Renewable Energy is a Scam
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Simonbob
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Very rarely.
Hydro isn't bad, but Solar and Wind? No, they're crap. They have a few very minor uses, niche at most.
Billions of dollars, for effectively zero real benifits.
Wind and solar are all about geography like most things are.
Everything in blue that's where wind makes economic and enviormental sense.
Everything in darker green thats where solar makes economic and environmental sense
Darl green that land is great for both.
As you can see the american south west, great for solar with some places good for both, midwest great wind region the light green? Todays technology just doesn't make sense from an economic or environmental reason.
These energies should be thought of as a part of the basket that includes nuclear which holy shit is fucking amazing, but if you want to rely just on renewables you an idiot.
Simonbob
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..... I could argue this shit all day, and we'd still disagree.
Unless you can store enough power, it's not all that useful to have power at barely predicable timeframes.
Thus, solar is not ever going to be great, until we can set them outside the atmosphere. And wind is always going to be seriously limited.
Yes, nuke is great, and nowhere near as risky as all sorts of folk think. But, any form of power generation we can't control isn't something we want.
Unless you can store enough power, it's not all that useful to have power at barely predicable timeframes.
Thus, solar is not ever going to be great, until we can set them outside the atmosphere. And wind is always going to be seriously limited.
Yes, nuke is great, and nowhere near as risky as all sorts of folk think. But, any form of power generation we can't control isn't something we want.
Aggreed on battery tech every single advancement that we want is being held back by shitty battery technology.
The future arrived and batteries were not included.
Simonbob
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I'm told that's the biggest issue with power armor, too!
power armor, cybernetics, actual hoverboards, electric cars, name a technology and its being held back by shitty battery tech.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
They can be, but they are supplemental at best I think.
That basically leaves nuclear and hydro. Hydroplants can actually be controlled - store water when there is lot of it, then gradually release it. This can actually prevent floods (which is not always a good thing, mind you) and ensure a steady supply of electricity.
But solar? As you said, unless we manage to figure out geostationary solar arrays, it is useless except as a supplement. Wind is same, unless somebody manages to figure out how to build wind turbines in jet streams.
Aldarion
Neoreactionary Monarchist
Wind turbines emit highly dangerous climate-destroying gas, with Germany the worst polluter in Europe
While Germany races to build wind farms, there is cause for concern, with a chemical identified as the strongest greenhouse gas in the world being emitted from wind turbines. In fact, measurements of the air over Germany have already identified the country as the worst offender in Europe when it...
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Wind turbines emit highly dangerous climate-destroying gas, with Germany the worst polluter in Europe
While Germany races to build wind farms, there is cause for concern, with a chemical identified as the strongest greenhouse gas in the world being emitted from wind turbines. In fact, measurements of the air over Germany have already identified the country as the worst offender in Europe when it...rmx.news
Well that's interesting. But do turbines have to use that gas?
Aldarion
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gral
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As said above, you pay the price in bulk. SF6 is usually found on substations(I didn't even know they used SF6 in wind turbines until that article came up), which allows them to be a lot smaller than they usually are(and, like askarel, research hasn't found a replacement that delivers the same performance for its niche yet).
AFAIK, problems with SF6 in substations are rare, assuming competent maintenance. But maintenance on wind turbines is far more complicated than on substations...
It's all about the government money being poured down the depths of the green dream. It's an easy way to make money and corporations will do what they want to make it. Enriching themselves and making the price of power to go up.
Easy, short term climate virtue signaling and long term returns on profits as people pay for every kilowatt.
Easy, short term climate virtue signaling and long term returns on profits as people pay for every kilowatt.
TheRomanSlayer
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Biofuels would be a good alternative source of energy if you still want a liquid based fuel to run your vehicles. Can anyone imagine using a combo of old, discarded cooking oil from restaurants with human fat extracted by liposuction as fuel?
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Orders of magnitude too little of it.
Hydrogen is pretty nice if you can get it...
But on Earth that's an energy medium, not source.
Honestly, the best bets to go for (at least in humanity's short-term) are geothermal (if you're lucky, like Iceland), hydro-electric (if you live in areas like the UK, Sweden/Norway, et cetera), and (widespread) nuclear -- emphasis on nuclear.
But, of course, public perception of nuclear power has been poisoned for generations by the anti-nuclear morons out there.
But, of course, public perception of nuclear power has been poisoned for generations by the anti-nuclear morons out there.