Amazon Prime Rings of Power: Lord of the Rings on Amazon

ShadowArxxy

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As far as I know, LOTR is anything but public domain.

Unfortunately, Disney's copyright-extension laws don't just line Disney's pockets; they stretch the copyright on the Lord of the Rings until 2050 in the United States. LoTR would have gone into the public domain in Canada this year, but they just caved to the greedy bastards and passed a 20-years-more extension.
 

Jaenera Targaryen

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Do not worry,Tolkien never finished his story about fall of Gondor for the same reason.

If nothing else, 'Rings of Power' is loyal to Tolkien's themes only in the sense that it embodies the corruption and decay ingrained in the very fabric of creation by the power and will of Morgoth Bauglir. A work starts out great and beautiful, but as time passes and wears, it slowly but steadily wilts and rots away.
 

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They (Amazon Studois) recently laid off around 750 people, IIRC, and already had killed off a slew of shows to make up for the costs and failed RoI from Rings of Power. With Indian Sauron and the utterly lacklustre (and justified) reception of the first season -- only 37% of viewers who started it actually watched it till the end -- we can assume that any continued production is solely due to contractual obligations.
 

Jormungandr

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They (Amazon Studois) recently laid off around 750 people, IIRC, and already had killed off a slew of shows to make up for the costs and failed RoI from Rings of Power. With Indian Sauron and the utterly lacklustre (and justified) reception of the first season -- only 37% of viewers who started it actually watched it till the end -- we can assume that any continued production is solely due to contractual obligations.
Ouch.

I'd say I'd feel sorry for them, but, well, it's Amazon. shrug
 

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With Indian Sauron and the utterly lacklustre (and justified) reception of the first season -- only 37% of viewers who started it actually watched it till the end -- we can assume that any continued production is solely due to contractual obligations.
The actor that plays Sauron is a white dude from Australia, what are you talking about?
 

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The actor that plays Sauron is a white dude from Australia, what are you talking about?
I think there were rumors that they are recasting him, however from that standpoint I personally don't care, Sauron is a shape shifter and a master schemer who can disguise himself as anyone. Although I have no faith in them being able to execute that effectively.

In an ideal world were Rings of Power had competent writers Sauron would have been literally multiple people throughout the series, he could be nobody in the background one season, a minor villain in another with seemingly different goals the next, a man who joins the protagonist one season and becomes a well like character only to have him fake his death at the end in a 'heroic' sacrifice only to then rip the rug out from under the viewers who felt he was 'safe' after that death by revealing he survived and is in fact Sauron.

If you want my opinion, really the entire story should have been a fantasy adventure thriller with Sauron playing the game so smoothly that the protagonists are only barely able to keep up with some of his moves by flukes or intentional slip ups on his part to further some other goal.
Picture it! The ending should have been a tragedy at the collapse of Numenor with it devolving to Morgoth Worship and barbary while The King leaves to conquer some of the undying land, with Sauron remaining behind to rule while for Ar Pharazon but in reality ultimately planning to ditch Numenor knowing full well The Numenorian's don't stand a chance, some of the protagonist leave when Elendil convinces them the that the Island is doomed because of his visions and they must flee immediately with others, half the party however say they are staying behind ultimately thinking with emotions high and under misconceptions they have been led to that they can stop him and then they attempt to confront the Dark Lord.

This all results in Sauron being confronted, arriving at the Temple of Morgoth the remains of the protagonist party or group find him wearing the face of one of their former comrades from a few seasons prior who they had cared and loved having felt he died a hero now covered in blood surrounded by bodies of dead sacrificed Dark Priest of Morgoth.

Sauron laughs at their distraught face's before thanking them for their help his eyes glowing red slits revealing his nature before saying a phrase or saying something that would only confirm to them that their friend had never existed and was only an illusion to deceive them.

The Dark Lord would then silently begin shifting to various appearances he took throughout the series, no matter how minor to further impress how close yet so far, they ever were to truly uncover him, much less stopping his plans.

The leader of these protagonist would shakily draw a weapon prompting his fellows to nervously do the same, the sword itself being a Mcguffin that all of the protagonists had searched for off and on over a few seasons while doing other things under the rumor that the Dark Lord had feared it only to now reveal to be worthless as Sauron himself had been the ones to lead them to it.

Sauron would taunt them further asking if the others in their party had died unaware of the currently happening departure of Elendil, thinking it a shame that he had intended for them to all arrive here under some misconceived notion of defeating him so he may kill the last of the loose ends personally before leaving the Numenorians to deal with an inevitable host of Valar when they arrive.

Even through his fear and despair at that moment one of the protagonist a man with a bow realizes that though they are doomed, Elendil was right, and Sauron realizes they are escaping may move to crush the exiles before they depart and shoots an arrow which hits the Dark Lord now back in the form of their friend in the shoulder who only laughs and taunts in the manner of which they remember before his voice grows darker and darker as does the shadows in the room.

Their friend then erupts in flames forming the shape of the armored Lord of Mordor sitting on the rock throne, mace in hand and one ring on his finger which would be the first time it would be seen in the series.
That! Is how I would imagine a well written Rings of Power Sauron would be written as you would imagine him, hyper competent, the singular most powerful being east of Valinor (Tom Bombadil withstanding) and someone who is more than willing to get his hands dirty or play any part, he would be Loki without any of the redeeming qualities, a control freak dominated so much by his inhuman, industrialized machinelike interpretation of the world that he cannot see a beauty in the free will, nor understand people beyond their uses as tools to be used and disposed as needed their feelings irrelevant to the situation.

The bittersweet ending of the series as I would write it would leave you thinking first and foremost.

"Thank God Sauron lost the ability to shapeshift as well as the one ring later because if he had one or the other at the time of The Lord of The Rings the Free People would be beyond doomed."
 
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having watched youtube walk throughs of the Gollum game when it came out...am I, seemingly, the only person who likes that game? Not every game has to be some major high budget production to be enjoyable, and the complexities and tragedy of Gollum's character is one of the most human parts of Tolkien's legendarium
 

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having watched youtube walk throughs of the Gollum game when it came out...am I, seemingly, the only person who likes that game? Not every game has to be some major high budget production to be enjoyable, and the complexities and tragedy of Gollum's character is one of the most human parts of Tolkien's legendarium
The problem with it isn't that it was low production, there have been countless crap adaptations of video games concerning LOTR over the years and you don't hear many complaning.

The problem with Gollum is that it's a 16 millon dollar budgeted game with outdated graphics and gameplay more at home in 2008 than 2023 that has been marketed and priced like a AAA game that has ten times that budget.

I mean if the game was offered at a starting price of like thirty dollars or less with a download only release you probably wouldn't hear near as much criticism, everybody is more offended that the game was initially priced as if it were Elden Ring, Halo Infinite or Witcher 3 and the fact is that it in no way shape or form is those games equals and in no way is worth the intial 60 dollars they were asking.

In other words, it isn't the game strictly that people have a problem with.
 

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