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From looking at the reviews, I think people are in the "Cursed Child" fog.

Basically, when Harry Potter and the Cursed Child came out as a stage play, people were ecstatic over it because a) more Harry Potter and b) "look at the shiny pebbles!" (the production values).

After the hype died down, people quickly realized that the story and setting were utter dogshit on par with the worse of fanfiction -- and I do mean the worst. And, hilariously, the Leftards tried to pull the race card (without much luck) because the actress used to portray Hermione was Black (which I disagreed with, just as I would if Hermione had been Black in the books/films and they used a White actress), and people criticized that/made note of it.

Hey, if I'm called a racist by their twisted standards, that's not a bad thing since it shows I live in reality, not a Leftard's delusions of such.

I think that's what's happening here: people are currently so excited over the series and getting fan-favourites back that they're currently not seeing or glossing over the fact that the series is a complete shitshow.

Give it a few months and even the most die-hard, current supporters will go "yeah, it was shit".

And this is all without going into the can of worms of Disney going full on offense, calling anyone who criticizes the show racist or sexist (and they've roped the actors into supporting this stance, too).

Yes, I think Reva is a shit character. No, it's not because the actress is Black. No, it's not because she's a woman. Yes, she is a terrible Mary Sue: for example, just knowing that Vader is Anakin would get her neck snapped without a second thought. She's just a shit character. But, of course, I'm racist/misogynist. smh
 
Empire didn't really care about small arms aside from Disintegrators.

Ship weapons and tech however...oh yeah....that was much more heavily regulated.

Overly specific, but I also recall T-7 Ion Disruptors being banned under Imperial rule, continued backdoor use and such notwithstanding.

More generally, it seems the megacorps and super-rich could afford private armies comparable in size and armament to professional militaries, as shown by the Commerce Guilds consolidating their separate forces into the Separatist Droid Army and bankrolling Confederate military operations throughout the Clone Wars. That stopped afterwards, I'm sure, especially with the Empire's ban on battle droids (but not so much security droids), though there were no doubt certain "parties" that still amassed sizable forces of their own, even under Imperial rule. (The Hutts come to mind here, Imperial era and otherwise.)
 
Overly specific, but I also recall T-7 Ion Disruptors being banned under Imperial rule, continued backdoor use and such notwithstanding.

More generally, it seems the megacorps and super-rich could afford private armies comparable in size and armament to professional militaries, as shown by the Commerce Guilds consolidating their separate forces into the Separatist Droid Army and bankrolling Confederate military operations throughout the Clone Wars. That stopped afterwards, I'm sure, especially with the Empire's ban on battle droids (but not so much security droids), though there were no doubt certain "parties" that amassed sizable forces of their own, even under Imperial rule. (The Hutts come to mind here, Imperial era and otherwise.)
Well, "Forces of Corruption", the expansion to Empire at War, was a thing for a reason, heh. Petrogylph just used what was in Legends/the EU to great effect.
 
Well, "Forces of Corruption", the expansion to Empire at War, was a thing for a reason, heh. Petrogylph just used what was in Legends/the EU to great effect.

Then I guess an overall state of fuck-all arms control existed during certain periods of galactic history (local and system-wide regulations notwithstanding, I assume). Even then, more stringent periods—such as Imperial rule—still had lots of people slip through the cracks, whether they be outlaws, frontiersmen, or rich and powerful beings who simply ignored the law or exploited loopholes.

In the aggregate, that sounds about right to me. However, I’m curious as to what kinds of laws everyday sentients had to obey, whether on Naboo, Coruscant, or Tatooine? Again, I’m guessing it varied considerably, but I haven’t been able to pin down more specific legal codes and general “attitudes” than that.
 
Generally speaking, and this is mostly remembered for the West End Games RPG fluff (which used to be considered canon), blasters were not legal for the average citizen to possess, but firearms (Stormtrooper armor being much more effective against kinetic impacts & penetrating attacks than energy based attacks) were allowed much more generally. It's why each squad of Stormtroopers had at least one person carrying a grenade launcher. Their armor would generally shrug off frag damage unless it was point blank.

Licensed Bounty Hunters were exempted from this b/c they often worked FOR the Empire.

These laws were also a reason players needed to have their own starships...otherwise you're constantly passing through Imperial security scans prior to being able to board a transport.
 
Generally speaking, and this is mostly remembered for the West End Games RPG fluff (which used to be considered canon), blasters were not legal for the average citizen to possess, but firearms (Stormtrooper armor being much more effective against kinetic impacts & penetrating attacks than energy based attacks) were allowed much more generally. It's why each squad of Stormtroopers had at least one person carrying a grenade launcher. Their armor would generally shrug off frag damage unless it was point blank.

Licensed Bounty Hunters were exempted from this b/c they often worked FOR the Empire.

These laws were also a reason players needed to have their own starships...otherwise you're constantly passing through Imperial security scans prior to being able to board a transport.

Sounds fair, at least as it applies to the Imperial era.

However, given how the Empire's reign was a flash in the pan, I assume tight blaster regulations throughout the Galaxy were an exception to the rule, which tend to be pretty lax (again, planetary and system-wide regulations notwithstanding). Naturally, I've also a feeling droid armies and such might come back a century (or two) after the end of the Clone Wars, but that's segueing into a more hypothetical question.
 
Another "niche" question, but I was wondering if there's been any good "official" sources on Palpatine's fighting style? The gist of what I've read is that he's a master of all Seven Forms and comparable to Mace and Yoda as a first-rate swordsman, but nothing much more specific than that.

The best assessment I do know of, however, is Jensaarai One's fan breakdown of Legends Sidious's skillset and typical MO. (He's got plenty of other content dealing in similar subjects, as well, for those interested.)

 
Is this an idea the fanbase could potentially be interested in or will it be doomed to die due to the inherent racism of Star Wars fans who will automatically reject all characters of color?

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Looks like it'd be kinda like a Young Indiana Jones type of format (which by the way was a pretty good series) where an older Lando Calrissian would recollect the stories of his younger self (portrayed by Donald Glover) and then the meat of the episode being those younger escapades.

Of course granted this would be produced by Disney Plus which hasn't exactly been covering itself in glory with its many forays into streaming television but is the general concept appealing?
 
Is this an idea the fanbase could potentially be interested in or will it be doomed to die due to the inherent racism of Star Wars fans who will automatically reject all characters of color?

FUyvttfVIAA4yLK


Looks like it'd be kinda like a Young Indiana Jones type of format (which by the way was a pretty good series) where an older Lando Calrissian would recollect the stories of his younger self (portrayed by Donald Glover) and then the meat of the episode being those younger escapades.

Of course granted this would be produced by Disney Plus which hasn't exactly been covering itself in glory with its many forays into streaming television but is the general concept appealing?
A 'Young Lando' show, narrative by Billy Dee, would be awesome as shit, and allow a lot of exploration into the non-conflict side of the SW universe.

Personally I want to see how they would handle some of Lando's weirder adventures.
 
Is this an idea the fanbase could potentially be interested in or will it be doomed to die due to the inherent racism of Star Wars fans who will automatically reject all characters of color?

FUyvttfVIAA4yLK


Looks like it'd be kinda like a Young Indiana Jones type of format (which by the way was a pretty good series) where an older Lando Calrissian would recollect the stories of his younger self (portrayed by Donald Glover) and then the meat of the episode being those younger escapades.

Of course granted this would be produced by Disney Plus which hasn't exactly been covering itself in glory with its many forays into streaming television but is the general concept appealing?
It's not a terrible idea but I'm skeptical it would be a good thing in practice.

Here's the problem, this doesn't have anything to do with the actual story, it's entirely a framing device. But as a relatively big-name Star Wars actor, Billy Dee Williams is likely to cost a decent chunk of change to get even though he won't contribute anything but a few minutes at the start of the episode. This means the framing device will eat a (probably) significant piece of the budget that would otherwise go to better writing, higher-quality support actors, or superior special effects, without actually doing anything to contribute to the story we're watching.

So, unfortunately, while a cool idea I suspect the cold realities of TV show budgets and movie actors' wages would put it on the negative side.
 
Is Billy Dee Williams that big name of an actor?

I honestly can't recall (off the top of my head) movies or whatever he's been in besides Star Wars to be honest. And I'm not saying that to dunk on the guy, he's obviously very accomplished and has name recognition, but I'm suspect if he has it to an extent that he could break the budget of a reasonably funded television series.

Oh wait he was in Batman and the Lego Movie now that I think about it.

But regardless, if he's willing to do so, IMHO (of which I have no special insight) I don't think he would be a constraining cost.
 
Is Billy Dee Williams that big name of an actor?

I honestly can't recall (off the top of my head) movies or whatever he's been in besides Star Wars to be honest. And I'm not saying that to dunk on the guy, he's obviously very accomplished and has name recognition, but I'm suspect if he has it to an extent that he could break the budget of a reasonably funded television series.

Oh wait he was in Batman and the Lego Movie now that I think about it.

But regardless, if he's willing to do so, IMHO (of which I have no special insight) I don't think he would be a constraining cost.
Ahem.

He has been an actor since the 50s.
 
Is Billy Dee Williams that big name of an actor?

I honestly can't recall (off the top of my head) movies or whatever he's been in besides Star Wars to be honest. And I'm not saying that to dunk on the guy, he's obviously very accomplished and has name recognition, but I'm suspect if he has it to an extent that he could break the budget of a reasonably funded television series.

Oh wait he was in Batman and the Lego Movie now that I think about it.

But regardless, if he's willing to do so, IMHO (of which I have no special insight) I don't think he would be a constraining cost.
He's not a AAA superstar on par with, say, Dwayne Johnson but he's had a very successful career and commands a lot of respect. I wouldn't expect him to break the budget but he'd inflict a rather significant pinch, enough that I think it would hurt quality somewhere else as they'd have to cut some corners to get him.

If he were the lead, this probably wouldn't be as much of a problem as leads tend to be paid more anyway, and he's a fine actor who would bring serious chops to the role, and his name would pull in more viewers, so it would likely be worth it. However, having him just appear in the beginning means basically paying for two leads since he'd be expensive and his acting skills wouldn't be onscreen contributing for prolly 90% of the episode.

Movie actors are also usually paid a staggeringly larger amount of cash than TV actors and even a bit role by a named movie actor can be breaking to TV shows. This probably wouldn't be the case for a Disney Star Wars show, as those aren't low budget affairs, but again, I think it would pinch. That said the trend of movie actors being vastly above tv actors has been gradually declining for some time and some TV actors are pulling in pretty impressive salaries, notable the Game of Thrones leads were drawing in 500,000 an episode. OTOH Harrison Ford drew somewhere near 25 million for his relatively limited part in the sequel trilogy so....
 
Ahem.

He has been an actor since the 50s.

Oh I'm sorry. Here maybe you missed this part of my post which you still managed to quote.

I honestly can't recall (off the top of my head) movies or whatever he's been in besides Star Wars to be honest. And I'm not saying that to dunk on the guy, he's obviously very accomplished and has name recognition,

Thanks for the PSA though. (y)

I'm still pretty confident in stating that especially with any Star Wars series, the only big name recognition he has with the vast majority of Star Wars fans is due to his portrayal of Lando in Star Wars. And it's likely applicable for any comparable project (say if he was in negotiations to be cast in the MCU, Star Trek or Game of Thrones or some crap). His big name recognition is almost wholly due to being Lando in Star Wars.

Again this is no discredit to his extensive body of work, like I said before. But we're discussing name recognition, not his merit or experience as an actor. In a hypothetical case like this, it's 99% based on the fact he was Lando in Star Wars and not *skims through the IMDB list and stopping randomly* Brady Lloyd on Dynasty in the mid 80's.

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Oh wait I remember seeing him in Undercover Brother and Ladies Man.

Actually browsing through the IMDB list, I'm more convinced that his pinch wouldn't be quite as bad, at least initially, for any Disney Plus series. I see a lot of TV series (and TV movies) in his recent filmography which I'm barely familiar with or have poor name recognition to me, as well as a lot of Star Wars voicework for various cartoons and games.
 
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Going to rec the story Sleep Through The Chaos. It's a brief oneshot and like most of the stories I like, has a touch of crack to it.

The premise is simple. Ahsoka's been burning the candle at both ends for a long time in the Clone Wars, and during the season 5 finale, she realizes being locked in a prison cell is an ideal time to catch up on her rest and trust in Anakin to deal with it.

 
All that fat guy needs is some telekinesis and he could fight like Vader.

Well, to be fair, Vader is one of the reigning swordmasters and most powerful Force-users of his era, and while his Original Trilogy appearances make him appear brittle and immobile, there’s plenty of outside media (both Canon and Legends) proving otherwise. ;)
 

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