Captain X
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ATF trespassing.
I hope there's a follow-up here. Since when does the ATF concern itself with jaywalkers?
ATF trespassing.
When they want an excuse.I hope there's a follow-up here. Since when does the ATF concern itself with jaywalkers?
For what, though? What was their aim when they rolled up there?
They are claiming they were walking like they had guns, apparently. Found some more on it. This is why second Amendment support acts that ban cooperation with the feds are so important:For what, though? What was their aim when they rolled up there?
The ATF performed the Waco Siege which killed a bunch of children, they then posed heroically ontop of said charred children.For what, though? What was their aim when they rolled up there?
Agreed.It's a scam so the city can make more money.
We need to start calling them that. Even if it’s not to their faces; mostly because as we’ve seen, the USA has a two-tiered justice system and I can easily see an ATF agent using being called out as an excuse to escalate.The ATF performed the Waco Siege which killed a bunch of children, they then posed heroically ontop of said charred children.
They're the modern American version of the various SS organizations of Germany. They do what they want, when they want, and the government signs off after it's been done.
Considering the stuff the government has been up to of late? I’d be worried about getting purged. Never mind the more ‘realistic’ concern of people impersonating officers to carry out all kinds of nonsense.
what did he expect...
He's completely in his rights to come outside his house armed, especially when he very well may have had no idea who was outside.what did he expect...
He's completely in his rights to come outside his house armed, especially when he very well may have had no idea who was outside.
If you think this is okay behavior, then you allow cops to knock on all gun owners doors in hopes the homeowner comes out, then shooting them. Each time the cops could just go 'oops, we had the wrong house'.
Moreover, if you think this is fine behavior, you've at least acknowledged the cost of government existing: it will kill innocents constantly. Government kills, and it fundamentally cannot take morally good action. It at best aspires to do small, necessary, evils to avert larger ones.
Considering the stuff the government has been up to of late? I’d be worried about getting purged. Never mind the more ‘realistic’ concern of people impersonating officers to carry out all kinds of nonsense.
Not what I was saying. Maybe read next time?I don't believe in rights. I believe in common sense and an understanding of human nature. The bottom line is that in that instance, it was "him or me". Do you honestly expect the officer to take a chance with his own life when a man opens a door and has a firearm drawn on him? Especially when said officer has the legal authority to use lethal force to defend his own life?