Musk actually buys Twitter.

[Typhonis]

I notice Black on Black is not even present.

 

[Megadeath]

It doesn't take much to get libtards seething

I'm not sure exactly how you'd do it, but it'd certainly be interesting to see versions of that graph that weight by demographic statistics. Particularly I'd like to see ones that break down by wealth of perpetrators and victims, and a break down by race as adjusted for population percentage.

 

[Doomsought]

I notice Black on Black is not even present.

The chart is only showing cross racial crime.

 

[Jormungandr]

The chart is only showing cross racial crime.

Yeah; if Black on Black were included, we'd all need widescreen monitors to see the top of the bar on a normal resolution.

"America doesn't have a race problem, it's all MSM/shit-stirring!" is such a bullshit and naive view.

 

[Bigking321]

More like a city and gang problem.

If you take out a couple blue cities with soft on crime stuff like Chicago and New York suddenly our stats look a ton better.

 

[Jormungandr]

More like a city and gang problem.

If you take out a couple blue cities with soft on crime stuff like Chicago and New York suddenly our stats look a ton better.

Well, crime and those areas being shit-pits is a given, since they're Democrat run.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if Chicago and San Francisco turned into what they were in the Tiberium games -- Yellow and Red Zone wastelands filled with crime, trash, and being "inhospitable to human life", albeit for different reasons.

 

[Cherico]

I notice Black on Black is not even present.

neither is black on asian.

There have been a host of racist attacks on asians by the black community over the years. Which really doesn't get talked about but I've seen happen to Koreans, chinese and other asians in the ghetto.

 

[Megadeath]

neither is black on asian.

There have been a host of racist attacks on asians by the black community over the years. Which really doesn't get talked about but I've seen happen to Koreans, chinese and other asians in the ghetto.

"Asian" isn't included at all. My bet would be they're stupidly rolled in with either white or hispanic, but they could have simply just left it off as insignificant if the number are low. Not to imply they are, but also I don't think "I've seen it happen." is good evidence of statistical probability. I've seen someone replicate the LotR finger ring catch first try but that doesn't mean it happens often.

 

[Cherico]

"Asian" isn't included at all. My bet would be they're stupidly rolled in with either white or hispanic, but they could have simply just left it off as insignificant if the number are low. Not to imply they are, but also I don't think "I've seen it happen." is good evidence of statistical probability. I've seen someone replicate the LotR finger ring catch first try but that doesn't mean it happens often.

Megadeath you don't know what your talking about.

Your not an american so this isn't something you deal with and this is outside your wheel house. But hate crimes against asian people by the black community do happen. And as for my guess of why it happens.

Their a middleman minority.

Like us Jews, like the lebonese in africa, like the Ibo in africa, like indians in east africa of the chinese in south east asia. Middle men minorities across the world are involved in mercantile industries and act as middlemen. Its long hard and exausting work, but if you stick to it after decades of effort some times generations you move up the economic ladder.

And in cases where the local majority don't have the economic education to understand why this is happening or have a value system to limit envy. It can and does result in murderous rage. Which can and does turn lethal. The example of Koreans having to go on roof tops to defend their business's because the cops didn't care?

That should have been a pretty big example to you but I put in one that was more recent.

There are a lot more incidents that don't get talked about, the hate crimes against middle man minorities in america is actually a serious problem that needs to be addressed.

 

[Jormungandr]

Megadeath, you don't know what you're talking about.

Your not an American, so this isn't something you deal with and this is outside your wheelhouse. But hate crimes against Asian people by the Black community do happen. And as for my guess of why it happens?

They're a middleman minority.

Like us Jews, like the Lebanese in Africa, like the Ibo in Africa, like Indians in East Africa, like the Chinese in Southeast Asia. Middleman minorities across the world are involved in mercantile industries and act as middlemen. It's long hard and exhausting work, but if you stick to it after decades of effort sometimes generations you move up the economic ladder.

And in cases where the local majority don't have the economic education to understand why this is happening or have a value system to limit envy. It can and does result in murderous rage. Which can and does turn lethal. The example of Koreans having to go on rooftops to defend their businesses because the cops didn't care?

That should have been a pretty big example to you, but I put in one that was more recent.

There are a lot more incidents that don't get talked about, the hate crimes against middleman minorities in America are actually serious problems that needs to be addressed.

A lot of the racism I see coming from Americans is from Black people to the point where it looks to be a common cultural trend/mindset, with BLM (as an example) being expressions, not a cause, of said trend.

Whether they're actually racist or are jumping on the racist bandwagon as an excuse/motivation to just be complete assholes/cunts, however, is an issue.

"I want all this Walmart shit I just tried to steal as reparations," said the Black chick, obviously pulling the race-card to just try to excuse her being a thieving asshole.

Ironically, a lot of it seems to be coming from Black women. shrug Especially when Black men date White women.

People can deny it, call it "anecdotal", say that it's just in blah blah areas or just overrepresented by media, et cetera all they want, but those people are honestly just naive at best.

And let's not get into the hate crimes which are purposefully not reported on because the perpetrator was Black compared to if the reverse were true.

Like Megadeath, I'm not American, but you don't need to live in the States to see how your country has a massive racism problem -- people's soc-meds, their activities on camera, and people telling their stories provide windows into what a shitshow things have become, as either the victims or the perpetrators.

 

[Megadeath]

Megadeath you don't know what your talking about.

Your not an american so this isn't something you deal with and this is outside your wheel house. But hate crimes against asian people by the black community do happen. And as for my guess of why it happens.

Their a middleman minority.

Like us Jews, like the lebonese in africa, like the Ibo in africa, like indians in east africa of the chinese in south east asia. Middle men minorities across the world are involved in mercantile industries and act as middlemen. Its long hard and exausting work, but if you stick to it after decades of effort some times generations you move up the economic ladder.

And in cases where the local majority don't have the economic education to understand why this is happening or have a value system to limit envy. It can and does result in murderous rage. Which can and does turn lethal. The example of Koreans having to go on roof tops to defend their business's because the cops didn't care?

That should have been a pretty big example to you but I put in one that was more recent.

There are a lot more incidents that don't get talked about, the hate crimes against middle man minorities in america is actually a serious problem that needs to be addressed.

Cherico, you don't know how to read. I'll highlight the significant part:
"could have simply just left it off as insignificant if the number are low. Not to imply they are..." (Bolding added for emphasis.)

That said, more specific anecdotal evidence still isn't statistically meaningful. The fact that crimes by black people against asians (As well as Hispanic on Asian, Asian on white, et al.) isn't being questioned by anyone. The statistical significance of it is more unclear though, and any response that can be summed up as "This one time..." isn't going to change that.

 

[The Whispering Monk]

Followup to the post prior regarding 2018 crime statistics:

obtained from the same report that data originated from
bureau of Justice Statistics National Crime Victimization Survey, 2018

 

[Cherico]

A lot of the racism I see coming from Americans is from Black people to the point where it looks to be a common cultural trend/mindset, with BLM (as an example) being expressions, not a cause, of said trend.

Whether they're actually racist or are jumping on the racist bandwagon as an excuse/motivation to just be complete assholes/cunts, however, is an issue.

"I want all this Walmart shit I just tried to steal as reparations," said the Black chick, obviously pulling the race-card to just try to excuse her being a thieving asshole.

Ironically, a lot of it seems to be coming from Black women. shrug Especially when Black men date White women.

People can deny it, call it "anecdotal", say that it's just in blah blah areas or just overrepresented by media, et cetera all they want, but those people are honestly just naive at best.

And let's not get into the hate crimes which are purposefully not reported on because the perpetrator was Black compared to if the reverse were true.

I'm not American like Megadeath, but you don't need to live in the States to see how your country has a massive racism problem -- people's soc-meds, their activities on camera, and people telling their stories provide windows into what a shitshow things have become, as either the victims or the perpetrators.

Its a complicated issue.

Like really complicated.

And you have to remember that the US is fucking huge so what's true in the ghetto/bario/trailer park isn't going to be true somewhere else. Tomas Sowell writes extensively about what caused the whole mess and honestly I think it is fixable.

But a lot of things need to change, First thing restore the authority and respect owed to black fathers because the breakdown of the family is the core thing messing up the building of inter generational wealth. Then you have to fix the schools and honestly not just in the black community because pretty much all americans schools are shit. Its all fixable but its going to be an long generations thing.

Cherico, you don't know how to read. I'll highlight the significant part:
"could have simply just left it off as insignificant if the number are low. Not to imply they are..." (Bolding added for emphasis.)

That said, more specific anecdotal evidence still isn't statistically meaningful. The fact that crimes by black people against asians (As well as Hispanic on Asian, Asian on white, et al.) isn't being questioned by anyone. The statistical significance of it is more unclear though, and any response that can be summed up as "This one time..." isn't going to change that.

Looking at the data yes there are a lot of black hate crimes against asians.

White people occupie a large number of that to which needs to be worked on, of course this just lists the reported stuff and yes this is a problem because asians are a small number of people in the US.

The numbers bear it out there is a problem here, and once again you don't know what your talking about Megadeath. Like at all and we have talked to you about this in the past numerous times. If your not from a country and haven't done a lot of research then don't act like an arrogant know it all about their problems.

 

[Megadeath]

The numbers bear it out there is a problem here, and once again you don't know what your talking about Megadeath. Like at all and we have talked to you about this in the past numerous times. If your not from a country and haven't done a lot of research then don't act like an arrogant know it all about their problems.

And you're still an idiot. Once again, I did not say it wasn't an issue. I said the information then provided didn't show anything on the issue, and that you pointing out specific events wasn't useful evidence of trends or statistics. Fortunately, someone with at least a highschool level reading age did provide useful info, and it does indeed suggest that black on asian crime is a significant issue, in a sense. Looked at from other angles, such as the low overall total numbers, it's also easy to see how it could be left off as relatively insignificant.

As for your parochial "U aint frum here!" shit, it's still irrelevant, and still sounds hilariously hypocritical coming from an american.

 

[Cherico]

And you're still an idiot. Once again, I did not say it wasn't an issue. I said the information then provided didn't show anything on the issue, and that you pointing out specific events wasn't useful evidence of trends or statistics. Fortunately, someone with at least a highschool level reading age did provide useful info, and it does indeed suggest that black on asian crime is a significant issue, in a sense. Looked at from other angles, such as the low overall total numbers, it's also easy to see how it could be left off as relatively insignificant.

As for your parochial "U aint frum here!" shit, it's still irrelevant, and still sounds hilariously hypocritical coming from an american.

when you finish digging please tell me I've always wanted to visit china.

 

[Megadeath]

when you finish digging please tell me I've always wanted to visit china.

People like you are the reason the rest of the world has the opinion they do of the American education system.

 

[Blasterbot]

People like you are the reason the rest of the world has the opinion they do of the American education system.

The American education system is indeed shit. they are more concerned with getting taxpayer money and spreading ideology than they are with educating kids.

 

[Rocinante]

People like you are the reason the rest of the world has the opinion they do of the American education system.

More accurately, the actual reason the world thinks the US education system is shit, is because it truly us, utterly shitty.

It's more about pushing an ideology than educating children as this point. It's an absolute joke.

 

[PeaceMaker 03]

On any given year ~50% of US counties do not have any murders/ homicides.

Violent crime is heavily weighted to large metro areas. If you remove the top 6 metro areas for violent crimes in the US , the murder rate drops by ~80%.

The other thing not talked about is violent crime and illegal drugs. The two are heavily tied together. If you know someone who sells illegal drugs your chance of dying from violence is 800% higher than the mean.

 

[LordsFire]

On any given year ~50% of US counties do not have any murders/ homicides.

Violent crime is heavily weighted to large metro areas. If you remove the top 6 metro areas for violent crimes in the US , the murder rate drops by ~80%.

The other thing not talked about is violent crime and illegal drugs. The two are heavily tied together. If you know someone who sells illegal drugs your chance of dying from violence is 800% higher than the mean.

Can you give me a source or a cite on the 80% in 5 cities? That's roughly in line with what I've seen, and I'd like to use those kinds of numbers in debates in the future.