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I assume that you meant "ruling" here, though.
No both. The supremacy clause puts the feds above the state and local government. Yes this means that state judges can't make rulings counter to the constitution, but also the state legislature can't make laws against federal law, AND they can't make laws that the feds control entirely like immigration.

 
No both. The supremacy clause puts the feds above the state and local government. Yes this means that state judges can't make rulings counter to the constitution, but also the state legislature can't make laws against federal law, AND they can't make laws that the feds control entirely like immigration.


So United States really are a tyranny. Great.
 
So United States really are a tyranny. Great.
...No, there is a well-defined process that retains significant limits to this day. You may not like that process or where those limits are because you either don't understand what a notional state is or refuse to recognize its legitimacy, but as we're seeing with the current administration many safeguards against abuse are still present and usable.
 
Explain how it’s a tyranny?
United States are, well, United. States.

So if the federal law overrides state law in any instance pertaining internal management of the state - so basically, anything other than the foreign relations (edit: incl. trade) and military - that is automatically tyrannical.

In this case, if federal government wants to allow immigration, it can do so - but only as long as each state can decide whether to accept the immigrants or not.
 
United States are, well, United. States.

So if the federal law overrides state law in any instance pertaining internal management of the state - so basically, anything other than the foreign relations and military - that is automatically tyrannical.

In this case, if federal government wants to allow immigration, it can do so - but only as long as each state can decide whether to accept the immigrants or not.
Your third paragraph is something interesting we could debate later when I’m not on a phone.

But for the rest it sounds like you would support a confederation instead of a federation. But aren’t you a monarchist? Pretty much every king has tried to centralize their states and break the regional power of the nobility. I remember you simped for the Hapsburgs. They did that too so where they tyrants?
 
think you missed my point in that it's the responsibility of the Fed to Set the laws for immigration. If the state then says that they are going to empower their people to obstruct the Fed, which is what Sanctuary regions are doing, they are actively breaking federal law.
That's not what they are doing. They aren't mandating taking active actions to hamper the Feds, they forbid taking action to help the Feds. That second thing is legal, the first is not.
Sanctuary cities ALSO:
The ALSO stuff is against the law.

But the president still doesn't have the power to stop funding the cities (that's congress). What he can do is hire more enforcement agents and mobilize the guard.
 
The ALSO stuff is against the law.
exactly. and that is the point.

if they are doing 9 outright illegal things and 1 technically legal but immoral thing. packaged together under a singular package of "sanctuary city".
then we can confidentially call the package that is "sanctuary cities" illegal.

because they are NOT just carefully toeing the line and doing only "technically legal" things. They are brazenly breaking the law
But the president still doesn't have the power to stop funding the cities (that's congress). What he can do is hire more enforcement agents and mobilize the guard.
From a strict constitutional originalist perspective?
funding control is the power of congress.

But the democrats are the ones who created all this precedent of presidential powers being way more than what the constitution says.
We tried to warn them. We told them, that if they open that pandora box, they wouldn't like it when we get a president in.
They refused to listen.

Since the president is stepping on Congress' toes by doing so, then Congress is free to tell the president no...
but they are fully supporting the president on this subject.
because congress is currently held by the republican party who are actively supporting trump in this. which is exactly how previous democrat presidents created precedents.

And. just like they argued it is entirely within the president's remit to order the DAs to not answer calls about illegal invaders. You could also argue it is entirely within the president's remit to fire anyone in the treasury department that sends funds he does not agree to.

After all, congress' "control over the purse strings" lies in the passing of budget bills. Not in the actual physical distribution of funds, that part is done by the executive.

Ultimately, we have checks and balanced. President, Congress, Supreme Court.
If two of them agree on something, it gets done.
So currently we have Trump + Congress in lockstep. With Supreme court sometimes on trump's side and sometime's not.

This is what we voted for.
This is the will of the people being executed.
 

"How dare you deport children who are American citizens!" "Actually, we deported their mothers, and their mothers took their children with them."


NYT journalist claims the judge that got arrested was "heroic" for trying to aid a violent criminal escape ICE.
 

"How dare you deport children who are American citizens!" "Actually, we deported their mothers, and their mothers took their children with them."

I transcribed the debate between the evil news witch and Marco Rubio.

>> evil news witch
> Marco Rubio

Article:
>> Let me ask you, is everyone on US soil, citizen and non citizen entitled to due process.

> Yes of course. but let me tell you it looks immigration standing the laws are very specific.
> If you are in this country unlawfully you have no right to be here and must be removed
> somehow over the last 20 years we have completely lost this notion that someone or completely adopted this idea:
> that yes we have all kind of immigration laws. but once you come into our country illegally it triggers all kinds of rights that can keep you indefinitely.
> that is why we are being flooded at the border. and we have ended that. and that is why you see a historic number of people not just trying to cross our border but trying to cross the border into panama all the way down in the darian gap.
> so it has been a huge help for those countries as well

> on the headlines that is a misleading headline ok.
> 3 us citizens ages 2, 4, and 7 were not deported.
> their mothers who were here illegally were deported
> their children went with ther mothers
> if those children are us citizens they can come back into the united states if there is someone here, their father who wants to assume them.
> but ultimately who was deported was their mothers, because it was their mothers who were here illegally
> the children just went with their mothers.
> but it wasn't like, you guys make it sound like ice kicked down the door and grabbed the 2 year old and put him on an airplane. that is misleading, that is just not true.

>> just to be clear because I do want to get to the overhaul at the state department
>> is it the us policy to deport children, even us citizens, with their families
>> and I hear what you are saying, without due process, just to be very clear there.

> well. no no no. again
> if someone is in this country, unlawfully, illegally, that person gets deported.
> if that person is with a 2 year old child or has a 2 year old child and says
> I want to take my child with you, with me. you have 2 choices.
> you can say, yes of course you can take your child whether they are a citizen or not, because it is your child.
> or you can say, yes you can go, but your child must stay behind, and then your headlines would read
> "us holding hostage 2 year old, 4 year, 7 year old while mother deported".

> so, the mother, the parents make that choice. I imagine those 3 usa citizens have fathers here in the united states.
> they can stay with their fathers. that is up to the family to decide where the children go. children go with their parents, parents decide where their children go.
> the us deported their mothers who were illegally in america.
 
> or you can say, yes you can go, but your child must stay behind, and then your headlines would read
> "us holding hostage 2 year old, 4 year, 7 year old while mother deported".
They would have loved to write such headlines about US taking children hostage and breaking up families.

I also "love" how the democrats suddenly think feel that if a woman has any children it means she is somehow immune to the law. But only if she is a pet of their causes.

They never asked nor care about seperating children from parents when they were arresting J6ers.
 
The last status I heard on one of the children was that the father DID NOT want them to leave and there was no evidence publicly known that the mother (who was the one deported) wanted them to leave. Does anyone have more info? This was the 2-year-old in Louisiana.
 

One Last Dance: St. Louis Woman Twerking on Roof of Cadillac Slips Off and Is Run Over by a Fire Truck
 
Your third paragraph is something interesting we could debate later when I’m not on a phone.

But for the rest it sounds like you would support a confederation instead of a federation. But aren’t you a monarchist? Pretty much every king has tried to centralize their states and break the regional power of the nobility. I remember you simped for the Hapsburgs. They did that too so where they tyrants?

Medieval monarchs generally opposed the power of the magnates... by supporting the power of the cities and small nobility. It is only with modernism and absolute monarchy, which coopted the magnates, that we get the centralization. Free royal cities were a thing for a reason.


Overall, even the early 20th century absolute monarchy (e.g. Austria-Hungary, Russian Empire) was less centralized and tyrannical than your average Western "representative democracy" is in the early 21st century.

And that trend scares me.

That being said, the main reason I support the monarchy is because, well, 1) there is only so much one man can manage and 2) when a person owns the state, they are less likely to screw their subjects over for the sake of a good paycheck.
 
It is only with modernism and absolute monarchy, which coopted the magnates, that we get the centralization.
Which precipitated because the Kings' other efforts at consolidating power hit the breakpoint where managing their estates required the very same communication as the centralization. The informal power dynamics you call for caved in with far less pressure for far less time than modern Republican devolution of government. For such things to endure, they have to be formalized into law so that a wide range of people are justified to give any defector the boot.
 
even the early 20th century absolute monarchy (e.g. Austria-Hungary,
???
Akshualy ... A-H was a democracy. The A part even had universal male suffrage, something the UK did NOT have. I wonder why this goes undermentioned in English language sources ...
 

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