EU Muslim beheads teacher for showing Mohammed cartoons in class.

[CarlManvers2019]

Muslims were preventing Christian Pilgrims from access to holy sites in the Holy Land. Either that or they were killing them or enslaving them. Pope had enough and called for the Crusade. The first Crusade. Christians stopped at the traditional Holy Land. Islam never stopped until they were made to stop. And even they they've never stopped, they've just shifted tactics.

I'm going to be upfront. I'm not a fan of the religion. Don't hate em, Just not a fan. And they'll tell you the same thing I did.

These days, I’ve seen even on SB, people just think the Crusades were Christians being bigots and don’t even know that Muslims enslaved Africans in large numbers or invaded Europe before

Yes and no. Some will secularize, others will radicalize. Its just a matter of their experiences.

I think for some, Europe is the first place they ever managed to drink alcohol freely and look at local fashion not with disgust and lust hidden by fanatacism but a desire to engage in it

So many things they wished they could have, like even being able to read stuff like this

Without the religious police barging in on them and proceeding to punish them for their “immoral” material

Judaism is a religion of laws, Christianity is a religion of morals; but Islam, to put it bluntly, is a religion of conquest.

I think it’s more along the line of a religion for Stone-Throwers, they want to think themselves Saints and “sinless” and proceed to “punish” people they consider “sinful” and get approved for it

 

[Duke Nukem]

It's a shame what EU leaders have allowed to happen to europe.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

It's a shame what EU leaders have allowed to happen to europe.

Honestly, even the Muslims end up becoming victims as well, there end up people knowing that the authorities and the non-Muslims can’t/won’t help them due to being non-politically correct

And that those family and friends they have who would protect them would be outnumbered and ostracized and subject to Sharia Law as well

 

[Spartan303]

These days, I’ve seen even on SB, people just think the Crusades were Christians being bigots and don’t even know that Muslims enslaved Africans in large numbers or invaded Europe before

Which is BS. I'm really rusty on this but I did some history reports on the Crusades years ago. There were essentially 8 Crusades, with the First through the Third being considered legitimate by most. The fourth is when things start getting dicy. As ever, Politics began playing a role and when you add politics plus religion, no matter what religion it is, its going to end badly. After the 4th and 5th I stopped studying them as they seemed to be Crusades in name only.

 

[LifeisTiresome]

Yes and no. Some will secularize, others will radicalize. Its just a matter of their experiences.

if they secularize, it just means that they will become just like the rest of the West, decadent and having no will to do anything and thus prey to the radicals who have the will to action.

And here is the thing, so what if they do secularize but are not weak in will? They will still consider to take France for themselves away from the natives.

 

[Spartan303]

if they secularize, it just means that they will become just like the rest of the West, decadent and having no will to do anything and thus prey to the radicals who have the will to action.

And here is the thing, so what if they do secularize but are not weak in will? They will still consider to take France for themselves away from the natives.

As I said, the situation is coming to a head, one way or another.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

And here is the thing, so what if they do secularize but are not weak in will? They will still consider to take France for themselves away from the natives.

And if they DO secularize....I think they could end up becoming Communists or even outright Fascists

 

[ATP]

And in Poland we had much of the same, priesthood en masse collaborating with the Security Service apparatus. Heck, when the Round Table talks took place, part of the deal between the Catholic Church with General Kiszczak (head of security apparatus) was that security apparatus files of priests would never see the light of day (so many of them collaborated...).

Even so, the Orthodox Church was able to continue a conservative course, while Polish Catholic Church is divided into two factions: openly pinko liberals and not so openly liberals. Actually conservative priests who want to cleanse the Church of paedophiles and other shit are either sidelined (Tadeusz Isakowicz-Zaleski, Dariusz Oko) or purged (Jacek Międlar).



Reasons for Russian decline after Soviet breakup (or should I say, controlled demolition) are... multi-layered and very complicated. The "West" gave Russia all the help to make sure it stays weak and can never rise back up as challenger again.

Check out the Rape of Russia by William Engdahl.



And here's a transcript:

The Rape of Russia (Saker blog exclusive interview) | The Vineyard of the Saker

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And all the above with the Chechens was still the lesser evil. Karyrov is a moderate, hardcore ones fled Chechnya to Western Europe where they were given asylums, and now they form Sharia Patrols in Berlin for example.

Had Chechnya stay "free" it would have been much worse. Western "mainstream media" will never tell this, but the Islamic State (of Syria / Levant and Iraq) was the second attempt, first one was to be the Islamic State / Caliphate of Caucasus. Including Chechnya, Dagestan and adjacent.

Supporting islamic radicalism as means of destabilising Russian "near abroad" esp. along the southern borders is a Western sport since Soviet intervention in Afghanistan (even if using Gulf States money and as intermediaries), and islamic radicalism nested in Caucasus would have been of enormous value / use in keeping pressure up on Russia, thus reducing it's "elbow room", and forcing it to dance to Western tune.

Remember how the West decried Russian wars on Chechnya? Cheerfully ignoring that the "brave free Chechens" that heroically fought against Russia weren't in favour of liberal democracy, religious tolerance (how many Churches in Saudi Arabia again?) and gay rights in Western flavour, they wanted an Islamic Caliphate, as we saw made for a time in Iraq / Syria (gays and infidels having the right to be executed).

Hell, I personally knew a guy (Polish Tatar) with a hate-boner against Russia (though otherwise a very nice guy) who helped Chechens settle down in Poland after they lost the war and fled, and guess what? When the second attempt to create an Islamic State was being made, when word came that a new Caliphate is being forged, (this time in Syria / Iraq) they all packed up and left to fight. I trust I need not explain on which side, yes?



Assuming that Japan would be permitted to do so, which is by no means a given.

Also, look at the map to see why this handover isn't going to happen. Kuril Islands not in Russian hands means the Sea of Okhotsk is effectively a closed basin.

Overblown.

1.In Poland 8% of priests was agents,but the same goes for 30% scientist and 50% of journalists.And agents do not controlled Church,when Cyril is not agent,but KGB officer.In other worlds,orthodox church in Russia is just branch of ruling KGB mafia idiots.

2.If Russia just copied China,they would succed,no matter what USA would do.Just like China.But no,they decide to become Venezuella with H bombs instead.

3.Kadyrow is making Czeczen into islamists,but after 1992,when Dudajew ruled,they cared little about religion and more about their country.Putin blow up his own citizens to change that.
Russia could have little country who do not like them,but nobody would support them - and instead they turned them into hard core muslims,which they must fund every year.
In other worlds,they killed their own people,start war,killed more - all to pour money into turning locals into islamists.
Another proof,that KGB colonel is not fitting for become tsar.

4.Even when Putin decided to turn Russia into second Venezuella instead of second China,he could still sold oil to Japan,not China.
Japan is doing what they want,so they do not somebody permit.And so what,that Otchock sea would be closed ?
Russians had no money for Pacyfic fleet anyway,and their subs could fire their missiles from Otchock sea if WW3 come.

5.Even now there is more chineese then russian on Syberia, and in China school children are teached about their rights to part of it.

ALL in all - you could made business with Putin if he was only cryminal and mass murderer.But he is also stupid and his politics lead Russia to doom - and you do not made business with genocidal idiots.

P.S AS COMRADE PUTIN SAID,THERE IS NO EX-KGB PEOPLE - SO I DO NOT CARE HOW THEY NAME THEMSELVES NOW,FOR ME THEY ARE KGB.

 

[gral]

3.Kadyrow is making Czeczen into islamists,but after 1992,when Dudajew ruled,they cared little about religion and more about their country.Putin blow up his own citizens to change that.
Russia could have little country who do not like them,but nobody would support them - and instead they turned them into hard core muslims,which they must fund every year.
In other worlds,they killed their own people,start war,killed more - all to pour money into turning locals into islamists.
Another proof,that KGB colonel is not fitting for become tsar.

4.Even when Putin decided to turn Russia into second Venezuella instead of second China,he could still sold oil to Japan,not China.
Japan is doing what they want,so they do not somebody permit.And so what,that Otchock sea would be closed ?
Russians had no money for Pacyfic fleet anyway,and their subs could fire their missiles from Otchock sea if WW3 come.

My understanding is that if the Chechens were allowed to be independent, the next ones to seek independence would be the Tatars, and that would lead to a big shitstorm for Russia; that was the main reason they stomped on the Chechens.

As for Japan, a notion that people get(and Russia, of course, does nothing to correct, because it suits them), is that the Japanese seek all of the Kurils. What the Japanese claim is the 1855 Shimoda Treaty limit: Kunashir, Iturup, Shikotan and the Habomai islands: Kuril Islands dispute - Wikipedia . In the map above, the border would be just north of the long island that kind of resembles Okinawa(second island from Hokkaido, following the main arc of the Kuril islands). While that does allow the Japanese to cover a lot of the Okhotsk Sea mouth, it does not close it.

 

[Sailor.X]

It's a shame what EU leaders have allowed to happen to europe.

They probably should not have destroyed Libya then. Because like it or lump it Ghadaffi was literally keeping a lid on all of this mess.

 

[Arch Dornan]

They probably should not have destroyed Libya then. Because like it or lump it Ghadaffi was literally keeping a lid on all of this mess.

Once and always leaders in suits holding their martinis not thinking it through like all the past leaders not thinking it through.

 

[Aldarion]

Once and always leaders in suits holding their martinis not thinking it through like all the past leaders not thinking it through.

Or else they realized what would happen but simply didn't care. Remember that all these politicians are elected for a defined term, which means that they have only one goal: to get as rich as they can before they have to turn over the reins. They don't care about the future, because they have not invested in it.

 

[ATP]

Or else they realized what would happen but simply didn't care. Remember that all these politicians are elected for a defined term, which means that they have only one goal: to get as rich as they can before they have to turn over the reins. They don't care about the future, because they have not invested in it.

Another proof,that monarchy is better.Not absolute,of course - that would let to revolution and oligarchy.

 

[Sailor.X]

Another proof,that monarchy is better.Not absolute,of course - that would let to revolution and oligarchy.

Um Monarchies get you like every war from 4,000 BC to the Early 20th Century. If you want guaranteed wars. Have a bunch of Monarchies around.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

Um Monarchies get you like every war from 4,000 BC to the Early 20th Century. If you want guaranteed wars. Have a bunch of Monarchies around.

And get ready for Dynastic Disputes, inbreeding, a YUGE load of Royal Bastards and...well I don’t think royalty us anymore immune to authoritarian-idealism than anybody else

 

[Aldarion]

Um Monarchies get you like every war from 4,000 BC to the Early 20th Century. If you want guaranteed wars. Have a bunch of Monarchies around.

So United States, Russia, French Third Republic, United Kingdom, China... are all monarchies according to you? And frankly wars are not the worst which can happen to a country.

 

[Culsu]

Wow. You know I just listened to the news on this on my commute to work (basically about Macron's reaction to it, which boils down to the usual platitudes). Not once in the 2 minute radio clip were the words Islam, Islamization, Islamic Terror or Muslim uttered. It wasn't mentioned that the man had been beheaded, it wasn't mentioned that the perpetrator was a Chechen with a refugee status. Only the words "radicalized groups" and radicalization were used. This is an incredible omission of truth and facts by official channels.

 

[Deleted member 88]

To acknowledge the truth would discredit the whole multicultural ideology on which the European elite have invested themselves. More than that; to admit the truth would stir public passions and anger against these interlopers, and such an explosion would not leave the perfidious governments untouched...

Europeans never asked for this, but it has been imposed on them.

Their problem is that their governments are at war with them, more even than the Muslims.

 

[Arch Dornan]

To acknowledge the truth would discredit the whole multicultural ideology on which the European elite have invested themselves. More than that; to admit the truth would stir public passions and anger against these interlopers, and such an explosion would not leave the perfidious governments untouched...

They better hope not one of them starts to bite the hand that let them in and I mean the officials.

 

[Deleted member 88]

They better hope not one of them starts to bit the hand that let them in and I mean the officials.

I mean, eventually if Europe is overrun, it’s native population exterminated the Euro elite will run to NZ or some pacific island.

If the people rise up-everyone who advocated this, the politicians; think tankers, journalists, academics, all of them-would end up hanging on lampposts.

So it’s in the establishment’s interests to keep the population pacified, to not name the cause of the violence and to do ultimately nothing.