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A vaccine is not a cure. Why are you trying to combine those two concepts now?

Vaccines are preventative. A cure is something you take after getting sick to treat the symptoms.

These are not the same.
Vaccines can help orevent and even cause them not to happen, depending on the vaccine.
 
There are literal Antivaxxers on this thread, and in a majority? No wonder we are losing in the West.

At this point, I'm convinced half of you are just dead weight that keeps 90% of the public from taking us seriously. The average educated man sees some whacko talking about how vaccines will kill everyone any day now or cause autism, sees that it obviously hasn't, and then mentally slots all Conservatives as "crazy people" and moves one step closer to the Left.

And to make things worse, I don't see any way to change you. So looks like we can only delay defeat for the time being.
 
Shrug. I think the concept behind vaccines is fine.

I just don't trust the people making the vaccines or what they claim after covid. They destroyed any faith I had in them.

If people still want to have whatever injected into them after that I wish them the best.
And there you have lost most of the First World.
 
I guess we'll see in a few years who was right or not.
No, we won't. Remember all that screaming about how Covid vaccines will lead to massive dieoffs? Nothing like that happened, but the screamers never learnt from that.

Nobody ever learns when the apocalypses they preached about never come to be. Nobody ever admits they were proven wrong. Nobody ever accepts the results of an experiment if they prove they were wrong.

What will happen is that the Left will just become more and more powerful until they finally clash with the Neoliberals. After that, God alone knows.
 
No, we won't. Remember all that screaming about how Covid vaccines will lead to massive dieoffs? Nothing like that happened, but the screamers never learnt from that.
Massive heart problem spikes? Massive cancer rate spikes? Massive miscarriage spikes? Young people dying at a much higher rate than before?

I guess nothing like that happened. Silly me.

Well I guess in several years we can look back on this and laugh at how foolish I was.
 
There are literal Antivaxxers on this thread, and in a majority? No wonder we are losing in the West.

At this point, I'm convinced half of you are just dead weight that keeps 90% of the public from taking us seriously. The average educated man sees some whacko talking about how vaccines will kill everyone any day now or cause autism, sees that it obviously hasn't, and then mentally slots all Conservatives as "crazy people" and moves one step closer to the Left.

And to make things worse, I don't see any way to change you. So looks like we can only delay defeat for the time being.
Nobody takes your blatantly obvious attempts at concern trolling seriously.
 
There are literal Antivaxxers on this thread, and in a majority? No wonder we are losing in the West.

At this point, I'm convinced half of you are just dead weight that keeps 90% of the public from taking us seriously. The average educated man sees some whacko talking about how vaccines will kill everyone any day now or cause autism, sees that it obviously hasn't, and then mentally slots all Conservatives as "crazy people" and moves one step closer to the Left.

And to make things worse, I don't see any way to change you. So looks like we can only delay defeat for the time being.
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Thanks, much appreciated. I'm starved for some honest discourse.
The lack of this.

A few years ago, there were more people interested in debate on this forum, and a lower proportion of black-pilled doom-posting and shit-flinging. You've unfortunately come in after most of the more thoughtful posters have either reduced their activity levels, or just left outright.

I used to read basically every post on every thread (discounting 49ers pseudo-spam threads); now, I skip past a lot of stuff because it's the same half-dozen people retreading the same points, or someone who joined/became more active a couple months ago and mostly just hysterically posts.

If you want more honest and interesting discourse, I'd recommend you actually post less, and certainly don't post like the first post I quoted. Engaging the people who are beyond reasoning with isn't productive, and poking them like that just sets off more hysterics.

Some of the posters (like Zachowon) if you can engage them one on one, more carefully, patiently, and thoughtfully, you can get some interesting discussion, though it can really try your patience with how lazy he is about spelling and grammar. Interruptions from the black-pillers and hysterical types can derail that pretty fast though.

As I've said before, most conservatives, as opposed to black-pilled reactionaries who don't like leftism but don't have a coherent ideology of their own, don't have the time or interest to be on an internet forum in the first place, and those that do crop up here, don't post anywhere near as much as the types struggling to find something meaningful in their lives.
 
Yes. But a cure is something different. Like I said.

You seem to be trying to imply Zeno is against medicine entirely and not just unnecessary vaccines.
Vaccines like the Polio and Smallpox ones help prevent you from getting it ay all.
But I did not mean to come off that way.
There are literal Antivaxxers on this thread, and in a majority? No wonder we are losing in the West.

At this point, I'm convinced half of you are just dead weight that keeps 90% of the public from taking us seriously. The average educated man sees some whacko talking about how vaccines will kill everyone any day now or cause autism, sees that it obviously hasn't, and then mentally slots all Conservatives as "crazy people" and moves one step closer to the Left.

And to make things worse, I don't see any way to change you. So looks like we can only delay defeat for the time being.
You just have to wade through to find good honest debates here.
I and a few others will take on the wadding often times. Like the poster below, he does that often.
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The lack of this.

A few years ago, there were more people interested in debate on this forum, and a lower proportion of black-pilled doom-posting and shit-flinging. You've unfortunately come in after most of the more thoughtful posters have either reduced their activity levels, or just left outright.

I used to read basically every post on every thread (discounting 49ers pseudo-spam threads); now, I skip past a lot of stuff because it's the same half-dozen people retreading the same points, or someone who joined/became more active a couple months ago and mostly just hysterically posts.

If you want more honest and interesting discourse, I'd recommend you actually post less, and certainly don't post like the first post I quoted. Engaging the people who are beyond reasoning with isn't productive, and poking them like that just sets off more hysterics.

Some of the posters (like Zachowon) if you can engage them one on one, more carefully, patiently, and thoughtfully, you can get some interesting discussion, though it can really try your patience with how lazy he is about spelling and grammar. Interruptions from the black-pillers and hysterical types can derail that pretty fast though.

As I've said before, most conservatives, as opposed to black-pilled reactionaries who don't like leftism but don't have a coherent ideology of their own, don't have the time or interest to be on an internet forum in the first place, and those that do crop up here, don't post anywhere near as much as the types struggling to find something meaningful in their lives.
I am just lazy, and have less time then I used too.
 
This arguments if "vaccines" are good or bad...
You can have good vaccines, you can have bad vaccines.
When the industry was less corrupt we had good vaccines. They were science first and well tested for efficacy and safety.
Now we have bad vaccines. They get in through bribes or gaslighting, are untested, are unsafe, and don't even protect you from the disease they claim to.

At the moment, I would not trust any vaccine because of how shitty and corrupt everything is. But this is not because I am "antivax". it is because phrama and FDA are shitty and corrupt. If we can clean them up to a satisfactory level I would go back to vaccinating.
 

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