How can conservatives effect change?

[AndrewJTalon]

So, there is an uncomfortable question that I think we're all wondering: At what point do we stop talking about these outrages, and start doing something about it?

I don't mean armed insurrection... Not at first. But let's face it: The Left is desperate. Their time table for subverting control over the Western World was thrown off by all this populism. Installing Joe Biden via electoral shenanigans to the point that 80 percent of Republicans and 30 percent of Democrats think it was stolen by fraud is a sign of them willing to break every law and push through to get power. And once they have it, they'll try to keep it, solidify their control. The lockdowns are a perfect example. They're not going to be willing to give up that power, not easily.

They are exposed in the eyes of many Americans that they are corrupt, fraudulent, and incompetent at their jobs. And they'll just use naked power plays to get what they want.

This is not an exhortation to arms. Not yet. We may not be at that point yet, and who knows? We may get lucky and it doesn't come to that. But the simple fact is, even if you don't think Biden won via fraud, he is in essence beholden to the Chinese and to Big Tech. We've seen the lengths they've gone to in order to censor us. They will only be emboldened by this success. And they will strive to make sure we can't get 'uppity' ever again.

I'm not giving into despair over being ruled by these people. But I sense that this will ultimately only be resolved via conflict. Making the government fear the people who actually keep this country running more than the liberal parasites will be the only option. Whether that is through violence or other means is yet to be seen.

But, we come back to the question: What are we going to do about it?

This may be helpful:

We Are Not Alone

I’ve never before today heard of Sarah Chamberlain, and yet she is my (a little younger) sister. So are all of you, my comrades. From now on I’m stealing the communist word for believer…

accordingtohoyt.com

 

[Deleted member 88]

@AndrewJTalon we have neither the organization nor preparation for any such thing.

Nor do I think the will to see such an endeavor to the end, no matter the cost.

We also lack the will by and large to take actions, that would be necessary in such a time, to do what had to be done.

And until that changes, no amount of populist sentiment will make any real difference whatsoever.

 

[AndrewJTalon]

@AndrewJTalon we have neither the organization nor preparation for any such thing.

Nor do I think the will to see such an endeavor to the end, no matter the cost.

We also lack the will by and large to take actions, that would be necessary in such a time, to do what had to be done.

And until that changes, no amount of populist sentiment will make any real difference whatsoever.

That's your opinion.

 

[Cherico]

@AndrewJTalon we have neither the organization nor preparation for any such thing.

Nor do I think the will to see such an endeavor to the end, no matter the cost.

We also lack the will by and large to take actions, that would be necessary in such a time, to do what had to be done.

And until that changes, no amount of populist sentiment will make any real difference whatsoever.

My advice look at the annoying SWJ assholes the ones who make our lives absolute hell.

Notice how most of them don't have kids? Look further around at the left and you will notice that theme occuring a lot you know who does have kids? Relgious people, rural folks. These people do not have a future.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

That's your opinion.

It doesin't help that the right is split in half between conservatives who want to legit conserve America and reactonist who think both the American and to a certain extent industrialization "Experiment" have failed and while piracy and the promise of free crap is enough to intice the left to "unite" the right can't unite because they are just too different. If the left wasin't a thing, conservatives and reactionist would be at a cultural war with each other right now, if we aren't already.

 

[ShieldWife]

My advice look at the annoying SWJ assholes the ones who make our lives absolute hell.

Notice how most of them don't have kids? Look further around at the left and you will notice that theme occuring a lot you know who does have kids? Relgious people, rural folks. These people do not have a future.

I like this line of thinking and I wish it was true, but alas it isn’t. SJWs don’t have kids, that is true, but they raise conservative people’s kids for them via public school, higher education, TV, movies, media, and entertainment. It doesn’t matter if conservatives have kids if they give them over to left wingers to raise for them. That is why it so important for conservative parents to home school, why it’s so important for conservative parents to keep their parents away from propaganda in TV, movies, and other entertainment.

Also, the left just brings in new leftists from other nations, who turn red states blue forever. The left is winning and will continue to win because they own the future, they plan generations ahead, while conservatives don’t think more than 2 to 4 years ahead.

As for conservatives doing something... they still could but it involves risks and sacrifice that most conservatives won’t trouble themselves with. They would rather sit in their living rooms, watching a their favorite TV show, while the world goes to hell around them.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

My advice look at the annoying SWJ assholes the ones who make our lives absolute hell.

Notice how most of them don't have kids? Look further around at the left and you will notice that theme occuring a lot you know who does have kids? Relgious people, rural folks. These people do not have a future.

They dont need kids. They are importing all the footsoldiers they require.

 

[Deleted member 88]

SJWs are just foot soldiers anyway. The real power is veiled and hidden. The rot of our society goes much deeper, and the Left merely capitalizes on and reinforces it.

I would say the problem is less Leftist professors or vertically directed propaganda, though that is a problem, and more social pressure.

Why do people support BLM? Why they do they support Antifa? Most people aren’t deep thinkers or do research for themselves.

They rely on their peers. What the left has done successfully-is manage the social and cultural consensus. It doesn’t cost anything to think or believe “Trump is Hitler” or “being a transgender is like so hip”. Their peers think these things, or people believe their peers do, and they go along.

They manage the culture, through the management of the norms. This means the baseline is generally in line with what they want.

Social engineering and mass compliance, means that professorial or direct indoctrination is simply a matter of reinforcing trends and beliefs already existing.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

That is why it so important for conservative parents to home school, why it’s so important for conservative parents to keep their parents away from propaganda in TV, movies, and other entertainment.

Well, there's one small hope

The fact that most if not all the entertainment they touch gets into something as others have said

Bertolt Brecht - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The "Brechtian Philosophy" or simply put, it's way too hamfisted or priorities "the message" over the delivery and execution way too much

Supposedly this is for "Young Adults" but even I can tell, that the guys in charge of these attempted propaganda pieces probably don't really know their audience

It's easy to be "Anti-Establishment" when the Establishment itself constantly supports and allows for whatever you do and punishes those who might stop you

That said, parents have to actually educate their kids, otherwise they're probably gonna go decide whatever "moral lessons" or "historical lessons" and as such that the Entertainment they watch is 100% "relevant to reality" and will act as if they're super "mature" revolutionaries who think socialism's 100% a solution because Stellaris or Star Trek showed them how easy it would be to implement all those programs

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Well, there's one small hope

The fact that most if not all the entertainment they touch gets into something as others have said

Bertolt Brecht - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The "Brechtian Philosophy" or simply put, it's way too hamfisted or priorities "the message" over the delivery and execution way too much

Supposedly this is for "Young Adults" but even I can tell, that the guys in charge of these attempted propaganda pieces probably don't really know their audience

It's easy to be "Anti-Establishment" when the Establishment itself constantly supports and allows for whatever you do and punishes those who might stop you

That said, parents have to actually educate their kids, otherwise they're probably gonna go decide whatever "moral lessons" or "historical lessons" and as such that the Entertainment they watch is 100% "relevant to reality" and will act as if they're super "mature" revolutionaries who think socialism's 100% a solution because Stellaris or Star Trek showed them how easy it would be to implement all those programs

still think she should have been raven's daughter and not starfires.

 

[Cherico]

still think she should have been raven's daughter and not starfires.

the fundamental problem with that series is that it does have a good concept.

Starfire is an imigrant, and any child born on earth that she had would be the child of an imigrant. That is an experience that a lot of people have had in america. The child born in the country who gets it an the inherent cultural gulf between them and a parent who didnt grow up here.

You could have starfire try her absolute best to be a good parent but be embarrising because she just doesnt get a lot of cultural nuances. You can have a story of two people who love each other but simply do not get each other. I think at the core of it the reason why a lot of people are angry is because when you think about it this is a story with a lot of potential.

And the exicution is dog shit.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

And the exicution is dog shit.

Getting off-topic, but the point is that when it comes to their propaganda, their execution as you said

Unko Desu(It’s shit)

Aren’t SJWs like a VERY small but VERY vocal portion of the West? The rest are Liberals who are mostly normal till the topic of politics gets in

And contrary to whatever High Education they got, they may have a VERY abridged version of knowledge when it comes to things like science, history, philosophy and so on and are more into Pop Science and Pop History than actual science and history

So they’re not gonna be interested in actually really evaluating the possible unintentional consequences of their supposedly highly logical and “supported by science” decisions like this one which will probably conveniently ignore how it takes time to learn how to farm as it’s much more complicated than throwing seeds and putting water over them

 

[Vaermina]

Well, there's one small hope

The fact that most if not all the entertainment they touch gets into something as others have said

Bertolt Brecht - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The "Brechtian Philosophy" or simply put, it's way too hamfisted or priorities "the message" over the delivery and execution way too much

Supposedly this is for "Young Adults" but even I can tell, that the guys in charge of these attempted propaganda pieces probably don't really know their audience

It's easy to be "Anti-Establishment" when the Establishment itself constantly supports and allows for whatever you do and punishes those who might stop you

That said, parents have to actually educate their kids, otherwise they're probably gonna go decide whatever "moral lessons" or "historical lessons" and as such that the Entertainment they watch is 100% "relevant to reality" and will act as if they're super "mature" revolutionaries who think socialism's 100% a solution because Stellaris or Star Trek showed them how easy it would be to implement all those programs

Actually it's a woman in charge of that particular piece, and to quote her on why it exists.

“I really wanted to do something that was family-oriented and I've always wanted to do a mother-daughter story, and I've always wanted to do a story about a fat character, and it just kind of evolved from there,”

She was basically paid to make a YA book about Starfire and given no real oversight so wrote a story about her own life instead.

But someone apparently noticed because she has been very clear recently that.

"To be super clear, this is a version of Starfire, not ‘in continuity’ Starfire,"

This version of starfire has no real connection to the actual DC character.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

Actually it's a woman in charge of that particular piece, and to quote her on why it exists.

“I really wanted to do something that was family-oriented and I've always wanted to do a mother-daughter story, and I've always wanted to do a story about a fat character, and it just kind of evolved from there,”

She was basically paid to make a YA book about Starfire and given no real oversight so wrote a story about her own life instead.

But someone apparently noticed because she has been very clear recently that.

"To be super clear, this is a version of Starfire, not ‘in continuity’ Starfire,"

This version of starfire has no real connection to the actual DC character.

that's good at least. Still not sure if it's going to be good. Especial since from what I've seen it's going to hit every single millennial clique in the playbook.

 

[Vaermina]

That's good at least. Still not sure if it's going to be good. Especial since from what I've seen it's going to hit every single millennial clique in the playbook.

It's not going to be good.

But then, it's a niche product marketed to overweight teen lesbians. So it was never really about being good, or even internally consistant, it was about making that small niche group feel represented.

 

[Deleted member 88]

That's your opinion.

Are you willing to do what needs to be done to see what your talking about to the end? If you aren't, if you lack the stomach and spine, then it is simply complaining.

And even if you were, the organizations, and apparatus to do so do not exist. And I can tell you, it will make you very vulnerable if you get it.

I would question if anyone, is really truly willing to go to the lengths necessary to salvage things.

Count the cost, and see if you can pay the toll.

 

[AndrewJTalon]

Anyway, Invictus being a defeatist pussy aside, this anti-white education seems more like it will backfire horribly on Leftists and us too, given most of them are white themselves. Thoughts?

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Anyway, Invictus being a defeatist pussy aside, this anti-white education seems more like it will backfire horribly on Leftists and us too, given most of them are white themselves. Thoughts?

From what I can tell, it's rather demoralising and probably something that makes kids want to(secretly)skip school more often.

Problem is that when people feel alone or have a relatively hard time finding others who'd admit their sick of it

Not from the West, but from what I can tell regarding you Westerners' schools, you're possibly more "social" or have more emphasis on mingling or even making cliques

Sure people want to go outdoors, but that doesn't necessarily mean they remotely like school or can remotely stand office life

 

[AndrewJTalon]

From what I can tell, it's rather demoralising and probably something that makes kids want to(secretly)skip school more often.

Problem is that when people feel alone or have a relatively hard time finding others who'd admit their sick of it

Finding other social media outlets that aren't under Facebook and Google's thumbs would give them more avenues. I suggest making young people aware of these whenever possible.

 

[Deleted member 88]

Anyway, Invictus being a defeatist pussy aside, this anti-white education seems more like it will backfire horribly on Leftists and us too, given most of them are white themselves. Thoughts?

Jesus H Christ you are a retarded fucking moron.

You brought up "taking up arms".

Your apparently so super dense you couldn't read my implication. That being, for what your saying coming to pass is fucking hard. It fucking costs a lot. Both in resources, time, and money, and also in blood and souls. A cost you are definitely unwilling to pay.

You want "taking up arms", fine, look up the Russian Civil War or Yugoslavia. Read about what the price was, and get back to me.

I doubt you have the stomach to do or resolve to actually do a tenth of what was done in those conflicts. You certainly don't have the conviction, nor the ruthlessness, you don't even have the heart.