Gun Political Issues Megathread. (Control for or Against?)
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I think it only stands for that district (assuming it's not overturned on appeal), but it creates a circuit split that means someone else can take a bump-stock case to SCOTUS on those grounds.
Yinko
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Exactly. Here's my question though, will this result in guns no longer being a partisan issue? I mean, before it was basically split along party lines, but now you have middle-class white women arming up, black dudes, east Asians, and pretty much every other demographic jumping on the band wagon. If the Democrats see that cracking down on guns is suddenly going to make them unpopular with their new gun-owning constituents, that might swing the entire edifice in the other direction.
Bear Ribs
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Pretty much the only reason it's a partisan issue now is Michael Bloomberg, who acts as a gatekeeper to the Democratic party and hates guns more than the Pope hates Sin. You see plenty of gun-loving Democrats at lower levels but as soon as they reach the point that they get Bloomberg's attention they either suddenly discover a massive hatred of guns or get excommunicated by the DNC. As long as Bloomberg is in the position he's in of being incredibly wealthy and influential, to the point of steering the entire party like a rudder, guns will continue to be partisan. Just look at the situation in Virginia where Bloomberg poured millions into electing legislators, all of whom suddenly realized how much a gun ban should be their first priority.
That's not to say no other democrats hate guns but none of them have so much money and influence. Until Bloomberg retires or passes away, guns will continue to be partisan because he makes it too expensive for a Democrat to vote against any gun control bill.
East Asians have always been pretty well armed.
Remember the roof Koreans back in the 1990s?
LindyAF
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I doubt it. Obviously I'm biased, so take with a grain of salt, but the extent to which gun ownership is "diversifying" is mostly a fantasy by White conservative and libertarian gun owners, rather than reality. Exceptions exist, obviously, but I doubt demographics of gun owners look too much different in 2021 than they did pre-corona.
My guess is that the middle-class White Women who are armed are already fairly right-wing. Women are more liberal than Men, but the extent to which this is true is often overstated, and married women with children typically vote the same way their husband does.
PeaceMaker 03
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Half the time I think the 2nd amendment arguments are “ stray voltage” to distract from the utter lack of recognition of the 10th amendment by the federal government.
Under the 10th amendment, the EPA, ATF, Education department, etc, etc...... All should not even exist.
Most of which would not have even come about if it was not for FDR. He changed how the federal government operated.
If I remember my poly sci it was something like “ picket fence doctrine” FDR declared it was not the executive branches remit to only sign constitutional legislation, but to sign legislation and the courts will figure it out.
-- Which violates the oath to uphold the Constitution.
-- The executive branch can fight for blatantly unconstitutional laws all the way up to SCOTUS, yet SCOTUS can ignore or proceed with court cases that are constitutionally related or not.
-- No forcing function on SCOTUS to act on behalf of the people.
-- SCOTUS has in the past has deemed something constitutional (NFA is a constitutional restriction on saw-off shotguns, because it is not militarily useful),
While completely ignoring the fact that the NFA also restricts automatic weapons and suppressors which have been used in common military use for a century.
-- Any case covering the unconstitutional aspects of the NFA have been ignored by the SCOTUS.
Under the 10th amendment, the EPA, ATF, Education department, etc, etc...... All should not even exist.
Most of which would not have even come about if it was not for FDR. He changed how the federal government operated.
If I remember my poly sci it was something like “ picket fence doctrine” FDR declared it was not the executive branches remit to only sign constitutional legislation, but to sign legislation and the courts will figure it out.
-- Which violates the oath to uphold the Constitution.
-- The executive branch can fight for blatantly unconstitutional laws all the way up to SCOTUS, yet SCOTUS can ignore or proceed with court cases that are constitutionally related or not.
-- No forcing function on SCOTUS to act on behalf of the people.
-- SCOTUS has in the past has deemed something constitutional (NFA is a constitutional restriction on saw-off shotguns, because it is not militarily useful),
While completely ignoring the fact that the NFA also restricts automatic weapons and suppressors which have been used in common military use for a century.
-- Any case covering the unconstitutional aspects of the NFA have been ignored by the SCOTUS.
Seems worth a discussion thread of its own.
Comments like that really tick me off, much more so than the usual ignorance (EG, shoulder that goes up). Crow was in Afghanistan, he knows what the difference is between an M4 and an AR-15, and yet conflates the two by calling the latter a "weapon of war" while knowing it is no such thing and has never been used as a service weapon by any miltary anywhere on earth.
King Arts
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Isn’t the AR15 the civilian version of the M16 and its difference is that the AR does not have a full auto mode?
Yes.
Typhonis
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The M-16 was developed from the AR series, developed by Stoner, which first appeared in the late 50's.
prinCZess
Warrior, Writer, Performer, Perv
...It's just a rumor, and has probably been in the works for a while considering the number of states slowly-adopting marijuana medically or recreationally, but optics-wise...
Well...
I'm just saying that maybe things would get helped along for gun-rights here in the US if we elected a President whose son 3d-printed fully-automatic machine-guns and fabricated light artillery-pieces for private sale to fund his drug habit.
Bear Ribs
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Iowa has become the 11th constitutional carry state.
www.legis.iowa.gov
www.kcrg.com
It's amazing how dishonest people are being about this bill.
Iowa Legislature - BillBook
Information pertaining to the Iowa Legislature as well as the Executive and Judicial branch in as much as they relate to the legislative branch
Governor Reynolds signs controversial Iowa gun bill into law
House File 756 eliminates the requirement for a permit to purchase a handgun, but federal background checks would still be required by licensed dealers.
www.kcrg.com
It's amazing how dishonest people are being about this bill.
Iowa Democratic Party Chair Representative Ross Wilburn said:
The Actual Law Says said:
Im actually for this development.
The police showed during the riots that they will let black communities burn rather then do anything. So people clearly need to be able to defend themselves and their property.
Man pulls concealed carry weapon in gun-free mall to defend family and bystanders during shooting - Washington Examiner
A father pulled out his concealed carry weapon in a weapons-free Nebraska mall to protect his family and others when a fatal shooting unfolded. "Every indication said our lives were in danger, and I was going to do everything in my power to make sure we got out of there OK,” Scott Tafoya...
www.washingtonexaminer.com
Some Gangbanger or Pimp will now be prevented from partying like it's 1799 on the mean streets of British North America.
The Lobsterbacks will brook no harlotry, wenching, brigandry nor knavery on their watch!
The Lobsterbacks will brook no harlotry, wenching, brigandry nor knavery on their watch!
This is the gayest of ops.
Either that or the Toronto Pigs are out hastling grandpas for their replicas.