Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

[Tiamat]

To be fair, it is mostly jews controlling the west and inflicting the various woke horrors on it (trans kids, rapefugees, etc). and most jews in the west support this.

This is not a sustainable thing.
Our stupid tribesmates are dragging us down with them. And they are doing it all in the name of protecting the oligarch's interest, rather than their own interest. As the commoner gola jew is just as fucked over. But then again, they were indoctrinated through the same public school system.

We fancy ourselves a race of geniuses when we are just as prone to being gullible NPCs. Easily manipulated by the oligarchs.
We need to clean house just as much.

We need to stop screaming antisemitism and blood libel every time a jewish oligarch does something heinous. Because doing so is actually creating anti-Semites. as other people see that we support our oligarchs no matter how evil they are, and therefore the commoner jew "must be part of the problem".

This fight against antisemitism is done in the dumbest way possible (and I am half convinced this is on purpose). in a way that results in a powerful Cobra Effect.

So, in one post, you're claiming the fight against antisemetism "is done in the dumbest way possible", and in the very same post, claim Jews are controlling the West by using "rapefugees, trans kids" etc. as weapons. Oh, and you claim "we should stop screaming anti-Semitism every time a Jewish oligarch does something heinous."

Way to go there, thanks for showing everyone what a genuine unhinged anti-semite you really are.

Speaking of... blackrock owns everything.
Most worldwide corporations.
Most of USA land, especially farmland.
Most of USA single family homes. (which are in turn rented out to commoners)

All of it is owned by blackrock and vanguard. Who are in turn umbrella corporations owned by the USA oligarchs. which is where they have been funneling the vast sums of money they have been stealing from the american public

All of it is owned by Blackrock and Vanguard?? Gee, good thing I've got an investment portfolio in Vanguard then! Guess that makes me an evil American oligarch myself.

 

[King Arts]

So, in one post, you're claiming the fight against antisemetism "is done in the dumbest way possible", and in the very same post, claim Jews are controlling the West by using "rapefugees, trans kids" etc. as weapons. Oh, and you claim "we should stop screaming anti-Semitism every time a Jewish oligarch does something heinous."

Way to go there, thanks for showing everyone what a genuine unhinged anti-semite you really are.

Going to call a Jew an anti semite? Gosh Israel supporters are no diffrent than liberals. The left has blacks as their sacred cow, the neo con evangelical idolaters have Jews.

Edit: I remember @mrttao saying he is Jewish ethnically. If I'm wrong then I'm sorry.

 

[mrttao]

No, they don't. That's the terrifying thing, and why bureaucrats are more terrifying than politicians.

Explain which ideology exactly involves using massive amounts of graft to self enrich as a robber baron?

Also, I find it telling that while I discuss % distribution of different positions (useful idiots, altruistic moral busybodies, opportunists, liars, just in it for the perks, and various other types)

It would be far less stupid if you disagreed with me about the exact %s.
But you insist 100% of all rulers in human history are just really selfless altruistic people who "just want what is best for the people" and simply disagree on how they can self sacrifice for the greater good today. which is beyond stupid.

Joseph Stalin and Adolf Hitler both sat at the absolute top of their pyramids, held absolute power that has yet to be equalled, and ruled empires of death and misery. And yet, the reality is that they both really believed in their respective ideologies. Hitler's actions in particular make no goddamn sense if he didn't believe in a Global Jewish Conspiracy.

The idea that leaders are somehow better, that they somehow can avoid falling into the trap of ideology unlike stupid sheeple? It's an error committed again and again.

Not buying into the idealogy does not make them "better".
If anything, I would argue it makes them worse.

There is a filtering process when climbing up the ranks of political office.
where altruistic true believers simply have a much harder time climbing up the ladder of power.
To reach the top positions usually requires a large degree of selfishness.

Hitler is the exception, not the rule.
I explicitly acknowledged that some leaders do truly believe they are acting solely for the greater good. But that is really small percentage.

 

[mrttao]

Going to call a Jew an anti semite? Gosh Israel supporters are no diffrent than liberals. The left has blacks as their sacred cow, the neo con evangelical idolaters have Jews.

Edit: I remember @mrttao saying he is Jewish ethnically. If I'm wrong then I'm sorry.

I am jewish, yes.
Born in Israel. Entire extended family is jewish.

 

[Abhorsen]

Explain which ideology exactly involves using massive amounts of graft to self enrich as a robber baron?

None, that's a biproduct most of the times. I could give a rats ass about the corruption of money. The issue is when they 'help' us.

But you insist 100% of all rulers in human history are just really selfless altruistic people who "just want what is best for the people" and simply disagree on how they can self sacrifice for the greater good today. which is beyond stupid.

First, I never said 100%. I specifically pointed out corrupt dictators as an example of one who wasn't. But most do have a belief in an ideology.

And no, I think the ones that have an ideology are the worst of monsters, far worse than ones just wanting power/money. The CS Lewis quote above explains it better.

Fauci funded that lab because he believed that he was special, and better than others. He believed he was so smart, that he alone knew what was for the best interest of the public health, and that was sketchy dangerous tests in a Chinese lab. Because he didn't think they were that dangerous.

Then when it came out that a lab let it out, he wasn't just covering his ass, he was covering for the idea. He defended gain of function itself. Because he believed gain of function research was so important.

And through this, he could justify any evil.

 

[Tiamat]

Going to call a Jew an anti semite? Gosh Israel supporters are no diffrent than liberals. The left has blacks as their sacred cow, the neo con evangelical idolaters have Jews.

Edit: I remember @mrttao saying he is Jewish ethnically. If I'm wrong then I'm sorry.

Regardless of his ethnicity, he's regurgitating anti-Semitism. "The West is being run by Jews" is right out of Nazi propaganda from the 1930s.

l'm neither a leftist nor a "neo con evangelical idolater", but thanks for trying.

 

[mrttao]

None, that's a biproduct most of the times. I could give a rats ass about the corruption of money. The issue is when they 'help' us.

First, I never said 100%. I specifically pointed out corrupt dictators as an example of one who wasn't. But most do have a belief in an ideology.

And no, I think the ones that have an ideology are the worst of monsters, far worse than ones just wanting power/money. The CS Lewis quote above explains it better.

Fauci funded that lab because he believed that he was special, and better than others. He believed he was so smart, that he alone knew what was for the best interest of the public health, and that was sketchy dangerous tests in a Chinese lab. Because he didn't think they were that dangerous.

Then when it came out that a lab let it out, he wasn't just covering his ass, he was covering for the idea. He defended gain of function itself. Because he believed gain of function research was so important.

And through this, he could justify any evil.

1. At no point before this post have you acknowledged that not all rulers are altruistic... but whatever. fine.
You believe MOST politicians are misguided altruists and I believe most politicians are selfish liars.

2. It is worth noting that there probably frequently multi positional individuals. Where they have some beliefs they are pushing out of misguided good desires. While for other things they just say whatever the party line is so they can maintain power for selfish reasons. And then they justify it "sure I lied 90% of the time just to screw people over and stole a fantastic amount of wealth. But I stood up for position A,B,C which makes up for it. the rest is just the cost of playing politics"

3. You should be careful about specific examples like that.
You don't actually know what fauci believes. You paint a possible scenario of a well meaning idiot... but have no evidence to show he really is well meaning rather than a psychopath grasping for wealth and power.

I think fauci is probably a psychopath grasping for wealth and power, based on all I have seen of the man. But I acknowledge it is possible I am wrong and he is a well meaning idiot. But I seriously doubt it based on his conduct.

 

[Grimalkin]

So, in one post, you're claiming the fight against antisemetism "is done in the dumbest way possible", and in the very same post, claim Jews are controlling the West by using "rapefugees, trans kids" etc. as weapons. Oh, and you claim "we should stop screaming anti-Semitism every time a Jewish oligarch does something heinous."

Way to go there, thanks for showing everyone what a genuine unhinged anti-semite you really are.

Well the fundamental reason for this contradiction is the fact that the jewish denomination is both a religious and an ethnic denomination at the same time. Religious Jews are fine, and secular jews are for the most part also fine, but there's a portion of secular jews that are fucking evil, the same way that a portion of any race is fucking evil.

The problem is that jews are on average smarter than us by at least a standard deviation, which means that on one hand they disproportionately dominate the sciences and other high IQ professions that help advance humanity but on the other it also means that the most intelligent and efficient evil fuckers out there tend to disproportionately be jewish.

Hitler intended to make a superior race, and he fucking succeeded, just not in the way he expected. He applied immense selective pressure on a single population and the smart survived, either by seeing it coming or outwitting their pursuers.

If you want to label me I'd prefer the term ubersemitist, since I do in fact believe them to be the superior race. Followed closely by some East Asian ethnic groups. And when I'm referring to jews I'm mostly talking about Ashkenazi Jews.

 

[mrttao]

Regardless of his ethnicity, he's regurgitating anti-Semitism. "The West is being run by Jews" is right out of Nazi propaganda from the 1930s.

l'm neither a leftist nor a "neo con evangelical idolater", but thanks for trying.

> It is antisemitic to notice most western oligarchs are jewish.

This is exactly what I was talking about.
You are closing ranks with the oligarchs to this extent, and thus you are personally guilty of turning people into antisemites.

If we can't name them, we can't hold them to task. If we can't hold them to task, we are their shield. I am tired of being the shield of the oligarchs.

 

[Grimalkin]

> It is antisemitic to notice most western oligarchs are jewish.

This is exactly what I was talking about.
You are closing ranks with the oligarchs to this extent, and thus you are personally guilty of turning people into antisemites.

Western oligarchs are disproportionately jewish for the same reason that Nobel Laureates are disproportionately jewish, or more specifically ashkenazi jewish. It's all down to the fact that more selective pressure has been applied to you, and thus you've evolved faster than the rest of us.

You're on average better at doing good, and better at doing evil.

 

[Abhorsen]

1. At no point before this post have you acknowledged that not all rulers are altruistic... but whatever. fine.
You believe MOST politicians are misguided altruists and I believe most politicians are selfish liars.

1) you clearly haven't read what I've written:

It's why Communism and Fascism are so much worse than a corrupt dictator: because there are true believers. The corrupt nazi could be bribed to let a Jew through, but not a non-corrupt one.

Politicians do things for power/money.

You also clearly don't understand evil. A misguided altruist is the worst person. Here's a whole podcast, explaining that yes, even the Nazis viewed themselves as the good guys.

3. You should be careful about specific examples like that.
You don't actually know what fauci believes. You paint a possible scenario of a well meaning idiot... but have no evidence to show he really is well meaning rather than a psychopath grasping for wealth and power.

Don't call him well meaning without scare quotes. Everyone is well meaning.

As for the evidence, my explanation maps much more onto human behavior than yours.

And he's not a 'well meaning idiot'. He's not dumb. This is not a crime of stupidity, but of arrogance. Arrogance is why college kids think that they are special enough that they can do socialism "but do it right this time". They mean it when they say "that wasn't real socialism" because they are blinded by arrogance. So was Fauci. Pride is the worst sin, and it is that way for a reason.

Fauci is a high handed arrogant piece of shit that believes himself better than you, and has the accolades to prove it to himself. He is the absolute lowest person alive today. He still believes himself a hero. Not grasping this is not grasping what evil truly is.

 

[Cherico]

1) you clearly haven't read what I've written:


You also clearly don't understand evil. A misguided altruist is the worst person. Here's a whole podcast, explaining that yes, even the Nazis viewed themselves as the good guys.


Don't call him well meaning without scare quotes. Everyone is well meaning.

As for the evidence, my explanation maps much more onto human behavior than yours.

And he's not a 'well meaning idiot'. He's not dumb. This is not a crime of stupidity, but of arrogance. Arrogance is why college kids think that they are special enough that they can do socialism "but do it right this time". They mean it when they say "that wasn't real socialism" because they are blinded by arrogance. So was Fauci. Pride is the worst sin, and it is that way for a reason.

Fauci is a high handed arrogant piece of shit that believes himself better than you, and has the accolades to prove it to himself. He is the absolute lowest person alive today. He still believes himself a hero. Not grasping this is not grasping what evil truly is.

As much as I like you I put pride as the second worse sin.

Envy kills more people, socialism, communism, and all of those people they murdered done purely out of envy. Pride can be controlled and channeled into something positive. But Envy, I don't think I have ever seen that channeled into something positive.

 

[Grimalkin]

As much as I like you I put pride as the second worse sin.

Envy kills more people, socialism, communism, and all of those people they murdered done purely out of envy. Pride can be controlled and channeled into something positive. But Envy, I don't think I have ever seen that channeled into something positive.

Envy is channeled into something positive way more times than pride is, being jealous of someone and wanting to surpass them is a great driving force.

Pride is complacency, knowing that you're right and doing the right thing. Pride is the knowledge that you don't have to get any better, that you're perfect as you are.

 

[Jormungandr]

she deserved it.

Yup. Fuck her for doing something so disgusting.

With any luck she'll get tetanus or Necrotizing fasciitis. shrug

 

[Grimalkin]

Look, my position on Israel is pretty fucking simple, any sins that can be laid at your feet can be laid at the feet of France, Britain and the U.S a hundred times over. You're the most civilized country in your region of the world, and you deserve credit for that.

At the same point... Israel doesn't do itself, and by extension, Jews across the world, alot of favors. It's hard to maintain sympathy for the Hamas attacks when Israel responds with... basically straight up warcrimes and a death toll in the thousands and growing.

The reason why you're anti-semitic is because you hold Israel to different standards than everyone else, they have a deathtoll in the thousands when they're surrounded by at least six hostile countries. Whereas every other prominent country on the planet has a death toll in the hundreds of thousands just as a matter of foreign policy.

You're standing in a room full of murderers with one pickpocket included, and you choose to criticize the fucking pickpocket.

 

[Bacle]

US: Russia's Wagner Group to supply Hezbollah with air defense - report

US officials are unable to confirm that the system has been sent yet, but noted a positioned aircraft carrier used to deter Hezbollah in the Eastern Mediterranean.

www.jpost.com

Wagner is going to provide air-defense for Hezbollah.

So Russia really wants to keep playing fuckfuck games with Israel and assisting it enemies.

 

[mrttao]

1) you clearly haven't read what I've written:

Except, you keep on doubling down on it even later on in the same post.

Don't call him well meaning without scare quotes. Everyone is well meaning.

You claim that I am misconstruing what you said.
But keep on saying that everyone is well meaning.

No they are not. Self centered psychopaths exist. Cruel people exists. Sadists exist.

Some of the worst people around are altruists who do bad things "for the greater good". But that does not mean that EVERYONE is well meaning.

And you keep on making such absolute statements about "everyone".
===

You also clearly don't understand evil. A misguided altruist is the worst person. Here's a whole podcast, explaining that yes, even the Nazis viewed themselves as the good guys.

I never said which is more or less evil. I merely argued with you about what percentage of the oligarchs who rule us are well meaning vs the ones who are self centered psychopaths.

 

[Marduk]

US: Russia's Wagner Group to supply Hezbollah with air defense - report

US officials are unable to confirm that the system has been sent yet, but noted a positioned aircraft carrier used to deter Hezbollah in the Eastern Mediterranean.

www.jpost.com

Wagner is going to provide air-defense for Hezbollah.

So Russia really wants to keep playing fuckfuck games with Israel and assisting it enemies.

Through Wagner? That looks like someone really needs his new dacha or yacht.
They are lucky that they started arresting Girkin and company, they may throw a fit when they find out that while Russian troops keep getting hit with drones and missiles on the frontline every day, Russia has fancy Pantsirs to spare to protect some Shia jihadis in ME, real priorities right there.

 

[Grimalkin]

US: Russia's Wagner Group to supply Hezbollah with air defense - report

US officials are unable to confirm that the system has been sent yet, but noted a positioned aircraft carrier used to deter Hezbollah in the Eastern Mediterranean.

www.jpost.com

Wagner is going to provide air-defense for Hezbollah.

So Russia really wants to keep playing fuckfuck games with Israel and assisting it enemies.

Jesus fucking christ, sometimes I hate the complexity of world politics. I'm in favour of Israel against Hamas, as well as Russia against Ukraine, and America against Russia through the proxy of Ukraine. But on the other hand it's also fairly simple, I'm against Hamas and Ukraine, mostly because both of those countries are retarded fucking idiots who don't deserve to exist, and place a large excess of trust in their "allies" such as Iran or America respectively.

I'm in favour of Israel and Russia and America, largely because they're all acting in their own best interest. I hate Ukraine and Hamas because they act against their own self-interest. And I'm writing all this down because it's a good way to get my thoughts in order.

Israel>Russia>America>Hamas>Ukraine

This is my order of respect for nations, the reason that America is in third is largely due to the Biden administration. The reason that Ukraine is last is because they're fucking idiots, of all of the puppet states that America has ever had this is the only one that's been convinced to so blatantly commit suicide.

I never said which is more or less evil. I merely argued with you about what percentage of the oligarchs who rule us are well meaning vs the ones who are self centered psychopaths.

Except that being self-centered is the default, and being genuinely well meaning is rare. Most oligarchs who rule us aren't psychopaths, because psychopathy is a disadvantageous trait and most psychopaths don't make it that far up the power ladder.

Most of these people are capable of empathy, they just don't let it get in the way of acquiring power.

 

[mrttao]

US: Russia's Wagner Group to supply Hezbollah with air defense - report

US officials are unable to confirm that the system has been sent yet, but noted a positioned aircraft carrier used to deter Hezbollah in the Eastern Mediterranean.

www.jpost.com

Wagner is going to provide air-defense for Hezbollah.

So Russia really wants to keep playing fuckfuck games with Israel and assisting it enemies.

Not a surprise, really.

Anti-drone systems

• Unspecified anti-drone systems [September 2022] (delivered by an Israeli defence contractor to Ukraine indirectly through Poland, and the United States)[254][255]
• Missile warning system [May 2023].[256]

Vehicles

• 7 armored ambulances [Delivered From December 2022 to January 2023][257]

Military gear[258][259]

• 3,500 helmets [2,000 in April 2022, further 1,500 in June]
• 2,000 bulletproof vests [500 in April 2022, further 1,500 in June]
• 1,000 gas masks [June 2022]
• "hundreds" of mine protection suits [June 2022]
• "dozens" of hazmat filtration systems [June 2022]

Miscellaneous

• Intelligence regarding drones used by Russian forces [From November 2022].[260][261]

Israel sent military aid to ukraine in 2022.
so russia is sending military aid to hamas in 2023.
what did they think was gonna happen?