United States George Floyd Protests, Reactions and Riots

CarlManvers2019

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A cop has to make the money

What do the people being arrested for defending themselves do? Even if they get released, they won’t be there to prevent further destruction of property and those rioters will have freedom to do shit for another few months and maybe when a new bunch of riots occur

I know you guys say I’m being a doomer, but I know they’ll be doing another bunch of riots the moment Trump wins

And it’s still gonna take awhile to redpill enough people to change government policy even on a local level
 

Von_Lohengram

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They're just following orders.

Even the Nazi's had family and friends they were looking after.
German cops under Nazi rule didn't have powerful Public Sector Unions protecting them from retaliation if they refuse an order that goes against their conscience. Or a media landscape where at least a few anti-Nazi voices would help them tell their side of the story.
I find it very hard to believe that if a cop in a Blue City in the US would refuse to arrest someone who'd shot and killed some AnteFa stormtrooper who was assaulting them, they could just be fired on the spot without recourse.
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
A cop has to make the money

You're both doing a poor job of trying to defend your position, and a poor job of maintaining your credibility with arguments like this.

If a cop has reasonable reason to know that by arresting someone, when that arrest is for unjust cause, they will be exposing them to financial ruin, including having their homes and/or vehicles destroyed, 'the cop needs a paycheck' is not a valid defense.

To be clear, I in-general support the police, but I am quite aware that like any other group or organization, it is comprised of fallible human beings. Arresting someone who defended themselves, but not their assailants, is extremely unjust.
 

Zachowon

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You're both doing a poor job of trying to defend your position, and a poor job of maintaining your credibility with arguments like this.

If a cop has reasonable reason to know that by arresting someone, when that arrest is for unjust cause, they will be exposing them to financial ruin, including having their homes and/or vehicles destroyed, 'the cop needs a paycheck' is not a valid defense.

To be clear, I in-general support the police, but I am quite aware that like any other group or organization, it is comprised of fallible human beings. Arresting someone who defended themselves, but not their assailants, is extremely unjust.
My argument was never about that until it seemed I was being canalized into kt
 

Hlaalu Agent

Nerevar going to let you down
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A cop has to make the money

Everyone has to eat, it doesn't mean we aren't accountable for how we earn our daily bread.

basically, either a cop does their job and then less cops go out as more get injured or killed, or they don't (well be told not too) and go on to work another day and not have to worry about the life as they know that should trump win they will have help

That assumes the people they let down are going to be in a forgiving mood.
 

Zachowon

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Everyone has to eat, it doesn't mean we aren't accountable for how we earn our daily bread.



That assumes the people they let down are going to be in a forgiving mood.
Again! My arguments are for why they aren't going to be preventing these riots when told not too...

You are saying you would rather be beaten, or killed, and most liekly lose anything your family would get any other time this happens because you would rather stop a riot disobeying orders....
 

LordsFire

Internet Wizard
Again! My arguments are for why they aren't going to be preventing these riots when told not too...

You are saying you would rather be beaten, or killed, and most liekly lose anything your family would get any other time this happens because you would rather stop a riot disobeying orders....

This is a better point than it seemed like you were making at first. I would recommend you strive to be clearer the first time around. It helps avoid these sorts of painful misunderstandings.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
Again! My arguments are for why they aren't going to be preventing these riots when told not too...

You are saying you would rather be beaten, or killed, and most liekly lose anything your family would get any other time this happens because you would rather stop a riot disobeying orders....
This is a better point than it seemed like you were making at first. I would recommend you strive to be clearer the first time around. It helps avoid these sorts of painful misunderstandings.

In the end there's a conflict of interests, for both the cops and those against the Far Left's insanity or just defending themselves

Hopefully the cops eventually get told NOT to arrest those defending themselves at the very least, but that may require a change in politicians and city/state governments
 

Duke Nukem

Hail to the king baby
Again! My arguments are for why they aren't going to be preventing these riots when told not too...

You are saying you would rather be beaten, or killed, and most liekly lose anything your family would get any other time this happens because you would rather stop a riot disobeying orders....
Still does not excuse the fact that they arrest people who defend themselves from these lunatics.
 

CarlManvers2019

Writers Blocked Douchebag
Still does not excuse the fact that they arrest people who defend themselves from these lunatics.

Maybe it'd be way better to do an underground resistance, though it won't be around in time to stop said lunatics from attacking and wrecking people and their stuff
 

Zachowon

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Still does not excuse the fact that they arrest people who defend themselves from these lunatics.
Why the hell are we bringing that up when my argument has tried to remain revolving around the officers around the riots....
 

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