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Their "Golden Age" was 100% due to inventions and knowledge of the peoples they had conquered. Their leading philosophers were Aristotelean. "Arabic" numbers were really an Indian invention. In the Islamic world there was always the undertow back towards the mindset that the Koran was perfect and that anything else was therefore unneeded.

We have "I don't need any book other then muh King James Bible" type people in Western Christianity too., but we don't put them in charge of anything important.
This is hilariously ignorant bro. Like a quick wikipedia search should correct you.

Some of it is questionable but most of the list is legitimate for instance:
They did not INVENT Algebra because Ancient Egypt, Greece, and Babylon used it. But the Muslims were the first Arabic mathematicians established algebra as an independent discipline, and gave it the name "algebra" (al-jabr). They were the first to teach algebra in an elementary form and for its own sake.
  • Chess manual: The oldest known chess manual was in Arabic and dates to 840–850, written by Al-Adli ar-Rumi (800–870), a renowned Arab chess player, titled Kitab ash-shatranj (Book of Chess). During the Islamic Golden Age, many works on shatranj were written, recording for the first time the analysis of opening moves, game problems, the knight's tour, and many more subjects common in modern chess books.[27]
  • Automatic crank: The non-manual crank appears in several of the hydraulic devices described by the Banū Mūsā brothers in their Book of Ingenious Devices.[28] These automatically operated cranks appear in several devices, two of which contain an action which approximates to that of a crankshaft, anticipating Al-Jazari's invention by several centuries and its first appearance in Europe by over five centuries. However, the automatic crank described by the Banu Musa would not have allowed a full rotation, but only a small modification was required to convert it to a crankshaft.[25]: 23–24 
  • Conical valve: A mechanism developed by the Banu Musa, of particular importance for future developments, was the conical valve, which was used in a variety of different applications.[25]: 23 
  • Control valve: The Banu Musa brothers are credited with the first known use of conical valves as automatic controllers.[29]
  • Cryptanalysis and frequency analysis: In cryptology, the first known recorded explanation of cryptanalysis was given by Al-Kindi (also known as "Alkindus" in Europe), in A Manuscript on Deciphering Cryptographic Messages. This treatise includes the first description of the method of frequency analysis.[30][31]
  • Double-seat valve: It was invented by the Banu Musa, and has a modern appearance in their Book of Ingenious Devices.
Hard soap: Hard toilet soap with a pleasant smell was produced in the Middle East during the Islamic Golden Age, when soap-making became an established industry. Recipes for soap-making are described by Muhammad ibn Zakariya al-Razi (c. 865–925), who also gave a recipe for producing glycerine from olive oil. In the Middle East, soap was produced from the interaction of fatty oils and fats with alkali. In Syria, soap was produced using olive oil together with alkali and lime. Soap was exported from Syria to other parts of the Muslim world and to Europe.
Sharbat and soft drink: In the medieval Middle East, a variety of fruit-flavoured soft drinks were widely drunk, such as sharbat, and were often sweetened with ingredients such as sugar, syrup and honey. Other common ingredients included lemon, apple, pomegranate, tamarind, jujube, sumac, musk, mint and ice. Middle Eastern drinks later became popular in medieval Europe, where the word "syrup" was derived from Arabic.
Inheritance of hemophilia: First proposed by Abu Al-Zahrawi was first to record and suggest that hemophilia was an inherited disease
  • Anesthetic sponge: Invented by al-Zahrawi and Ibn Zuhr. Used a sponge soaked with narcotic drugs and placed it on patient's face.[101] These Muslim physicians were the first to use an anesthetic sponge.[102]
Though Armies since the Ancient World have always used music. Modern European nations(and by ozmoses all other armies) have marching bands that are inspired by Ottoman traditions.
Joint invention with an Italian.
Invented in the Mughal dynasty of India. Which was Muslim you know. Yes the Mughal dynasty which built many famous Indian monuments like the Taj Mahal was a Muslim dynasty.


Yeah so a question like "What have Muslims ever contributed to humanity?" Is a pretty dumb question.

There are no "but" here. There is enough to blame Islam for without destroying your credibility with lies even a half educated reader can see through.
WTF? Are you talking about? How am I "destroying my credibility" by saying nothing? I never said Scotty was right. I'm not obligated to correct everyone who makes a wrong statement.

At any rate, I sometimes wonder if modern Christians hate Islam because they envy it. Christianity is really not the religion a modern Evangelical, with their deification of cruelty and power, would love. It is a religion made for the compassionate, for the downtrodden, for the saintly.

Not for people who fly in private jets and live in grand mansions with the tithes of their gullible supporters. Nor for people who salivate over the chapters about the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, or the Deluge, or the 10 Plagues, but would cut their own tongues out before they talk about charity or humility or turning the other cheek.
Aren't you the one who usually simps for fiscal conservatives that are "fuck the poor I got mine!" Anyway most Christians besides evangelicals and neo protestants do support compassion for the downtrodden and helping the sick and the poor.
 
How am I "destroying my credibility" by saying nothing
Sorry for the misunderstanding, I didn't mean you. I meant that lies destroy credibility.

you the one who usually simps for fiscal conservatives that are "fuck the poor I got mine
No.
Anyway most Christians besides evangelicals and neo protestants do support compassion for the downtrodden and helping the sick and the poor.
Quite true. Evangelicals are unusual.
 
Mind reading about what the Northern Crusades were? The destruction of the Cathars? 30 Years War?

While at it, also read about where we got algebra, the number system, and also give some time to the Islamic Golden Age.
1.Northern Crusades - german idea,stopped by Poland.And,in 1415,pope and Church agreed to polish idea that pagans could have their own states,and are not property of german emperors.

2.Cathars was death cult which divided people into ruling elites which wanted suicide,and massess who could fuck whatever they like becouse this world do not matter.Killing them was right thing.

3. 30-years war - protestants tried to wipe out catholics.They failed,and survived only thanks to french catholics help.


Algebra - arabs get it from greeks,numbers - from India,and golden age was all greek philosophy.
 
1.Northern Crusades - german idea,stopped by Poland.And,in 1415,pope and Church agreed to polish idea that pagans could have their own states,and are not property of german emperors.

2.Cathars was death cult which divided people into ruling elites which wanted suicide,and massess who could fuck whatever they like becouse this world do not matter.Killing them was right thing.

3. 30-years war - protestants tried to wipe out catholics.They failed,and survived only thanks to french catholics help.


Algebra - arabs get it from greeks,numbers - from India,and golden age was all greek philosophy.
1. Yeah you are leaving out quite a bit of info. Like the fact that Poland asked for and invited the Teutonic Order in to deal with the pagans.

2. Fair enough.

3. Yup.

As for the last thing EVERYONE improves on what was given before. Can we say western nations did not invent machine guns, and tanks and etc. because China invented gunpowder first and used it in a more primitive way?
 
1. Yeah you are leaving out quite a bit of info. Like the fact that Poland asked for and invited the Teutonic Order in to deal with the pagans.
Indeed.And we paid for that later.
To be precise - Mazovian prince/Konrad Mazowiecki/ had problem with invading prussians,and murdered his best commander who was capable of dealing with them.
So what he did ? welcomed german monks,of course.Who take part of his lands later as "thank you"

One of many times,when our rulers fucked our country becouse they were,well,cunts.
2. Fair enough.

3. Yup.

As for the last thing EVERYONE improves on what was given before. Can we say western nations did not invent machine guns, and tanks and etc. because China invented gunpowder first and used it in a more primitive way?
Only in small numbers in muslim case - they rarely improved anything.
Which is logical - science mean seeking laws of Nature,and for muslims such laws could not exists.Becouse everything is thanks to Allah whims.
 
Indeed.And we paid for that later.
To be precise - Mazovian prince/Konrad Mazowiecki/ had problem with invading prussians,and murdered his best commander who was capable of dealing with them.
So what he did ? welcomed german monks,of course.Who take part of his lands later as "thank you"

One of many times,when our rulers fucked our country becouse they were,well,cunts.
Yup this is relavent.


Only in small numbers in muslim case - they rarely improved anything.
Which is logical - science mean seeking laws of Nature,and for muslims such laws could not exists.Becouse everything is thanks to Allah whims.
I mean I just got done making a huge ass list of what they did. It's not really rare it's quite a lot. See there is a hierarchy at the top are Eastern Orthodox, Catholics, and Buddhists.
Then are high church protestants,
Then higher tier pagans like Ancient Greeks or Asians(though this might go with Buddhist)
Then Muslims,
Then it's the average pagan
then low church protestants,
and finally at the bottom are your tribal tier pagans and shamans who are animists.
 
Historical arguments are irrelevant anyway. The Christian Church in the West is, except for places in America, isolated from power and rapidly losing supporters. The traditionalist Christianity collapsed centuries ago.

It's nowhere near as dangerous as the Islamic community, which still has state backing in multiple countries. To put it this way: there are no Western countries where apostasy is a sin, or punishable by death.

The Christians who want to ban abortion and slaughter/reeducate vast swaths of the population and teach about Creationism in the schools are currently not much of a threat. The Muslims who want to kill literally the same swaths of people and also those who depict their Prophet, plus establish Theocracy, absolutely are.
 
Historical arguments are irrelevant anyway. The Christian Church in the West is, except for places in America, isolated from power and rapidly losing supporters. The traditionalist Christianity collapsed centuries ago.

It's nowhere near as dangerous as the Islamic community, which still has state backing in multiple countries. To put it this way: there are no Western countries where apostasy is a sin, or punishable by death.

The Christians who want to ban abortion and slaughter/reeducate vast swaths of the population and teach about Creationism in the schools are currently not much of a threat. The Muslims who want to kill literally the same swaths of people and also those who depict their Prophet, plus establish Theocracy, absolutely are.
Correct.
Here is a map of states by their official religion for reference:
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As we can see here Muslim states (various shades of green) overwhelmingly dominate the planet. Even the largest Christian-majority countries do not recognize Christianity as their official state religion, here owing to the inherent theocratic extremism of modern day Islam.
 
Yup this is relavent.


Well,nice,but prussians do not have pikemans.Schieldwall at best.
I mean I just got done making a huge ass list of what they did. It's not really rare it's quite a lot. See there is a hierarchy at the top are Eastern Orthodox, Catholics, and Buddhists.
Then are high church protestants,
Then higher tier pagans like Ancient Greeks or Asians(though this might go with Buddhist)
Then Muslims,
Then it's the average pagan
then low church protestants,
and finally at the bottom are your tribal tier pagans and shamans who are animists.
Eastern Orthodox inventions ? expect toys of ERE,notching come to mind.
 

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