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ShieldWife

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Going to public school in the south, I never understood the Left has taken over schools thing. May I ask where you re that not homeschooling your kids is bad?
I'm in the south, NC to be more specific. Yes, I would say that here the left dominates the public school system as well.
 

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I'm in the south, NC to be more specific. Yes, I would say that here the left dominates the public school system as well.
Not where I was in Georgia. Only two of my teachers were not conservative one was my band director and he was left the other was my french teacher and she was green
 

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Not where I was in Georgia. Only two of my teachers were not conservative one was my band director and he was left the other was my french teacher and she was green
They were probably just Republican types, leftist-light, not actual conservatives 😝
 

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So as someone who is a gender abolitionist you apparently don't understand the difference between the objective and the strategy used to achieve the objective so allow me to explain it to you. Gender and sex are memetically tied together and dislodging them as it is with dislodging all false beliefs within a society is difficult. Look at how long it took the wider cultures to accept the earth was not flat. People still believe the earth was created in seven days. As to saying the left wing wants to tear down gender norms I wish that were true. Libtards and Terfs like gender norms and want to preserve them. If you mean leftists then yes. Agreed. Deconstructing gender norms however isn't straight forward or easy and it must be done from within the current cultural framework. If it were not for the existence of degenerate reactionaries then things would be much simpler. As it stands however ironically by binary trans individuals existing and gaining wider visibility this begins to force people to question what it means to be a woman and what it means to be a man. This allows for conversations which deconstruct faulty logic and really examine the question beyond the 13 year old understanding of "Bigger peepee = me more man".

As to the distinction between transgender and transsexual (I have no idea how ism is supposed to modify the word transgender) it is useful in that one indicates medical intervention while the other does not. HRT is not actually banned for children and I would oppose doing so as HRT is used to treat a wide variety of things not all of them related to trans. Unfortunately sex reassignment surgery is not banned either although I would very much like it if it was. While it is much more rare than it used to be sexual reassignment surgery is still preformed on infants who are born intersex. In both cases you are either stupid, ignorant, or lying. I don't care to find out which. The reason why trans children are not given HRT and sex reassignment surgery is because it is important to ensure that the individual is in fact trans and that if they have dysphoria to determine what the right treatment is. Medically dysphoria can present itself in a variety of ways and to different extents. For example top surgery may be all that is required in order to alleviate the dysphoria.

As to your nonsense incoherent statement about the left attempting to distinguish between transgender and transsexual in order to force ideological compliance. How exactly is this supposed to enforce ideological compliance? I love me a good conspiracy theory so do share. Nothing in the official literature of psychology, or sociology, or in leftist literature distinguishes between transgender and transexual. It's a tool to make an arbitrary distinction between trans with dysphoria and trans without dysphoria so that smooth brained individuals such as yourself might grow a few wrinkles.

You keep using the acronym TERF without understanding what it means. Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminists argue that there’s no point in anyone transitioning because there’s no difference between men and women, the man-caste in society just has engineered social structures to hold power over the woman-class of human beings. Transitioning is in the case of FTMs treasonous solidarity with the oppressor and in the case of MTFs a vile invasion of the limited spaces the woman-class has control over in society by spies, especially invaders to their maroon camps. They want their brave lesbians who have been seduced by the promise of freedom into treason to come back to the wombynist fold and the infiltrating males to be extirpated utterly. I use these words to intentionally compare the TERF critique of society with Marxism because it is derived from Marxism, it’s just that sex instead of capital is what defines class, with gender being a class, and the end result—cultural marxism in a very little sense—is the extirpation of the class of gender.

Transgenderists are simply another flavour of radfem. They argue that “transing” (this term has actually been used in academia, look it up) gender is a positive, radical act because it will serve to break down gender and make it impossible for people to hold definitions around it. Transgenders will make gender meaningless and then it won’t exist anymore—this trans-positive radfems have the same objective as TERFs, just different tactics. This is the position the modern transgender movement is built around.

Transsexuals say there is an actual fundamental biophysical condition behind transsexuality (or spiritual, especially in some Asian countries). That this condition is inalterable and thus forces them to follow a compulsion in which they conform their body to the fundamental nature of their mind/soul. In doing so the objective is to become as close as possible to a normal member of the sex their mind identifies as. To be validated in this, they must fit in, which means passing and behaving normally as part of the sex they identify with, even if they retain a measure of physical imperfection.

This is a threat to radfems of both the TERF and “trans-positive” varieties because it implies there are real, fundamental behavioral differences between men and women as a consequence of the different biological roles males and females hold, and transsexuality, as a demonstration of the consequences when the mind fails to match the body, shows how fundamental and innate the need to be man and woman really is. In doing so, transsexuality makes a lie of the ideologies of both TERFs and transgenderists, and so the TERFs angrily call transsexuals men and the transgenderists even more angrily call them “truscum”.
 

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They were probably just Republican types, leftist-light, not actual conservatives 😝
Well except the History teachers. They are all conservative. Oddly enough though, most of them being born and raised in the south helped them like that.
 

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Pretty amusing that when the media said "Wuhan virus" it wasn't racist. Yet magically when Trump said it now it's "racist". Almost like it's not now and never has been racist. Rather calling "wu flu" and it's variants racist is simply a rhetorical cludgel. Being used to smear POTUS and his base while simultaneously pushing a narrative.....Also I literally laugh at the idea of a socialist making "moral" judgements.
 

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Media makes 180 degree turns over Trump all the time.
Sometime, I would really like him to say, he likes breathing.
Pretty amusing that when the media said "Wuhan virus" it wasn't racist. Yet magically when Trump said it now it's "racist". Almost like it's not now and never has been racist. Rather calling "wu flu" and it's variants racist is simply a rhetorical cludgel. Being used to smear POTUS and his base while simultaneously pushing a narrative.....Also I literally laugh at the idea of a socialist making "moral" judgements.
we are at war with Eurasia, we have always been at war with Eastasia... I really hate how our cultural “elite” and I use that term in the loosest sense possible decided 1984 was an instruction manual.
for fucks sake, they are now trying to claim Trump is working for the Chinese, as if they didn’t spend the last few years freaking out that he was some ultranationalist xenophobic who hated Chinese people.
 

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Sometime, I would really like him to say, he likes breathing.

we are at war with Eurasia, we have always been at war with Eastasia... I really hate how our cultural “elite” and I use that term in the loosest sense possible decided 1984 was an instruction manual.
for fucks sake, they are now trying to claim Trump is working for the Chinese, as if they didn’t spend the last few years freaking out that he was some ultranationalist xenophobic who hated Chinese people.
 

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THE LOT OF YOU ARE OFF TOPIC
ROLE CALL
  • Wu Flu: Not racist, refers to a location.
  • Kung Flu: Definitely racist, that's a caricature of culture.
  • Winnie The Flu: Not at all racist, in fact, if you protest that it's racist then you're the real racist for equating the Chinese people with an intrinsically evil institution.
Anyway you're all outrage junkies and OP is your dealer.
Trans people are mentally ill and can be treated effectively with an anti-psychotic.
I'm at disbelief. The transsexual community accepts literally anyone for any reason, so how could they be narrowed down to just being sufferers of a psychotic disorder? It's much more likely that gender dysphoria is a socially encouraged smokescreen for literally any psychological issue and failed need. Jennifer Diane Reitz is mostly reviled by the SpaceBattles constellation for writing a power fantasy that isn't theirs, but what you actually need to know is that he made this website to, basically, convince as many people as possible that they were actually women and give them the answers they needed to make doctors diagnose them with gender dysphoria. From the dawn of the internet they've been exerting a "Join us! Join us!" mentality, and while they've washed their hands of this particular example, they're still doing whatever they can to expand the community. In metastasis, a cancer is overgrown by a faster mutation of itself. That's what's going on, the community is evolving to seek out the best ways to recruit itself. There is no gender dysphoria, there's just that same dysphoria that cults and hate groups look for.
 

Floridaman

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THE LOT OF YOU ARE OFF TOPIC
ROLE CALL
  • Wu Flu: Not racist, refers to a location.
  • Kung Flu: Definitely racist, that's a caricature of culture.
  • Winnie The Flu: Not at all racist, in fact, if you protest that it's racist then you're the real racist for equating the Chinese people with an intrinsically evil institution.
Anyway you're all outrage junkies and OP is your dealer.

I'm at disbelief. The transsexual community accepts literally anyone for any reason, so how could they be narrowed down to just being sufferers of a psychotic disorder? It's much more likely that gender dysphoria is a socially encouraged smokescreen for literally any psychological issue and failed need. Jennifer Diane Reitz is mostly reviled by the SpaceBattles constellation for writing a power fantasy that isn't theirs, but what you actually need to know is that he made this website to, basically, convince as many people as possible that they were actually women and give them the answers they needed to make doctors diagnose them with gender dysphoria. From the dawn of the internet they've been exerting a "Join us! Join us!" mentality, and while they've washed their hands of this particular example, they're still doing whatever they can to expand the community. In metastasis, a cancer is overgrown by a faster mutation of itself. That's what's going on, the community is evolving to seek out the best ways to recruit itself. There is no gender dysphoria, there's just that same dysphoria that cults and hate groups look for.
Caricaturing a culture is not racism, if it is then all the people who mock the US are racist because they are caricaturing American culture, want to try again, or are you just now branding ALL comedy as racist?
 

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Caricaturing a culture is not racism, if it is then all the people who mock the US are racist because they are caricaturing American culture, want to try again, or are you just now branding ALL comedy as racist?
That may have sounded somewhat harsh, My point is racism is making fun of someone’s race, not their culture. Race is the individuals physical characteristic, culture is the values that come from our society. If I took a person and raised them elsewhere they would adopt that culture, rather than whatever one they were born into, your race however does not change.
edit: the original was intended to be sarcastic, unfortunately that doesn’t seem very clear.
 

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That may have sounded somewhat harsh, My point is racism is making fun of someone’s race, not their culture. Race is the individuals physical characteristic, culture is the values that come from our society. If I took a person and raised them elsewhere they would adopt that culture, rather than whatever one they were born into, your race however does not change.
edit: the original was intended to be sarcastic, unfortunately that doesn’t seem very clear.
Racism isn't making fun of someone's race, it's treating them meaningfully worse than you would someone of a different race, on the basis of their race and not their behavior.

All the slurs in the world don't make you racist until you start hurting one group specifically because of their race.


Further, you can be prejudiced against a culture without being racist. You can hate the Chinese without your hatred having anything to do with their physical characteristics, but rather the broad strokes of their collective behavior. You literally cannot be a racist if you despise one tribe for its actions but not another racially identical tribe that hasn't taken the same actions. This is not a statement that collective judgment is the best way to interact with the world, only that not all collective judgements that overlap with race are connected meaningfully to race.
 
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