Question. Why do White Identitarians think Whites are not as Violent as other races.

Sailor.X said:
Would it really hurt for people to make the distinction between Rural and Urban. I mean how would White People like it if some outsider used Hillibillies of Applachia as an example of all American Whites. I would bet every other White groups would say hey we are not a monolith. You must say the same about the distinction between Rural and Urban Blacks because the Culture is not the same. I have been trying to get this message out for years now. But for some reason people aren't even listening.
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But people do generally conflate urban and rural whites.
 
Sailor.X said:
Would it really hurt for people to make the distinction between Rural and Urban. I mean how would White People like it if some outsider used Hillibillies of Applachia as an example of all American Whites. I would bet every other White groups would say hey we are not a monolith. You must say the same about the distinction between Rural and Urban Blacks because the Culture is not the same. I have been trying to get this message out for years now. But for some reason people aren't even listening.
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I apologise for not being more clear. I am well-aware that black culture in Allen's so-called "Black belt" of rural population majorities in the south and in other rural areas as well is a fundamentally healthier thing, arguably healthier than diseased white mainstream culture; it's the culture of this song, instead of rap music. And it is real, vibrant, and deserves respect.

But to some extent because of the "great migration" and the rise of huge black urban populations, and certainly many of the people in those populations are related to the families still in the black belt, those communities are interlinked. But I would say optimistically that rural black America necessarily holds the solution for urban black America, the devil is in the details of implementation.
 
Shipmaster Sane said:
Fixed that for you.
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Oh you're absolutely right, of course. The same commentary applies to the corrosive problems in modern white culture. The only reason I have my head screwed on even vaguely close to straight is that I was raised rural and live rural. I'd rather deal with the expectations of my own people than go running off to the pit of narcissism, despair and death that is a city.
 
Captain-General said:
Oh you're absolutely right, of course. The same commentary applies to the corrosive problems in modern white culture. The only reason I have my head screwed on even vaguely close to straight is that I was raised rural and live rural. I'd rather deal with the expectations of my own people than go running off to the pit of narcissism, despair and death that is a city.
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You know, the ancient Welsh thought that there was something intrinsic to the condition of living in a dense enough population that made people violent, depraved busybodies.
 
Shipmaster Sane said:
You know, the ancient Welsh thought that there was something intrinsic to the condition of living in a dense enough population that made people violent, depraved busybodies.
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We have plenty of evidence that cities are simultaneously engines of enormous economic productivity and psychologically destructive to humans. Thus why it seems most cultures go through cycles of urbanisation. There is a inescapable tension in city life.
 
Sailor.X said:
Would it really hurt for people to make the distinction between Rural and Urban. I mean how would White People like it if some outsider used Hillibillies of Applachia as an example of all American Whites. I would bet every other White groups would say hey we are not a monolith. You must say the same about the distinction between Rural and Urban Blacks because the Culture is not the same. I have been trying to get this message out for years now. But for some reason people aren't even listening.
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Probably because 1) it’s addressed against a view of monolithic racial blocks, which is a strawman and 2) there’s no evidence for it.
 
Captain-General said:
IQ is clearly impacted by socio-economic and culture conditions. Polish immigrants also had much lower IQs than average for the white population when arriving in America but within less than two generations were at the US baseline (for whites).
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Your measured IQ is a minimum function of your genetic intelligence and environmental factors. A good education just allows you to reach your maximum potential.

If you are just an idiot, there is no amount of education that can make you smart. We have tried, and people died because of it.

Conversely, there are plenty of things that can make you dumber, lead exposure, bad educators, a solid blow to the head...
 
Sailor.X said:
Are you saying there is no and I mean no difference in the Culture between Urban Blacks and Rural Blacks. Because if you are saying that then you have never met a rural Black.
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No, I'm saying that there's literally no evidence for the claims you are providing. That black people living in rural areas commit less crime than black people in urban areas does not disprove what I've said earlier. If you were to show rural black crime rates versus rural white crime rates, and/or urban black crime rates versus urban white crime rates, then we'd be able to
 
Doomsought said:
Your measured IQ is a minimum function of your genetic intelligence and environmental factors. A good education just allows you to reach your maximum potential.

If you are just an idiot, there is no amount of education that can make you smart. We have tried, and people died because of it.

Conversely, there are plenty of things that can make you dumber, lead exposure, bad educators, a solid blow to the head...
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I dont have any sources on hand, but if I recall correctly environmental factors (malnutrition is what I remember specifically) can have generational effects on IQ.
 
Shipmaster Sane said:
Moral worth, I mean. I figured that was implicit.
Further, like I mentioned, higher IQs also correlate strongly with mental illness. If everyone in the world was a super genius, we'd spend all our intellect designing asylums.
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The Name of Love said:
Does that mean that Ashkanazi Jews and Asians are more likely to be mentally ill because they have higher average IQs?
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No. It's creativity that correlates with mental illness.

en.m.wikipedia.org

Creativity and mental health - Wikipedia

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The Name of Love said:
Does creativity and high IQ correlate?
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Off the top of my head, no. AND IQ has a mild positive trend with mental health. IIRC some studies have shown high IQ correlating with higher incidence of autism-spectrum in the family, but that's under debate. There was a big thread at slatestarcodex about that one lately.
 
Sol Zagato said:
Off the top of my head, no. AND IQ has a mild positive trend with mental health. IIRC some studies have shown high IQ correlating with higher incidence of autism-spectrum in the family, but that's under debate. There was a big thread at slatestarcodex about that one lately.
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I would be interested in hearing a summary of that thread...
 
Sol Zagato said:
Off the top of my head, no. AND IQ has a mild positive trend with mental health. IIRC some studies have shown high IQ correlating with higher incidence of autism-spectrum in the family, but that's under debate. There was a big thread at slatestarcodex about that one lately.
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Sol Zagato said:
No. It's creativity that correlates with mental illness.

en.m.wikipedia.org

Creativity and mental health - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org
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I mean, autism is a pretty serious mental illness.
 
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