Question. Why do White Identitarians think Whites are not as Violent as other races.

[The Name of Love]

This has nothing and I mean nothing to do with Social Justice Warriors.
1: Back during World War II they said Blacks could not be Tank Commanders and US Navy Boat Crew Gunners because of things White Nationalist like to state. That was proven wrong

2: They Said Blacks can't be Fighter Pilots for the same reason. Then the Tuskegee Airman were formed and proved them wrong again.

3: They said Blacks could not be Captains of US Navy Warships. And that was proven wrong.

4: They said Blacks couldn't be Engineers and Scientists and that was proven wrong.

5: They said Blacks couldn't be Astronauts and that was proven wrong.

At some point dude people need to look at the studies that say group X is a certain way and take it with a grain of salt.

None of those people actually disproved anything. There were no scientific studies disproving what the "white nationalists" said. Rather, the academy was filled with communists (mostly sociologists and anthropologists) screaming "racist Nazi xenophobic bigots!" like a bunch of screeching monkeys and started talking about how race was a social construct and other such nonsense.

What those particular black people did made the "white nationalists" fall out of fashion. Because nobody wants to insult a war hero, after all. But that's not a logical argument. That's emotional rhetoric.

 

[Duke Nukem]

In my opinion right wingers can be just as crazy as SJW's sometimes.

 

[Lanmandragon]

I think there comes a point where a black guy ends up being “too white” by virtue of NOT having lived or been raised in those inner city conditions, culture or people with those accents

Key & Peele sound so white because they both had one white parent and was raised by him/her, probably in the suburbs

That's actually one if the bigger issues. If your black and make money doing anything besides sports,music,or crime then your acting boogie(ie white).

 

[Deleted member]

The fundamental issue I see with racial matters is that leftists, by adopting the worldview of Popper, of modern atheist rationalism in the sense that we see fueling leftism, have to maintain an ideology of the equality of the races to justify actual political equality.

Traditionalists don't.

It is an unambiguous fact that Black people have immortal souls and therefore are my equals in the most important matter--spiritual matters--and therefore have a right of self-determination and liberty under the application of Natural Law.

If you presented me with unambiguous evidence that Blacks were less intelligent and more violent than whites, my belief in their absolute right to liberty under Natural Law and self-determination according to the reality of their immortal souls would not change one jot or iota.

But to a leftist mindset, any difference whatsoever would invalidate their grounds for declaring equality a requirement under law. Because they base equality under law in a belief in the total mental, psychological and physical equality of human beings, they would invalidate their own justification for that equality under law if there was any proof that the equality of fact was not true.

For me, that isn't necessary. That's also where the fundamental vision of Aristasians on the relations of women and men comes from: Women and men are not the same, and deserve equal power and right under law anyway. To me, that is the really brave and liberating position because I am no longer basing how I judge other human beings on traits which can in fact change over someone's life, but rather on what is immortal and timeless and given by the Almighty.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

In my opinion right wingers can be just as crazy as SJW's sometimes.

Yeah, plus I think going by my time on our sister sites, even the latter vary in-terms of said craziness and aren’t so bad or even knowing of it all

That's actually one if the bigger issues. If your black and make money doing anything besides sports,music,or crime then your acting boogie(ie white).

They’re being regular citizens with better ideas for making a lasting living then

Ever watched Like Mike 2? The MC’s dad calls him out on his obsession with basketball and tells him NOT to skip out on school and get into all of this dumb “player” shit with parties and girls and pointing out how he knows dudes who were on the high notes like him and are now homeless and on the streets because they had no other talents and wasted all that money on luxuries

 

[Lanmandragon]

Yeah, plus I think going by my time on our sister sites, even the latter vary in-terms of said craziness and aren’t so bad or even knowing of it all



They’re being regular citizens with better ideas for making a lasting living then

Ever watched Like Mike 2? The MC’s dad calls him out on his obsession with basketball and tells him NOT to skip out on school and get into all of this dumb “player” shit with parties and girls and pointing out how he knows dudes who were on the high notes like him and are now homeless and on the streets because they had no other talents and wasted all that money on luxuries

I have indeed but what I said is a serious thing. I've personally been called an Uncle Tom for being a contractor.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

I have indeed but what I said is a serious thing. I've personally been called an Uncle Tom for being a contractor.

That just means they resent you for moving up in the world in a way that only pays for the top 1% of those stuff mentioned earlier and the fact that you are saner than most of the really dumb as fuck white liberals who actually think you’re a white conservative who’s got darker skin color

 

[Sailor.X]

I have indeed but what I said is a serious thing. I've personally been called an Uncle Tom for being a contractor.

I know the feeling. I have had White Liberals call me a Baby Killer for being a Veteran. Because I dared to disagree with them on people joining the Military.

 

[The Name of Love]

In my opinion right wingers can be just as crazy as SJW's sometimes.

I concur.

The fundamental issue I see with racial matters is that leftists, by adopting the worldview of Popper, of modern atheist rationalism in the sense that we see fueling leftism, have to maintain an ideology of the equality of the races to justify actual political equality.

Traditionalists don't.

It is an unambiguous fact that Black people have immortal souls and therefore are my equals in the most important matter--spiritual matters--and therefore have a right of self-determination and liberty under the application of Natural Law.

If you presented me with unambiguous evidence that Blacks were less intelligent and more violent than whites, my belief in their absolute right to liberty under Natural Law and self-determination according to the reality of their immortal souls would not change one jot or iota.

But to a leftist mindset, any difference whatsoever would invalidate their grounds for declaring equality a requirement under law. Because they base equality under law in a belief in the total mental, psychological and physical equality of human beings, they would invalidate their own justification for that equality under law if there was any proof that the equality of fact was not true.

For me, that isn't necessary. That's also where the fundamental vision of Aristasians on the relations of women and men comes from: Women and men are not the same, and deserve equal power and right under law anyway. To me, that is the really brave and liberating position because I am no longer basing how I judge other human beings on traits which can in fact change over someone's life, but rather on what is immortal and timeless and given by the Almighty.

That’s pretty much the Christian Traditionalist view too, though we’d probably point to the story of the Tower of Babel as proof that the division of mankind into different

 

[Scottty]

That’s pretty much the Christian Traditionalist view too, though we’d probably point to the story of the Tower of Babel as proof that the division of mankind into different

That would be different languages. Differentiation into different racial phenotypes probably came later, as the dispersed peoples settled in different environments.

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

The fundamental issue I see with racial matters is that leftists, by adopting the worldview of Popper, of modern atheist rationalism in the sense that we see fueling leftism, have to maintain an ideology of the equality of the races to justify actual political equality.

Traditionalists don't.

It is an unambiguous fact that Black people have immortal souls and therefore are my equals in the most important matter--spiritual matters--and therefore have a right of self-determination and liberty under the application of Natural Law.

If you presented me with unambiguous evidence that Blacks were less intelligent and more violent than whites, my belief in their absolute right to liberty under Natural Law and self-determination according to the reality of their immortal souls would not change one jot or iota.

But to a leftist mindset, any difference whatsoever would invalidate their grounds for declaring equality a requirement under law. Because they base equality under law in a belief in the total mental, psychological and physical equality of human beings, they would invalidate their own justification for that equality under law if there was any proof that the equality of fact was not true.

For me, that isn't necessary. That's also where the fundamental vision of Aristasians on the relations of women and men comes from: Women and men are not the same, and deserve equal power and right under law anyway. To me, that is the really brave and liberating position because I am no longer basing how I judge other human beings on traits which can in fact change over someone's life, but rather on what is immortal and timeless and given by the Almighty.

One of the founders of the Republican party actually once made an argument that the fact that democrats wanted to treat blacks differently on the basis of intelligence was evidence of their sociopathy, along the lines of "They propose a philosophy where if a man is simple, you should exploit him, if a man is crippled, you should rob him" to paraphrase.

 

[CarlManvers2019]

One of the founders of the Republican party actually once made an argument that the fact that democrats wanted to treat blacks differently on the basis of intelligence was evidence of their sociopathy, along the lines of "They propose a philosophy where if a man is simple, you should exploit him, if a man is crippled, you should rob him" to paraphrase.

Only now, they decide to give people in those groups special treatment....then they gave that special treatment to other “minorities” and failed to remember that they’re still people and that they’re giving a bunch of them exceptions to stuff

Even actually letting a certain ironically highly conservative in-terms of values but NOT economic ones, get away with the worst sorts of behavior anf culture

 

[Shipmaster Sane]

In my opinion right wingers can be just as crazy as SJW's sometimes.

Well any group large enough can be as crazy as any other group sometimes if there's enough of them.

I cannot believe some of the shit I am seeing in here, though I am not terribly surprised at who is saying it.
Upbringing, environmental factors, and cultural factors play more of a factor in crime rates than race ever has. That this is even seen as debatable by some deeply disturbs me.

Race is a somewhat mutable thing, genetically. I would argue that there is a possibility that cultural damage can become genetic damage, though as I said it's difficult to tell to what extent that plays a role. i.e., that generations of say, malnutrition, or a culture that breeds selectively for negative traits, can actually compromise, in part, the psychology of a population.

 

[Deleted member]

One of the founders of the Republican party actually once made an argument that the fact that democrats wanted to treat blacks differently on the basis of intelligence was evidence of their sociopathy, along the lines of "They propose a philosophy where if a man is simple, you should exploit him, if a man is crippled, you should rob him" to paraphrase.

Exactly so. There is something rotten to the core at how leftists approach human rights and human dignity.

 

[The Name of Love]

Exactly so. There is something rotten to the core at how leftists approach human rights and human dignity.

I honestly think that all of their actions are warped because their end goal is a dystopian nightmare described in the lyrics of Imagine.

 

[Hlaalu Agent]

I honestly think that all of their actions are warped because their end goal is a dystopian nightmare described in the lyrics of Imagine.

...It is dystopian. And I am sure we can actually have a fruitful discussion on why. I can see the utter void of meaning as one. And the lack of possessions too, though without possessions are slaves. And note, he said, NO possessions, not shared, not common, not public... none at all...

 

[Scottty]

...It is dystopian. And I am sure we can actually have a fruitful discussion on why. I can see the utter void of meaning as one. And the lack of possessions too, though without possessions are slaves. And note, he said, NO possessions, not shared, not common, not public... none at all...

It comes across as something like a rejection of human existence. As if they desire to become mere animals instead.

 

[Bacle]

Race is a somewhat mutable thing, genetically. I would argue that there is a possibility that cultural damage can become genetic damage, though as I said it's difficult to tell to what extent that plays a role. i.e., that generations of say, malnutrition, or a culture that breeds selectively for negative traits, can actually compromise, in part, the psychology of a population.

There are some sound points to those arguments, but I haven't seen that sort of thing play out on the racial level.

The two examples I can think of where genetics got fucked up to the point it was noticable at 'group' level would actually be the Hapsburgs and Russian royal families. The inbred so much that they were developing real, noticable health issues in succeeding generations.

 

[PsihoKekec]

Dat chin

Although I recall reading sometime aga that Pakistanis in UK have triple the national rate of birth defects, due to tradition of cousin marriage.

 

[Deleted member]

...It is dystopian. And I am sure we can actually have a fruitful discussion on why. I can see the utter void of meaning as one. And the lack of possessions too, though without possessions are slaves. And note, he said, NO possessions, not shared, not common, not public... none at all...

The Beatles were, unwitting or not, agents of the Eclipse, and the insidious way their music slipped these ideals into the minds of a generation is in no small part responsible for the wickedness of the age.