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Breaking News January 6th Stop the Steal Rally & Capitol Breaching/Storming
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But that sounds based tho.
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Great Britain is a republic, with a hereditary president, while the United States is a monarchy with an elective king, -The Knoxville Journal, 1896
While cheeky, there's some truth to the quote, the President of the United States acts far more like a King, including traditional kingly powers like being able to grant pardons for crimes, than most prime ministers do.
The waters there are muddy, elective monarchies seem to be an inherently unstable form of government and historically most of them either turn into hereditary monarchies in short order or dissolve into republics. As every one of them is different, classification can be messy and some nations will deliberately choose terms that don't really apply to muddy things further, like the People's Democratic Republic of Korea which is the world's only Necrocracy, and also a hereditary dictatorship.
That's because the Parliamentary systems don't have the tri-lateral set up the US has, rather they have a bilateral one.
Functionally, as anyone who's taken US Civics knows, the US Federal government is divided into three main branches each branch effectively outlined in Articles 1 to 3 of the US Constitution. Those are the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial Branches. All three interact but are fundamentally separate in day to day operations from each other. We call them "co-equal" branches, but they're really not, on paper the most powerful is by far the Legislative, followed by the Executive, with the weakest being the Judicial. In current practice the most powerful is arguably the Executive, followed by the Legislative, with the Judicial still being the weakest.
In a Parliamentary system you do not have a separate Executive and Legislative branch, they're functionally one and the same with the Prime Minister acting as the head of the Executive Branch. This is why there's so many differences in how Presidential Republics operate as opposed to Parliamentary Republics.
As to why the US has this structure, you have to remember that the primary operating government in the American colonies at the time were their State level ones. These originated in colonial times and were typically structured with these three branches, but they had them structured that way for different reasons. You typically had a bicameral legislature with an upper and lower house, lower house based on population and upper house more on geography. Meanwhile you also had the Governor, who was appointed by England and as such represented the Crown and interests of England in the colony (you'll note all commonwealth nations still have these Crown Governors though their role has largely become symbolic). Finally local judges were either appointed by the legislature or by local elections.
Once the American colonies rebelled their local governments just patched the Crown appointed governor role with a locally elected one and basically kept all the traditional powers the Crown Governors had (including, importantly, the ability to sign or veto legislation) and just kept on. It was this model, ubiquitous throughout the early US, that the Federal government model then replicated, with the office of the President being modeled on both the powers that Crown Governors had as well as what were traditionally powers of the monarchy.
Basically, the US President, and US State Governors, have powers more associated with Monarchs because their role directly evolved from Monarchical roles in government. Which is different from Prime Ministers who's role in Parliamentary systems evolved from, well, the Prime Minister of the Monarch rather than the Monarch themselves. In the US the traditional powers of the Prime Minister are more or less divided between three other offices: the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the President Pro Tempore of the Senate, and the President's Chief of Staff.
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I would totally like to see a Turtledove style story on that timeline tbh
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I guess a reason Washington was reluctant to take such a route may have to do with his children.
Do you know about them? Of course you don't, because he didn't have any. His wife had 2 on her first marrige and Washington helped raised them but as such they would have been likely invalid for succession and you really don't wanna have a succession crisis this early into a nation, much less when it could have been trivial for relatives of the Washington family who were still in the UK or even ones in the US to be swayed with good money to deploy the age old "bigger army policy" and take the throne.
For such a scenario either have Washington marry a different woman or have Martha be more fertile and give him a good son just to get the idea of the ground.
Now for some IMPORTANT NEWS!
The so-called 'QAnon Shaman' Jacob Chansley has been released from the Halfway House he was spending the rest of his period of twenty nine months in federalcaptivity in or whatever and has been released back into the wild. He apparently taught classes in metaphysics while incarcerated and has a business plan to keep him busy.
Selling yoga pants, mouse pads, phone cases and a clothing line for kids. Some of the merch has apparently already sold out within days of release.
Ironic... his business is going to last longer then Vice Medias...
But anyways, here's a movie poster for QultFellas.
He's also planning on starting a podcast, milking his felonious celebrity for interviews and media appearances, and offering courses, including one on one courses at his 'Forbidden Truth Academy.'
Does this not violate the terms of his probation or parole or something? Apparently not.
nypost.com
He also has a Twitter Account where you can find out how to help him sustain his new lifestyle of bookings and promos.
The so-called 'QAnon Shaman' Jacob Chansley has been released from the Halfway House he was spending the rest of his period of twenty nine months in federalcaptivity in or whatever and has been released back into the wild. He apparently taught classes in metaphysics while incarcerated and has a business plan to keep him busy.
Selling yoga pants, mouse pads, phone cases and a clothing line for kids. Some of the merch has apparently already sold out within days of release.
Ironic... his business is going to last longer then Vice Medias...
But anyways, here's a movie poster for QultFellas.
He's also planning on starting a podcast, milking his felonious celebrity for interviews and media appearances, and offering courses, including one on one courses at his 'Forbidden Truth Academy.'
Does this not violate the terms of his probation or parole or something? Apparently not.
‘QAnon Shaman’ Jacob Chansley out of halfway house — and peddling bizarre merch
“QAnon Shaman” Jacob Chansley is selling mugs, children’s clothes and pictures of himself – among other merch – amid his newfound freedom.
nypost.com
He also has a Twitter Account where you can find out how to help him sustain his new lifestyle of bookings and promos.
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Retards on the left genuinely believe that the people in that little riot are literally Hitler and wanted them to get life in prison.
Considering how they want to put every one who disagrees with them into gulags, they would have wanted to do so riot or not.
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Yeah, well they should be careful what they wish for. God help us all.
The law of political retailation is pretty much iron clad, it might take awhile but the tactics you use on others will be used on you eventually.
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A NATIONAL DISGRACE: Photos Leaked of Horrific January 6 Prisoner Abuse – Tortured 5 Months in Isolation in a Closet Room with Light on and a Bucket for a Toilet — Where are the ACLU, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch?
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As much as I'd hate sounding like a complete edgy teenager here, this really does sum up what I think is going on.
"You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go 'according to plan.' Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all 'part of the plan'. But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds."
-The Joker, The Dark Knight
The reason why no one, not the ACLU, Amnesty International, the Humans Rights Watch or the Republican Party? Is because they don't care. It's all part of the plan.
Well, their plan.
A NATIONAL DISGRACE: Photos Leaked of Horrific January 6 Prisoner Abuse - Tortured 5 Months in Isolation in a Closet Room with Light on and a Bucket for a Toilet -- Where are the ACLU, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch? | The Gateway Pundit |
January 6 political prisoner Ryan Samsel has been held in prison without trial now since January 2021.
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Aug. 17, 2023 7:45 am
A NATIONAL DISGRACE: January 6 prisoner Ryan Samsel pictured in the closet room he was held in for 5 months in isolation.
January 6 political prisoner Ryan Samsel has been held in prison without trial now since January 2021.
During his two-and-a-half years without trial Ryan has been moved around to 17 different facilities. Ryan has been beaten, abused, tortured, and neglected since his arrest in January 2021.
Earlier this week The Gateway Pundit received exclusive photos from Ryan Samsel's prison cell at the FDC in Philadelphia. The cell was a size of a closet with a light on all of the time. The cell had a thin blue mattress, no sheets or blankets, no clothing, and he was kept here for five months straight.
The photos are just shocking. This is taking place in America today. This is who we are.
Ryan told The Gateway Pundit in a conversation this week, "I was kept in … a hard cell. And in that particular cell about five, six months. I even told you what was happening is the judge was actually calling, trying to get in contact with me because I wasn't in a named cell. They were missing me and they were saying I wasn't showing up to court. They were saying I wasn't showing up to medical. But they were pretty much keeping me in there… Like I said, it was cold, the light was on, there's zero window. And that followed me from Virginia. When I was in Virginia, it was the same exact conditions."
Ryan described the same situation in Virginia, "It was Central Regional Virginia Jail (CVRJ). I was kept in and they called it booking hard cell, which is you get zero phone, zero commissary, zero clothing because they think that you're going to hang yourself and you're on constant surveillance. You're under surveillance constantly. The light has to be on 24/7. You're locked in a cell. There is no getting out. The windows in Virginia were covered by a black mat, so you weren't able to see. And it's constant nothing. It's deprivation of everything."
Ryan told The Gateway Pundit that there are no books allowed, no letters, no photos. Nothing. The yellow bucket was his toilet.
** Ryan Samsel described what Ray Epps whispered to him on January 6 in a previous post.
Ryan believes the government tortured him for months so he would rat out the Proud Boys. They even beat Ryan numerous times and kept him locked down so he couldn't communicate with anyone.
This torture is taking place in America today.
Where is the Republican Party?
Where is the ACLU, Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch?
Please contact these organizations here:
** Contact ACLU
** Contact Amnesty International
** Contact Human Rights Watch
Ryan is not alone. Numerous January 6 prisoners have been held for months in torturous conditions, dozens have been sentenced to extreme sentences for non-violent crimes. This is a horrible chapter in American history. It must be confronted.
What happened to the courageous human rights activists in America?
** And please donate to help raise money for Ryan to pay his attorney here.
As much as I'd hate sounding like a complete edgy teenager here, this really does sum up what I think is going on.
"You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go 'according to plan.' Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all 'part of the plan'. But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds."
-The Joker, The Dark Knight
The reason why no one, not the ACLU, Amnesty International, the Humans Rights Watch or the Republican Party? Is because they don't care. It's all part of the plan.
Well, their plan.
Just another sign that there's something very broken in America.
So this is horrific, no questions asked. But also not uniquely horrific. This cell already existed before J6, and held prisoners then. And nearly no one deserves to live like this, unless they should be on death row (and even then, we don't want the government doing it because it teaches cruelty).
This is why, for the record, things like Bail Reform and other criminal justice reform got passed. Because people saw the inhumanity of what was happening, and wanted to stop it. Now was Bail Reform the right method? No. The Prisons need more and better funding. I'm not asking for Norway quality prisons, but some basics would be better.
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Its not even the first time we've seen the Jan 6th prisoners treated badly.
That's the thing though. A lot of prisoners are treated badly this way. It's not being done special for the J6 protestors, there's just enough of them that they fall through the same cracks in the system all other prisoners fall through.
Endless waits for trials and horrific pretrial conditions are the norm. Listen to anyone on Youtube talk about prison: they'll tell you pretrial is some of the worst stuff. I remember hearing a guy that was in pretrial for 10 years, which was basically the most he could have been charged with.
Why is this done? Causes more plea deals, specifically because of time served. But more? It's simple apathy.
Completely and utterly broken.
This is fucking disgusting and I hope it generates all the outrage that it should.
Not that I expect any empathy from the left wing fucks. Even though if the parties were reversed we would feel empathy.
Remember they WANT and SUPPORT this!
Bro it's worse than "they don't care."A NATIONAL DISGRACE: Photos Leaked of Horrific January 6 Prisoner Abuse – Tortured 5 Months in Isolation in a Closet Room with Light on and a Bucket for a Toilet — Where are the ACLU, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch?
A NATIONAL DISGRACE: Photos Leaked of Horrific January 6 Prisoner Abuse - Tortured 5 Months in Isolation in a Closet Room with Light on and a Bucket for a Toilet -- Where are the ACLU, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch? | The Gateway Pundit |
January 6 political prisoner Ryan Samsel has been held in prison without trial now since January 2021.
As much as I'd hate sounding like a complete edgy teenager here, this really does sum up what I think is going on.
"You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go 'according to plan.' Even if the plan is horrifying! If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, nobody panics, because it's all 'part of the plan'. But when I say that one little old mayor will die, well then everyone loses their minds."
-The Joker, The Dark Knight
The reason why no one, not the ACLU, Amnesty International, the Humans Rights Watch or the Republican Party? Is because they don't care. It's all part of the plan.
Well, their plan.
This is what they WANT. They're happy about it. There's been stories of this abuse circulating for YEARS. This is just more of the same. They're not doing anything about it because they want those people tortured.
I've seen reactions around the internet to this shit though.
This is different, because usually the left is against shitty prison conditions and torturous shit like this. This is something they regularly call out. J6 prisoners, though? I've instead seen those same types cheering it on, or ignoring it, when it comes to J6.
Further, while it's still wrong, usually this kind of treatment is reserved for the worst prisoners who are a danger to themselves and others, and usually solitary confinement isn't for a duration of almost 3 years. Also, this guy was missing court dates and basically had fallen partially out of the system.
Sorry, but while I agree that it's fucked up in general, this is far more fucked up, and it's not being ignored due to apathy. It's due to malice.
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That's the key word here. It's one thing if they put some psycho killer who tries to bite guards at every opportunity there, but that guy did nothing of this sort that would warrant him being treated worse than actual hardcore terrorists in Guantanamo, and then there is possibly the bigger issue of timeframe involved.
But there wasn't. When this was done for decades to people caught for misdemeanors, no sympathy was given.
Look, There absolutely is something broken in the criminal justice system. But people on the right are only seeing it now because wrongfully prosecuted people are being put through it that align with them.
The solution is major prison reform. This should not be happening. Prison rape should not be so common it's a punchline.
No, 'they don't care' is exactly what is happening. They aren't happy about it or unhappy about it, they just don't really view them as human and don't care what happens. Never underestimate how much evil apathy can do.
Yeah, except most everyone before this guy who was put here also didn't deserve it. This cell likely held countless people who didn't deserve it.
And even those who do deserve it? They at least deserve the Supermax facility not this shit.