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worked fine...

What constitutes 'working fine' for this?
Ancient Egypt?

Also, we do still know the Greek names of gods like Zeus, Mesopotamian gods like Taimat, and of course the Norse gods like Thor.

All these groups had functional, lasting societies as part of what created them/worshiped them, but acknowledged the gods could be assholes and saints too.

Which is one of the things that makes the Abrahamic faiths rather unique from many others that have existed and still exist.
 

ATP

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It is the inevitable result of rejecting the existence of a transcendent source of moral authority. If there's a time in the 20th or 21st century, hell even during the French Revolution in the 19th, where this rejection of higher authority didn't result in the rejection of fundamental human value, I haven't heard of it.
Indeed.If there is no God,then we should try to made heaven here,on Earth.And it means removing those people who in our opinion prevent that.
Killing poor or ill is logical approach here.
There is cruel joke about that - that our "enlinghtened" elites answer to hunger and homeless is let hungry eat homeless.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
India seemed to be working perfectly well with "your current life is a barely relevant rounding error in the midst of aeons of torment and the best thing to do is to cease existing" being an extremely prevalent viewpoint. And the old blood-money practices are a rather major departure from your ahistorical farce of a glorified past.

The problem is thoughtlessly rejecting received wisdom without the legwork to replace it. Nothing more special than that, and there's absolutely nothing making secular humanism impossible to get as robust as the old religions.

And the moment the Problem of Evil comes up, the thing you're calling necessary as Christianity has it has its days numbered, because explaining it is monstrously excessive for the vast majority of people.

To say nothing of the horrid bullshit it introduces for distant foreigners and the pre-Christian world. The entire idea of "Virtuous Pagans" has zero scriptural basis, but needed to exist to not have the extremely vast majority of humans be fully damned solely by accident of birth, including the very people who handed down the ethical system that diverged Christanity from Judaism.

Funfamentally, Christianity is exceptionally poor under scruitiny, because it has too many trivial questions with absurdly complicated answers. "The divine is just Really Powerful rulers and/or embodiments of natural forces perfectly able to be unreasonable jackasses just like us" worked fine for the millennia prior to Christianity.

This shows little except for your own lack of understanding of Christian theology, or the problems with secular humanism. 'Virtuous Pagans' is a niche concept within Christianity, one that you rightly say has zero scriptural basis; I'm not sure why you even brought it up.

Also, Hinduism believes in a form of transcendent morality. Certainly not the same kind as Christianity, but it does. Even then, Hinduism has both done better than atheism, and yet still has been very harsh to the majority of its practitioners.

If you want to discuss theology at length and/or the lies that secular humanism is built upon, there are other threads for that.
 

mrttao

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Something worth noting is that people who need assistance to commit suicide are in literally living hell. They are so disabled they cannot even cut them themselves with a knife. They can't go "give me a fruit and a sharp knife, I want to film myself eating for my kids" and then film a suicide note and cut themselves... no, they are far too disabled to do that.

That the rat bastards are forcing healthy old people into it is very angering. But not allowing it at all is on the other side of fucked up

How about we allow people to escape never-ending torment of a failed body and ALSO execute anyone who abuses the elderly specifically to drive them to suicide? Not everything has to be a ridiculous debate.
 

Wargamer08

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Something worth noting is that people who need assistance to commit suicide are in literally living hell. They are so disabled they cannot even cut them themselves with a knife. They can't go "give me a fruit and a sharp knife, I want to film myself eating for my kids" and then film a suicide note and cut themselves... no, they are far too disabled to do that.

That the rat bastards are forcing healthy old people into it is very angering. But not allowing it at all is on the other side of fucked up

How about we allow people to escape never-ending torment of a failed body and ALSO execute anyone who abuses the elderly specifically to drive them to suicide? Not everything has to be a ridiculous debate.
The issue is that legalizing one enables the other.
 

Skitzyfrenic

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Someone didn't push the cleaner out of the pouching machine before they started.

I used to work for Woodchuck Hard Cider in VT (It's actually really good. Their Fall and Winter seasonals are probably the best) doing 3rd shift sanitation. And forgetting to purge the cleaner would definitely result in that happening. Probably forgot to twist the valve open one day, and a couple thousand were filled with acidic cleaner.

I've did the opposite once. There was a lot of booze wasted that morning.
 

King Arts

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India seemed to be working perfectly well with "your current life is a barely relevant rounding error in the midst of aeons of torment and the best thing to do is to cease existing" being an extremely prevalent viewpoint. And the old blood-money practices are a rather major departure from your ahistorical farce of a glorified past.

The problem is thoughtlessly rejecting received wisdom without the legwork to replace it. Nothing more special than that, and there's absolutely nothing making secular humanism impossible to get as robust as the old religions.

And the moment the Problem of Evil comes up, the thing you're calling necessary as Christianity has it has its days numbered, because explaining it is monstrously excessive for the vast majority of people.

To say nothing of the horrid bullshit it introduces for distant foreigners and the pre-Christian world. The entire idea of "Virtuous Pagans" has zero scriptural basis, but needed to exist to not have the extremely vast majority of humans be fully damned solely by accident of birth, including the very people who handed down the ethical system that diverged Christanity from Judaism.

Funfamentally, Christianity is exceptionally poor under scruitiny, because it has too many trivial questions with absurdly complicated answers. "The divine is just Really Powerful rulers and/or embodiments of natural forces perfectly able to be unreasonable jackasses just like us" worked fine for the millennia prior to Christianity.
Meh Zoroastrian dualism seems more intuitive than paganism. There is one god who is good but his equal opposite is the devil.
 

PsihoKekec

Swashbuckling Accountant
Whitey gets the axe first

An agreement between the Minneapolis Federation of Teachers union and the school district states that White teachers will be laid off before teachers of color, regardless of their seniority.

The agreement, which was reached to end a two-week teacher strike last spring, says that starting this school year, "if excessing a teacher who is a member of a population underrepresented among licensed teachers in the site, the district shall excess the next least senior teacher, who is not a member of an underrepresented population."

Excessing teachers is the process by which staff are reduced at a particular school due to a drop in enrollment, funding or other reasons.

Funny thing is that those fired under the race firing protocols probably won't dare to complain about being fired, for fear of being called racist, which would void their woke ally status.

I wonder though, if they fire enough chalkies for formerly underrepresented population to become overrepresented, will they start firing non-chalkies as well? Who am I kidding, of course they wouldn't.
 

Cherico

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Whitey gets the axe first



Funny thing is that those fired under the race firing protocols probably won't dare to complain about being fired, for fear of being called racist, which would void their woke ally status.

I wonder though, if they fire enough chalkies for formerly underrepresented population to become overrepresented, will they start firing non-chalkies as well? Who am I kidding, of course they wouldn't.

I honestly think we've hit the hight of the woke movement.

Its quite simply put pissed off too many people quite a few of them powerful and has been kicking people nonstop for over a decade. Their building the coalition and movement that will destroy them.
 

ATP

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I honestly think we've hit the hight of the woke movement.

Its quite simply put pissed off too many people quite a few of them powerful and has been kicking people nonstop for over a decade. Their building the coalition and movement that will destroy them.

True,if they want win elections.
If they manage to turn USA into banana republic,that would be no problem.Ruling party would rule no matter what commoners are thinking.
Or,it could be worst - they have plan to turn USA into commie state.In tat case,surviving commoners would shouting "long live leader"
 

Rocinante

Russian Bot
Founder
I honestly think we've hit the hight of the woke movement.

Its quite simply put pissed off too many people quite a few of them powerful and has been kicking people nonstop for over a decade. Their building the coalition and movement that will destroy them.
Yeah, no.

If the majority of teachers are white, then it was mostly white teachers who had to push for this.

They think they're doing something good, and it feels good to them.

This is where "politics as religion" comes in to play. Because our minds are built for religion. Religious based sacrifice feels good, feels spiritual and holy.

This is a form of religious sacrifice.

It's just more of their religion, that's all.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
Whitey gets the axe first



Funny thing is that those fired under the race firing protocols probably won't dare to complain about being fired, for fear of being called racist, which would void their woke ally status.

I wonder though, if they fire enough chalkies for formerly underrepresented population to become overrepresented, will they start firing non-chalkies as well? Who am I kidding, of course they wouldn't.
It's nice to know that all those anti-discrimination laws can just be ignored with zero consequences. :cautious:
 

The Whispering Monk

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Osaul
Whitey gets the axe first



Funny thing is that those fired under the race firing protocols probably won't dare to complain about being fired, for fear of being called racist, which would void their woke ally status.

I wonder though, if they fire enough chalkies for formerly underrepresented population to become overrepresented, will they start firing non-chalkies as well? Who am I kidding, of course they wouldn't.
Define racist.
 

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