Hamas Launches Offensive Against Southern Israel

[Jormungandr]

Do dumb teenagers and college kids deserve to die for doing such, ah, "idealistic" shit like this? No.

But it doesn't change the fact that they're committing what's essentially domestic terrorism at best, manslaughter at worst. And, to put another turd on this shit sundae, if they're malicious actors e.g. the "Palestinian Protests" in London? Up those manslaughter charges to murder and revoke any asylum claims or visas.

This sort of thing should be future-destroying, and I'd feel little sympathy if, in addition to their absurd college loan repayments for a useless gender studies degree or some rot, they had to contend with a $20,000 or so fine on top of them, or two years in prison, and/or having their scholarships revoked.

If people drive over them to the point of severe injury or even death with probable cause e.g. a fire engine or ambulance? Sorry, but they might as well have put a gun to their heads and pulled the trigger.

I'd have zero sympathy if someone just GTA's their arses.

 

[Captain X]

They don't deserve to die, but I can't help but have very little sympathy for them. And frankly, the police should be dragging these people out of the street and arresting them. They will undoubtedly cry "muh free speech," but that doesn't translate into blocking the road. They could be on the sidewalk or alongside the road, but they shouldn't be allowed to block it. You know, there's video footage out there of the German police peeling these idiots off the pavement because they've glued themselves to it, treating them like the babies they are, and we've all seen how cucked the Germans are, so why can't other countries manage to arrest these morons?

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What does this have to do with Hamas, though?

 

[King Arts]

No, its like saying that being anti Ukraine and pro Russia doesn't make you a Putin supporter.
Technically not necessarily, but in reality, it's a meaningless distinction for practical purposes outside of intra-Russian politics.

If you are a non Russian who supports Russia and hates Ukraine then most likely you are a Putin supporter. That's because Russia is just doing an invasion for it's Imperial goals. Russia isn't fighting a war against Ukraine to create/free Russia. Russia just wants more clay. I guess some people could argue that parts of Ukraine are Russian or whatever, but ehhh Russia already has the most land of any nation on the earth. In the Levant there is far less land to divide between people.

If you are going to take Palestine's side in the existing conflict, distancing yourself from support of its existing and popular beyond the level of most of world's governments political stances, leadership and militants requires some serious mental gymnastics and looks like easily seen through PR cover.

How does it require mental gymnastics? Someone thinks the Palestinians are a nation/ethnos that someone thinks their homeland is in Israel/Palestine/the Levant. Thus they have the right to a nation. Unlike Russia and Ukraine where there is a lot of land so Russia and Ukraine can live easily. In this case there is very little land.

Likewise, none of the major factions (at least) of Palestine itself are particularly interested in engaging in the kind of mental gymnastics that some of their western simps do to avoid the "Jew hater" label, so unfortunately you are stuck doing that yourself.
The comparison to CCP-Taiwan conflict is horribly bad and demonstrative of massive ignorance as they are having merely a conflict of ideology and political power, not an over millenium old ethnoreligious conflict like the Palestine-Israel one. Ever heard them shouting "Khaybar Khaybar ya yahud" at the anti-Israel protests, what do you think that means?

I'm sorry how is this a millenium old conflict? Isreael came into being in 1948, not 1023 AD.

Though I did have to google Khaybar aparently Muhamud and his tribal band went to war with another tribe that was Jewish. Conquered them and they were required to pay/be dhimmis. Can you show how this is Jew hatred or some kind of holocaust? One tribe fighting another tribe, and then being forced into vassalage.

The Palestinian side itself, regardless of what more or less related stances their non-islamic simps craft, hates the Jews regardless of their political or even national identity, and they are quite vocal about it in fact, if you want to support them you have to deal with the reality of Arab street-Jew relations rather than wishful, more politically convenient theoretical state of them.

In other words, if you want the pro-Israel to act as if the Arab side was chill, reasonable and pragmatic in this conflict, you would first have to convince that side to be that, because we aren't up to pretend.

Again did Arabs and Jews kill each other pre 1948? pre 1920? When the Ottomans were in charge? When the Crusades were ongoing? Saying arabs hate Jews no matter their national or politics is false. This is a war between two semetic groups because they are fighting for the same piece of land.

Not sure they're all that mysterious to me. But, I am a skeptic.

Are you saying what I'm saying is anti semetic?

 

[Zachowon]

I see these roadblock "protests" as low level economic terrorism through illegally, physically blocking travel routes widely used to transport goods and people in pursuit of radical political goals.

Now in this specific case the guy in question went beyond legal definition of self defense and probably into the definition of vigilantism, but that doesn't change the fact that in an ideal world the police should be removing such roadblocks instead, and with lethal violence too, if need be.

See, we can link this all back to what is going on in ME right now.
Palestine is blocking the road. Hamas is committing crimes and Israel was on oen side.
Israel walked up and popped Palestine in the head to get to Hamas

 

[DarthOne]

See, we can link this all back to what is going on in ME right now.
Palestine is blocking the road. Hamas is committing crimes and Israel was on oen side.
Israel walked up and popped Palestine in the head to get to Hamas

Not the metaphor or message you think it is.

 

[King Arts]

See, we can link this all back to what is going on in ME right now.
Palestine is blocking the road. Hamas is committing crimes and Israel was on oen side.
Israel walked up and popped Palestine in the head to get to Hamas

God damn Zach. You know I read Starship troopers and though maybe military veterans should be the only ones to vote(or those who do public service)

But my God man you are making me reconsider after that butchery of logic you just did.

 

[Jormungandr]

They don't deserve to die, but I can't help but have very little sympathy for them. And frankly, the police should be dragging these people out of the street and arresting them. They will undoubtedly cry "muh free speech," but that doesn't translate into blocking the road. They could be on the sidewalk or alongside the road, but they shouldn't be allowed to block it. You know, there's video footage out there of the German police peeling these idiots off the pavement because they've glued themselves to it, treating them like the babies they are, and we've all seen how cucked the Germans are, so why can't other countries manage to arrest these morons?

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What does this have to do with Hamas, though?

A lot of protests are against Israel and are pro-Palestinian (which, by extension, are pro-Hamas, so fuck them); conversation inevitably drifted to the Just Stop Oil and other environmental protester morons by association, since they do the same shit (block roads, et cetera).

 

[Zachowon]

Not the metaphor or message you think it is.

God damn Zach. You know I read Starship troopers and though maybe military veterans should be the only ones to vote(or those who do public service)

But my God man you are making me reconsider after that butchery of logic you just did.

I was just trying to find a way to height the conversation back around to the thread topic.
I know my metaphor sucked ass

 

[Marduk]

If you are a non Russian who supports Russia and hates Ukraine then most likely you are a Putin supporter. That's because Russia is just doing an invasion for it's Imperial goals. Russia isn't fighting a war against Ukraine to create/free Russia. Russia just wants more clay. I guess some people could argue that parts of Ukraine are Russian or whatever, but ehhh Russia already has the most land of any nation on the earth. In the Levant there is far less land to divide between people.

Palestine also has imperial goals and wants more clay. Hell, even some of their supporters say openly say which clay and how much. It doesn't have the military means to do an open invasion like Russia, but they do what they can do, and you can trust them that if they did have such means, they would have used them.

How does it require mental gymnastics? Someone thinks the Palestinians are a nation/ethnos that someone thinks their homeland is in Israel/Palestine/the Levant. Thus they have the right to a nation. Unlike Russia and Ukraine where there is a lot of land so Russia and Ukraine can live easily. In this case there is very little land.

Well then that someone is historically ignorant, and the sheer scale, nature and polarization of these protests is demonstrative of it - the Muslim, and especially Arab societies, even their more or less westernized diasporas, have an undeniable connection to Palestinians.
There is no reason to forget history beyond 49 years and all the wars other Arab states waged on behalf of Palestine. I've even linked quotes of Palestinian leaders explaining the recent and very tactical nature of "Palestinian nationhood". In reality, we are discussing an extension of Arab-Israeli conflict. If Palestinians were interested purely in nationalist style independence, Arab world be damned, and the other way around too, the politics involved would be far simpler than they are.
This is why regularly, even years ago, whenever flareups in Palestine conflict happen. Arabs with French citizenship attack Jews with French citizenship in France, even though neither of them are Israeli or Palestinian.
If you imagine it's just a conflict over national identities between Palestinians and Israelis, this makes no fucking sense.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-riots-jewish-self-defense-groups-in-france-gain-traction/

Both sides agree that this is an old, ethnoreligious conflict between peoples and ideological/religious communities, not states, rather than one merely over national loyalties and modern borders between two states.
Third party observers projecting nationalist motivations with nationalist parameters and limits over what the actual participants of the conflict think is silly wishful thinking.

I'm sorry how is this a millenium old conflict? Isreael came into being in 1948, not 1023 AD.

Israel may have come into existence in 1948, but Jews and Arabs fought much earlier, regardless of different flags being waved at the time. Neither side is going to go out of their way to forget history.

Though I did have to google Khaybar aparently Muhamud and his tribal band went to war with another tribe that was Jewish. Conquered them and they were required to pay/be dhimmis. Can you show how this is Jew hatred or some kind of holocaust? One tribe fighting another tribe, and then being forced into vassalage.

Well if you want to conquer someone and turn them into serfs, that's not exactly a sign of love, is it? It's something one would want to do to those they hate.

Again did Arabs and Jews kill each other pre 1948? pre 1920? When the Ottomans were in charge? When the Crusades were ongoing? Saying arabs hate Jews no matter their national or politics is false. This is a war between two semetic groups because they are fighting for the same piece of land.

Ottoman Empire was run by Turks, not Arabs, who had their own political games to play with their empire's subject peoples, including Jews and Arabs.

Persecution of Jews - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

This does list a few big cases.
And i don't see how Arabs sometimes tolerating Jews as a servile population under their sovereignty is evidence of not hating them. Nazis were willing to keep some Slavs as serfs too.
And that's separate from the current situation where many Arab factions would want to kill most or all of Israel's population in revenge for the temerity of having own sovereign state where they are the sovereign and Arabs aren't (while still treated better than Jews were in Arab lands historically) rather than the other way around, like the historical norm was.
Still, even if Israel got all the land of Palestine, Arab world would have many, many times more land than Israel, so they can't exactly complain about lack of places to live in, it's not like Israel is trying to claim half of Middle East and kick Arabs out of Arabian Peninsula.

No, one part of the conflict is that the Arab side considers all of the land theirs forever, no questions asked, not 99%, not 99.9%, all of it, and the other is religious, to the same point, with particular attention to the holy sites in Palestine, that they absolutely should be under Muslim rule, no ifs and buts.

 

[King Arts]

I will give you that in a, "we ain't got a choice" department. But, now that we do? Might I suggest it's a bit anti-semetic to suggest Jews should EVER settle for that again?

And yes, we have a supposedly unlimited means of research at our fingertips. Please make use of it.

I never said you had to settle for dhimmihood. Please don’t put words in my mouth. If Israel wants to fight the Muslims and maintain its borders that’s fine, if Israel wants to conquer Arab states that’s fine, it’s also fine if Israel gets conquered. I really have no preference (except a small one for Israeli because it’s the status quo) as long as who is in charge lets Christian pilgrims in. And people in the west should have free speech to support one side or the other.

This whole topic came up because some pro Israel people said that the Arabs will exterminate every Jew and make another holocaust. We are allowed to support occupation and annexation of weak nations by strong ones. But supporting the extermination or removal of a people is too far.

Can I ask what I said that shows hatred of Jews based on race? Is it because I don’t support Israel, and support people in the west arguing in favor of Palestine which is opposed to Israel? I don’t think I said anything about the Jewish people themselves.

 

[Marduk]

This whole topic came up because some pro Israel people said that the Arabs will exterminate every Jew and make another holocaust. We are allowed to support occupation and annexation of weak nations by strong ones. But supporting the extermination or removal of a people is too far.

Besides nitpicking whether they would exterminate every single one of them or merely 98%...
Let's say hypothetically somehow a unspecified coalition of nearby Muslim states manages to bumrush the IDF, conquer Israel, by some clever maneuvering, opportunism or sheer luck don't get nuked nor intervened against by western powers, creating the "Palestine from the river to the sea" that their supporters yell about.
How do you think would the Jewish population of Israel under that occupation be treated, both by the Muslim armies and the now unrestrained Palestinian population?
I'd hazard a guess that we're most definitely not talking about something along the lines of ISAF or KFOR treatment.
What do you think would the Jewish population of that area be after, say, 20 years of that treatment?

 

[CurtisLemay]

Said no, but you didn't argue for it being a bad thing. And after 10/7, do you really think that is an option?

As for requested proof...

I'm sorry but this is nonsense. You are basically allowing one side to manipulate language and protect itself under the shield of "Anti Semitism" and use it as a cudgel against the other side. When the other side are actual semites.

While this may be true, when you say "Anti-semitism", everyone gets what you mean.

Ironically the Arab man Abraham is in the right here. Assuming you have not left any information out. But if the Qurans owned the Israeli Flag they have the right to protest and even burn flags(this isn’t even an American flag) so the Jewish student who took the flag away is a criminal, and the Qurans were using lawfully self defense of themselves and their property.

Unless the Qurans stole the flag from a pro Israel protestor or whatever.

Again, nice try, but there is the crime of "incictement to riot." It's not much better than defacing a Torah in front of most Jews.

You do a lot of wiggle with your writings, and I admit, my rhetorical skills aren't great...but sorry, you are leaning to one side and it ain't the one I am on. While they have the right to burn any flag under US law (and they do), might I ask would it be any better if they burned a cross in front of a black family? It's the old "because we can do a thing, doesn't mean we should" argument.

You have the right to your beliefs. I have an equal right to find them repugnant.

 

[CurtisLemay]

What do you think would the Jewish population of that area be after, say, 20 years of that treatment?

We don't have to imagine very hard.

 

[Husky_Khan]

That is a legal statement, unless you are just talking morality?

No I tend to avoid talking morality with people who endorse child slavery and defend pedophilia. But it's still not a legal statement. Since you are a lawyer or legal scholar, I am surprised you are still confused by that. But let me try a format that is more your speed.

FROM THE COMEDY DUO THAT BROUGHT YOU

THE SOUND OF FREEDOM II: GODS CHILDREN ARE NOT FOR SALE (UNLESS GOD PERMITS IT BUT THEN YOU CAN'T FUCK THEM UNTIL THEY ARE EMANCIPATED)

and

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comes a thrilling legal... uhhh THRILLER starring some random shitposter with a Stuffed Dog Avatar and the Foremost Legal Mind in All of the Eastern Orthdoxys.

Court is Now In Session, Arbitration Offered by Judge Whopper
​

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Bailiff:
Arbitration is now in Session. The Honorable Judge Whopper now presiding.

Judge Whopper:
Okay... what do we have here?

Bailiff:
King Arts, Legal Scholar and Lawyer states that Husky Khan is making legal statements regarding a case in Tulane University involving the alleged theft of a flag. They/Them/Woof respond that King Arts is a retarded pedophile and child slavery enthusiast.

Judge Whopper:
I want you both to keep in mind, that neither of your characters are on trial here.

Husky Khan:
*whimpers*

King Arts:

Is all you do whine incessantly when the narrative you build shows cracks?

Judge Whopper:
*slams gavel* ORDER! King Arts. You may proceed.

King Arts:

The Arab man Abraham is in the right here. Assuming you have not left any information out. But if the Qurans owned the Israeli Flag they have the right to protest and even burn flags(this isn't even an American flag) so the Jewish student who took the flag away is a criminal, and the Qurans were using lawfully self defense of themselves and their property. Unless the Qurans stole the flag from a pro Israel protestor or whatever.

Judge Whopper:
Your turn bitch!

Husky Khan:

You're not allowed to assault people in defense of other peoples property typically.

*ponders*

There's probably other legal quirks as well. But I don't think there's a legal case ongoing anyways in either direction.

King Arts:

DON'T MAKE LEGAL STATEMENTS WHEN YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE LAW!

Husky Khan:
*Woof*

I never made a legal statement. I said.

You're not allowed to assault people in defense of other peoples property typically.

There's probably other legal quirks as well. But I don't think there's a legal case ongoing anyways in either direction.

King Arts:

That is a legal statement!

Judge Whopper:
Husky Khan. Do you know what a legal statement is?

Husky Khan:
*woof* I'm not a lawyer like King Arts but I'm pretty sure a legal statement is a written statement of fact made for the court or something. I think King Arts is just retarded and misused the term because he spends too much time lusting over child slaves he can 'emancipate.'

Judge Whopper:
*slams gavel* Bad dog! Bailiff you may proceed.

Husky Khan:
*whimper*

Bailiff:
Legal Statement Number One.

It's a bit more complicated you can use force to prevent the thief from taking your property but generally not lethal force. Also states have different laws. I don't think our Jewish thief was killed.Also kinda strange to see a conservative saying a law abiding man doesn't have the right to use all necessary force to protect their property from a criminal.

You are allowed to use self defense not just for yourself, but other people. You are also allowed to use force to protect other people's property.(What do you think security guards do?) You are allowed "reasonable force" to protect property, Reasonable force has been held to be non lethal.

Assault - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Judge Whopper:
Wow those are some pretty extreme legal statements. Your response Bitch?

Husky Khan:
*woof* I asked him to clarify why Mr. Quraan and his sons were law abiding. And then I asked him what he meant by "using all necessary force to protect their property from a criminal." Since King Arts is a cuck, he took the out I gave him and changed the statement from "All necessary force " to "reasonable force." His only caveat when using "necessary force" and "reasonable force" is that it has to be "non lethal" and cited that security guards engage in this all the time.

I've never seen security guards beat thieves with wooden staves and flagpoles and merchants run out, chase the suspect and begin whipping them with their belt over the theft of a twenty or thirty dollar flag or other merchandise and if anyone else gets close, they begin beating them as well. That sounds excessive. He also cited security guards as an example of people who protect other peoples property with felony assault over minor crimes when they are obviously employed by the property owner.

King Arts:

you are wrong about your statement "You can't assault someone to protect property!"

Husky Khan:
I never said that. I said:

You're not allowed to assault people in defense of other peoples property typically.

There's probably other legal quirks as well. But I don't think there's a legal case ongoing anyways in either direction.

King Arts:

Also how about instead of cherry picking biased sources, you actually say what the fuck occurred? Because you haven't said anything about what the guy was doing. Even with your bias I can show that you haven't shown the Arab man to have done a wrong action.

Judge Whopper:
*Gasp* Are you using biased sources?!?!

Husky Khan:
The title of the thread is "Anti-Semitism in the United States and Elsewhere." The purpose of the thread is to catalog antisemitism in the United States and Elsewhere. So I posted numerous times from the Twitter Account Stop Antisemitism. When he elected to respond to my chronicling of the antisemitism I told him he was derailing the thread again.

King Arts:

Oh and no this is not derailing. You brought up this scenario and I'm arguing it's not anti semitism and the Arab man was justified.

Judge Whopper:
Wait. You see that this is not antisemitism?

King Arts:

this is pure slander. Prove this guy was supporting Hamas. Sorry to disappoint you and the Israel lobby but being against Israel and pro Palestine doesn't make one a Hamas supporter or a hater of Jews anymore than being against the CCP and pro Taiwan makes you a hater of Chinese.

Judge Whopper:
Let the Court Know that Husky Khan has been LEGALLY CHARGED WITH SLANDER by King Arts.

King Arts:
I have more legal statements to submit your Honor!

A Conservative arguing a law abiding man doesn't have the right to use all necessary force to protect their property from a criminal.

the Arab man was justified.

I can show that you haven't shown the Arab man to have done a wrong action.

Judge Whopper:
Wow this Arab Man not only wasn't antisemitic, but never did a wrong action, was justified and law abiding and all Conservaties must defend his actions. Your response Bitch?

Husky Khan:
Okay... proof they are antisemitic. Well first they tried to burn an Israeli Flag.


King Arts:

Americans are allowed to protest and burn flags of foreign nations the Israeli supporters are allowed to burn Palestine flags and the Palestinian protesters can burn Israel flags.

Husky Khan:
I never argued otherwise. You should argue against what I'm saying, not what I didn't say.

The thread is about AntiSemitism. Burning an Israeli Flag in a pro-Hamas protest is AntiSemitism in front of a bunch of Jewish students at a University where a large plurality of the student body is Jewish is Anti-Semitism IMHO.

But just to be clear you think driving your pickup truck through the middle of a group of people multiple times with minors in the back and having one of them set a Jewish flag on fire in front of them is "justified" and not "anti-semitism" and "law biding" and "not a wrong action" in your opinion seems suspect to me. But I'm glad you came out to defend the pro-Hamas instigators as just and good in yet another thread derailment.

King Arts:

so what if they were provocative? Pretty much every protest is provocative to someone.

Husky Khan:
It's trickier to claim self defense to the point of justifying all neccessary force short of lethal force if your provoking an assault. Hence why I said LEGAL QUIRKS in the very beginning. Anyways the Wife of the Husband and Mother to the Boys Endorses and Condones the Actions.

Also the car drove down the street four times and it was on the fifth time that they burned the flag before students attempted to grab the flag before you see pro-Palestinian protestors assault numerous students.

Judge Whopper:
They assaulted numerous students?

Husky Khan:
Well you can see it on the video?

King Arts: Wait a minute here!

how about instead of cherry picking biased sources, you actually say what the fuck occurred? Because you haven't said anything about what the guy was doing. Even with your bias I can show that you haven't shown the Arab man to have done a wrong action.

Husky Khan:
Like most security guards who witness a small denomination theft, they swarmed out of the business to beat the apparent thief and anyone nearby from felony assault after provoking them to steal as their legal counsel just admitted.

King Arts:
*stands up* I condemn Hamas.

Judge Whopper:
Yep no evidence of anti-semitism here. If all you can provide Husky Khan is that the pro-Palestinian protest was moved off campus, was taken just off campus, outside of a university that is at least a third Jewish, that the Palestinians were shouting hateful antisemitic rhetoric, that the Quraan family drove down the road between in the middle of the protesters four times before setting off a flag with the intention of provoking a reaction by burning it, then responded with reasonably necessary force by assaulting the Jewish thief and numerous other students with a belt, fists, a metal flagstaff resulting in multiple arrests of the felony assaulters apparently justifiably defending the property of others and the loved ones later praised their behavior and condoned it, I must say I see no sign of antisemitism here.

Husky Khan:
*woof* Did I mention King Arts really likes hijacking the antisemitism thread? Or that he praised Sharia? Or that he defends fucking little black girls as long as its legal? Like I think there is a theme here...

Judge Whopper:
*slams gavel* I think we're done here. Bitch! I sentence you to posting on The Sietch for four more years for making false legal statements and SLANDER. Since you're a Dog, a Husky at that, I'm basically giving you a life sentence.

Husky Khan:
Noooooooooooooooooo....... I'll be trapped with Eastern Orthodog petophiles! My tail end won't survive. *annoying Husky whinings* Did I mention he's a closet queer?

 

[King Arts]

No I tend to avoid talking morality with people who endorse child slavery and defend pedophilia. But it's still not a legal statement. Since you are a lawyer or legal scholar, I am surprised you are still confused by that. But let me try a format that is more your speed.

FROM THE COMEDY DUO THAT BROUGHT YOU

THE SOUND OF FREEDOM II: GODS CHILDREN ARE NOT FOR SALE (UNLESS GOD PERMITS IT BUT THEN YOU CAN'T FUCK THEM UNTIL THEY ARE EMANCIPATED)

and

NIGHTKIN'S READING RAINBOW

comes a thrilling legal... uhhh THRILLER starring some random shitposter with a Stuffed Dog Avatar and the Foremost Legal Mind in All of the Eastern Orthdoxys.

Court is Now In Session, Arbitration Offered by Judge Whopper
​

---

Bailiff:
Arbitration is now in Session. The Honorable Judge Whopper now presiding.

Judge Whopper:
Okay... what do we have here?

Bailiff:
King Arts, Legal Scholar and Lawyer states that Husky Khan is making legal statements regarding a case in Tulane University involving the alleged theft of a flag. They/Them/Woof respond that King Arts is a retarded pedophile and child slavery enthusiast.

Judge Whopper:
I want you both to keep in mind, that neither of your characters are on trial here.

Husky Khan:
*whimpers*

King Arts:


Judge Whopper:
*slams gavel* ORDER! King Arts. You may proceed.

King Arts:


Judge Whopper:
Your turn bitch!

Husky Khan:


King Arts:


Husky Khan:
*Woof*


King Arts:


Judge Whopper:
Husky Khan. Do you know what a legal statement is?

Husky Khan:
*woof* I'm not a lawyer like King Arts but I'm pretty sure a legal statement is a written statement of fact made for the court or something. I think King Arts is just retarded and misused the term because he spends too much time lusting over child slaves he can 'emancipate.'

Judge Whopper:
*slams gavel* Bad dog! Bailiff you may proceed.

Husky Khan:
*whimper*

Bailiff:
Legal Statement Number One.



Judge Whopper:
Wow those are some pretty extreme legal statements. Your response Bitch?

Husky Khan:
*woof* I asked him to clarify why Mr. Quraan and his sons were law abiding. And then I asked him what he meant by "using all necessary force to protect their property from a criminal." Since King Arts is a cuck, he took the out I gave him and changed the statement from "All necessary force " to "reasonable force." His only caveat when using "necessary force" and "reasonable force" is that it has to be "non lethal" and cited that security guards engage in this all the time.

I've never seen security guards beat thieves with wooden staves and flagpoles and merchants run out, chase the suspect and begin whipping them with their belt over the theft of a twenty or thirty dollar flag or other merchandise and if anyone else gets close, they begin beating them as well. That sounds excessive. He also cited security guards as an example of people who protect other peoples property with felony assault over minor crimes when they are obviously employed by the property owner.

King Arts:


Husky Khan:
I never said that. I said:



King Arts:


Judge Whopper:
*Gasp* Are you using biased sources?!?!

Husky Khan:
The title of the thread is "Anti-Semitism in the United States and Elsewhere." The purpose of the thread is to catalog antisemitism in the United States and Elsewhere. So I posted numerous times from the Twitter Account Stop Antisemitism. When he elected to respond to my chronicling of the antisemitism I told him he was derailing the thread again.

King Arts:


Judge Whopper:
Wait. You see that this is not antisemitism?

King Arts:


Judge Whopper:
Let the Court Know that Husky Khan has been LEGALLY CHARGED WITH SLANDER by King Arts.

King Arts:
I have more legal statements to submit your Honor!




Judge Whopper:
Wow this Arab Man not only wasn't antisemitic, but never did a wrong action, was justified and law abiding and all Conservaties must defend his actions. Your response Bitch?

Husky Khan:
Okay... proof they are antisemitic. Well first they tried to burn an Israeli Flag.


King Arts:


Husky Khan:
I never argued otherwise. You should argue against what I'm saying, not what I didn't say.



King Arts:


Husky Khan:
It's trickier to claim self defense to the point of justifying all neccessary force short of lethal force if your provoking an assault. Hence why I said LEGAL QUIRKS in the very beginning. Anyways the Wife of the Husband and Mother to the Boys Endorses and Condones the Actions.

Also the car drove down the street four times and it was on the fifth time that they burned the flag before students attempted to grab the flag before you see pro-Palestinian protestors assault numerous students.

Judge Whopper:
They assaulted numerous students?

Husky Khan:
Well you can see it on the video?

King Arts: Wait a minute here!


Husky Khan:
Like most security guards who witness a small denomination theft, they swarmed out of the business to beat the apparent thief and anyone nearby from felony assault after provoking them to steal as their legal counsel just admitted.

King Arts:
*stands up* I condemn Hamas.

Judge Whopper:
Yep no evidence of anti-semitism here. If all you can provide Husky Khan is that the pro-Palestinian protest was moved off campus, was taken just off campus, outside of a university that is at least a third Jewish, that the Palestinians were shouting hateful antisemitic rhetoric, that the Quraan family drove down the road between in the middle of the protesters four times before setting off a flag with the intention of provoking a reaction by burning it, then responded with reasonably necessary force by assaulting the Jewish thief and numerous other students with a belt, fists, a metal flagstaff resulting in multiple arrests of the felony assaulters apparently justifiably defending the property of others and the loved ones later praised their behavior and condoned it, I must say I see no sign of antisemitism here.

Husky Khan:
*woof* Did I mention King Arts really likes hijacking the antisemitism thread? Or that he praised Sharia? Or that he defends fucking little black girls as long as its legal? Like I think there is a theme here...

Judge Whopper:
*slams gavel* I think we're done here. Bitch! I sentence you to posting on The Sietch for four more years for making false legal statements and SLANDER. Since you're a Dog, a Husky at that, I'm basically giving you a life sentence.

Husky Khan:
Noooooooooooooooooo....... I'll be trapped with Eastern Orthodog petophiles! My tail end won't survive. *annoying Husky whinings* Did I mention he's a closet queer?

Ahh shitposting and trolling wonderful.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Ahh shitposting and trolling wonderful.

Well I mean it's using mostly your quotes legal statements so yeah. 🤷‍♀️

 

[King Arts]

Besides nitpicking whether they would exterminate every single one of them or merely 98%...
Let's say hypothetically somehow a unspecified coalition of nearby Muslim states manages to bumrush the IDF, conquer Israel, by some clever maneuvering, opportunism or sheer luck don't get nuked nor intervened against by western powers, creating the "Palestine from the river to the sea" that their supporters yell about.
How do you think would the Jewish population of Israel under that occupation be treated, both by the Muslim armies and the now unrestrained Palestinian population?
I'd hazard a guess that we're most definitely not talking about something along the lines of ISAF or KFOR treatment.
What do you think would the Jewish population of that area be after, say, 20 years of that treatment?

It would suck most definitely oppression is not fun. But do we have to protect and defend every group that is being oppressed? What about the Kurds, or some other tribe. I have not argued that Israel should restrict itself, or let the Muslims win. Merely that the west should not get involved. I can support the west coming in to protect a group from getting wiped out, but I don’t want us to fight for the rights and freedom of everyone. People need to protect their freedom themselves.

Said no, but you didn't argue for it being a bad thing. And after 10/7, do you really think that is an option?

Are you serious? Why would I need to argue it’s a bad thing? It’s obviously a bad thing. If me and Marduk were talking about some disease and he said it’s cancer aids, and I said no he is wrong it’s like a mix of Covid and a toothache it will suck but you will live. Do you need me to tell you that Covid toothache is bad?

In this case Nazism is cancer aids and Arab Islamic conquest is the Covid toothache.

While this may be true, when you say "Anti-semitism", everyone gets what you mean.

You said it was true. And there is a difference between “antisemitism” and antisemitism the one in quotes would be things that aren’t actually Jew hate like not giving support to Israel, or being neutral in the conflict and not uncritically supporting the Israeli side and thinking they can do no wrong.

Real anti semitism is spray painting swasticas on synogoges desecrating Jewish cemeteries, threatening random Jews or doing hate crimes, do you see a difference?

Again, nice try, but there is the crime of "incictement to riot." It's not much better than defacing a Torah in front of most Jews.

You do a lot of wiggle with your writings, and I admit, my rhetorical skills aren't great...but sorry, you are leaning to one side and it ain't the one I am on. While they have the right to burn any flag under US law (and they do), might I ask would it be any better if they burned a cross in front of a black family? It's the old "because we can do a thing, doesn't mean we should" argument.

You have the right to your beliefs. I have an equal right to find them repugnant.

Are you saying the flag of the foreign nation of Israel is equivalent to the Jewish holy book? That insulting the flag of the secular state of Israel represents all Jews in all nations and not just citizens of Israel? I mean I do at least think there is a line between Israel the state and the Jewish people. One can dislike the nation state yet not feel animosity towards Jews. Do you think otherwise?

I’m just asking because otherwise that opens up the question of well loyalty if Jews are loyal to Israel then what about the Jews who live in America, the UK, or France?

As for why burning a cross in front of a black family’s home is different for one there is a history to cross burning’s blacks were under the power of the KKK and that symbol became tainted just like how the swastica is seen as hateful in the west. While the flag of Israel represents a secular government a secular government’s flag can be burned to show anger.

I mean yes you do have the right to your beliefs it I’d just like to understand them and clarify my position.

 

[King Arts]

Well I mean it's using mostly your quotes legal statements so yeah. 🤷‍♀️

Oh and by the way Thomas Jefferson never raped Sally Hemings or anyone.

 

[Husky_Khan]

Oh and by the way Thomas Jefferson never raped Sally Hemings or anyone.

Bro the thread topic is AntiSemitism. Stop projecting.

 

[ParadiseLost]

Oh and by the way Thomas Jefferson never raped Sally Hemings or anyone.

Thomas Jefferson never raped Sally Hemings because she definitely consented.