball either is when they'll want to Invade Iran. Which Trump exposed.

Now, before anyone gets upset, let me make myself very clear. I in no way support Russia nor the War in Ukraine. But I am not blind to the faults of our political elites who have consistently fucked up nearly every major situation from Vietnam to the Present. And they more than had a hand in creating the mess that caused the war.
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I agree, the Dems have an obsession with trying to 'open up' Iran without removing the Ayatollah or IRGC.

However I doubt invasion is on the table, even for the Dems, if Tehran doesn't play ball.

At worst the Dems will put sanctions back on, but there is no way the Dems authorize even Preying Mantis 2.0, never mind a full invasion of Iran.
 
Bacle said:
I agree, the Dems have an obsession with trying to 'open up' Iran without removing the Ayatollah or IRGC.

However I doubt invasion is on the table, even for the Dems, if Tehran doesn't play ball.

At worst the Dems will put sanctions back on, but there is no way the Dems authorize even Preying Mantis 2.0, never mind a full invasion of Iran.
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Do not underestimate Dems.If there is something stupid which could be done,they probably would do it !

And,they had good tradition.After WW2 they could provoke war with soviets under pretext that they care about enslaved poland,and get entire world.
USA would be only global power now.

Instead,they decide to made deal with soviets,and later partitioned British and french colonial empires between themselves.

JFK was fully aware,that soviets had no more then 30 missiles capable of hitting USA,so he could burn them loosing no more then 20 cities.It would be worst for USA then burning Sralin,but they still would remain only world superpower.

Yet,he made another deal,fully aware,that soviets would break it.

Now,they send only old stuff to Ukraine,when 300 Abrams and 300 F16 send there year ago would arleady end war.

Not that i complain,Ukraine hate us more then Moscov,so they would attack us next.
But - USA could break Moscov,and refused to do so.
 
Scottty said:
One wonders... are they deliberately trying to "start something" or are they just incapable of respecting national borders?
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Both, I think, but the latter especially.

In their eyes, it all belongs to them because "ancient claims mumble mumble". They're a country of arrogant, self-centered narcissists.

The only language they'd understand is being bitch-slapped.
 
Jormungandr said:
Both, I think, but the latter especially.

In their eyes, it all belongs to them because "ancient claims mumble mumble". They're a country of arrogant, self-centered narcissists.

The only language they'd understand is being bitch-slapped.
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Of course.

Why do you think one of the symbols of communism is a clenched fist? It’s both symbol and statement in their language.
 
Jormungandr said:
What, those six fishing boats were just blown up by a South Korean naval vessel, killing thirty fishermen? Oh dear, how sad; nevermind.

And we all know that those thirty "fishermen" were likely not fishermen anyway.
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A very old Polish joke had Moscow and Pekin both reporting transborder attacks against their "peaceful peasants" whose "farm machinery" responded to "Imperialist adventurist warmongering" by firing guided missiles in self defence ...
:p
 
Lord Sovereign said:
Of course.

Why do you think one of the symbols of communism is a clenched fist? It’s both symbol and statement in their language.
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Even Communist governments have historically shown the ability to recognize national borders and respect treaties.

I think that the Beijing regime has the same mental problem as the Washington DC Democrat regime: too much in their own bubble to understand, let alone respect, any boundaries or limitations on their political power. Can't actually do diplomacy, because that would require treating the other side as a party to be negotiated with.
So because they want some area of land to be part of Chinese territory, they will simply go ahead and act as if it is - and regard anyone who pushes back on that as being the aggressor.
 
I don't really think they want to start shit. All this BS is broadcasted back to their own as propaganda. They use it to build political stability in house. They just don't believe for a second there will ever be any consequences for their actions.
 
Jormungandr said:
Both, I think, but the latter especially.

In their eyes, it all belongs to them because "ancient claims mumble mumble". They're a country of arrogant, self-centered narcissists.

The only language they'd understand is being bitch-slapped.
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i read few books written about modern China by people who teach english there.
According to all of them,people there really belive that China is centrum of world,and they had rights to do whatever they like.
Well,not them,but party leaders,but you get it.

I think,that it is mix of Mao communism and old pride.They would keep pusching,till they take over world,start WW3 ,or both.
It seems,that we are all fucked ,no matter what would happen.

Personally,i hope for war - death from A-bomb should be nicer then gulag.
 
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Yinko said:
I don't really think they want to start shit. All this BS is broadcasted back to their own as propaganda. They use it to build political stability in house. They just don't believe for a second there will ever be any consequences for their actions.
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This. With how ballsy they've been lately it seems they're right. If we do get a Republican in office next year they are in for a rude awakening.
 
Poe said:
This. With how ballsy they've been lately it seems they're right. If we do get a Republican in office next year they are in for a rude awakening.
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And that is why deep state would try fake elections again.If they win,it would be end of Republic,and USA become another Venezuela.Interesting,where people from Venezuela would run then?
 
It may have been a firefighting drill. Not impossible, some previous firefighting drill of the PLAN have been quite smoky. Of course, the drill thing is being claimed by the Chinese. We should find out the truth somewhat soon.
 
gral said:
It may have been a firefighting drill. Not impossible, some previous firefighting drill of the PLAN have been quite smoky. Of course, the drill thing is being claimed by the Chinese. We should find out the truth somewhat soon.
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To achieve that amount of smoke as a drill, you'd probably have to have the entire deck covered in barrels of some sort of fuel or oil that was on fire. However, given that it's coming from three distinct points, we can tell that the fire is inside the ship. Smoke causes damage to man-made objects, causing issues with things like electrical wiring and other sensitive items. Basically, if this was a drill, and they did the drill by lighting smoky flames inside the bowels of the ship, then they might as well have just sunk it. It'd have been cheaper.
 
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