Disney is no long family OR How the Mouse broke the house

Jormungandr said:
Not surprising, given the horror stories about how much of a sham/con it is.
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I genuinely couldn't understand why it was so terrible. The concept isn't that hard, it's a hotel, a regular one. You just need a Star Wars-themed decor, the restaurant dyes the chicken nuggets purple and calls them "Zebrician Jungle Hawk Strips" or whatever, then the bar does the same thing with the beer and the waiters and bartenders are trained to tell curious customers "It's similar to an Earth Dish I've heard of called 'Chicken Nuggets.'" You have some "Astromechs" that are really just tarted-up Roombas patrolling the corridors and a couple dozen interns in Stormtrooper armor who do a lap once an hour. Save the more expensive makeup for the Concierge, Bartender, and a couple of similar folks who interact with the customers a lot but don't really touch them or do anything physical that would smear it, put some starship-themed uniforms on the bellhops (and maybe a mask on a couple of them) and you're set.


It might run thrice, perhaps four times what a normal hotel does for the bells and whistles but by all accounts the Star Wars hotel was running at ten-fifteen times the typical rate and the service was lousy with McDonald's-tier food and drink on top of it.

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Bear Ribs said:
I genuinely couldn't understand why it was so terrible. The concept isn't that hard, it's a hotel, a regular one. You just need a Star Wars-themed decor, the restaurant dyes the chicken nuggets purple and calls them "Zebrician Jungle Hawk Strips" or whatever, then the bar does the same thing with the beer and the waiters and bartenders are trained to tell curious customers "It's similar to an Earth Dish I've heard of called 'Chicken Nuggets.'" You have some "Astromechs" that are really just tarted-up Roombas patrolling the corridors and a couple dozen interns in Stormtrooper armor who do a lap once an hour. Save the more expensive makeup for the Concierge, Bartender, and a couple of similar folks who interact with the customers a lot but don't really touch them or do anything physical that would smear it, put some starship-themed uniforms on the bellhops (and maybe a mask on a couple of them) and you're set.


It might run thrice, perhaps four times what a normal hotel does for the bells and whistles but by all accounts the Star Wars hotel was running at ten-fifteen times the typical rate and the service was lousy with McDonald's-tier food and drink on top of it.

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Because the effort put into the hotel itself was as lazy as fuck -- it was literally done on the cheap both in budget and creatively.
The price per room/stay was also exorbitant to the point where over two-thirds of a family's budget for the holiday would've gone on the hotel stay alone -- they also increased prices post-COVID to try and recoup their losses/make some profit, but like all companies that try that dumb shit (train and bus tickets are notorious for this), all it did was alienate whatever customers left that would've considered a stay.

Basically, they screwed up from start to finish, and this sort of thing has become a hallmark of Disney in the last ten, fifteen years.
 
Bear Ribs said:
I genuinely couldn't understand why it was so terrible. The concept isn't that hard, it's a hotel, a regular one. You just need a Star Wars-themed decor, the restaurant dyes the chicken nuggets purple and calls them "Zebrician Jungle Hawk Strips" or whatever, then the bar does the same thing with the beer and the waiters and bartenders are trained to tell curious customers "It's similar to an Earth Dish I've heard of called 'Chicken Nuggets.'" You have some "Astromechs" that are really just tarted-up Roombas patrolling the corridors and a couple dozen interns in Stormtrooper armor who do a lap once an hour. Save the more expensive makeup for the Concierge, Bartender, and a couple of similar folks who interact with the customers a lot but don't really touch them or do anything physical that would smear it, put some starship-themed uniforms on the bellhops (and maybe a mask on a couple of them) and you're set.


It might run thrice, perhaps four times what a normal hotel does for the bells and whistles but by all accounts the Star Wars hotel was running at ten-fifteen times the typical rate and the service was lousy with McDonald's-tier food and drink on top of it.

In other news...
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It was 6k a night, more than most Disney cruise ship packages are for the whole thing, and apparently was almost a forced LARP due to the rigid schedule/structure of the place, with guest having to complete 'quests' to actually get the whole experience.
 
Bacle said:
It was 6k a night, more than most Disney cruise ship packages are for the whole thing, and apparently was almost a forced LARP due to the rigid schedule/structure of the place, with guest having to complete 'quests' to actually get the whole experience.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about the LARP'ing shit, too.

It twists from a "cute bit of fun" to "holy fuck I do not want to do this shit, just give me my fucking XX that I paid money for" and "Jesus Christ, hurry up! My kids won't stop fucking screaming and I have no time to do your weeb shit".
 
Bacle said:
It was 6k a night, more than most Disney cruise ship packages are for the whole thing, and apparently was almost a forced LARP due to the rigid schedule/structure of the place, with guest having to complete 'quests' to actually get the whole experience.
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I know it was that awful, as I said I'm just mystified as to why. I mean, it's not quite at "actual trip to space" expensive but the cost-cutting they did is just eyebrow-raising, my first guess with the facts in evidence would be that either they deliberately wanted the hotel to fail or somebody was embezzling on a grand scale. I'm no expert in the hotel business but seeing how it was run, to me, is like seeing an experienced doctor forgetting to wash his hands before surgery, or a veteran sergeant who doesn't actually know how to load his rifle. The mistakes are really, really obvious and shouldn't be the kinds of screwups a company with that much experience is making.

For how much it cost they should have been able to put in stuff like actual working flight simulators for kids to attack the death star in and the like, rather than providing 2-star hotel accommodations. Your average Motel 6 manager could probably provide a better experience with more Star Wars for a third of the cost.
 
I think it was intentional. They wanted to see how hard they could fuck customers and get away with it.

I'll say this, to me wanting to go to Disneyland is literally an instant relationship ender for me.
 
Most of the adults who still love Disney seem to be purely as nostalgia for reasoning. They believe it will capture that same feeling they had as kids. Many are desperate for that relief, especially today, and so are willing to throw money at Disney.
 
If Disney really wanted ot make something back off this, they should just sell it to Bethesda and let them use it as the bones of a Fallout-Vault themed hotel.

It already looks more like a Vault-Tech Vault than a spaceship.
 
Bear Ribs said:
I know it was that awful, as I said I'm just mystified as to why. I mean, it's not quite at "actual trip to space" expensive but the cost-cutting they did is just eyebrow-raising, my first guess with the facts in evidence would be that either they deliberately wanted the hotel to fail or somebody was embezzling on a grand scale. I'm no expert in the hotel business but seeing how it was run, to me, is like seeing an experienced doctor forgetting to wash his hands before surgery, or a veteran sergeant who doesn't actually know how to load his rifle. The mistakes are really, really obvious and shouldn't be the kinds of screwups a company with that much experience is making.

For how much it cost they should have been able to put in stuff like actual working flight simulators for kids to attack the death star in and the like, rather than providing 2-star hotel accommodations. Your average Motel 6 manager could probably provide a better experience with more Star Wars for a third of the cost.
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Thing is though, Disney doesn't have that experience anymore; they got rid of the people with it so that they could hire more political activists.
 

Tl;DW - Razorfist discusses how Disney has been taken over by communists, and some of the history there with Walt himself and how his anti-communism and attempt to stop communists from taking over his animators' union is the origin of his alleged antisemitism.
 
I know this is an old thread but I thought this would be the best place for this.



This video goes over a forensic accountant investigation it’s pretty crazy kind of dry but well worth a watch

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Bombshell Audit: Disney Scammed Its Way Into An Unaccountable Empire

Little did too-big-to-fail Disney know it was no match for DeSantis — or that its gay agenda would be the beginning of its end.
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thatparkplace.com

Legal Expert And Analyst Alleges The Walt Disney Company Committed At Least A Dozen Potential Crimes Based On New Audit

Legal Mindset’s Andrew Esquire dropped a big summary of the many malfeasances of the Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Walt Disney Company. When the
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some articles


also here’s a link to the report


pretty crazy stuff
 
Big companies over there seem to be able to get away with loads of illegal stuff, as long as they are careful not to antagonize people with the power to do something about it.
 
The Whispering Monk said:
Most of the adults who still love Disney seem to be purely as nostalgia for reasoning. They believe it will capture that same feeling they had as kids. Many are desperate for that relief, especially today, and so are willing to throw money at Disney.
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The Disney Channel isn't much better either from the way it used to be back in the day.
 
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