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StormEagle

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At the risk of derail, he isn't the only one. Tolkien was too over that whole 'Rings of Power' nonsense, if he wasn't already over The Hobbit trilogy. Less so the first three films, though, they were about as faithful as you could get for film adaptations.
Except for Legolas shield surfing or taking down an oliphant by climbing on it.

Me thinks someone in the writing room had a thing for either Legolas or his actor, cause he just got more ridiculous as the movies went on.

I personally think it was Peter Jackson himself, considering the elf was about as bad in the Hobbit trilogy.

Still, that’s just a personal nitpick. I have a ton of those, like an astonishing lack of Glorfindel for example, but the Lord of the Rings movies are still better than 99.9% of the schlock that’s getting shoveled out lately and even than it’s contemporaries.

I think it comes from the fact that the people working on those movies actually had a respect for the source material, and didn’t try to use them to shove whatever contemporary political issue was going on at the time in the audience’s face.

They just made a good movie, instead of trying to “reflect the world we live in today” or, as the Critical Drinker would say, push THE MESSAGE.

There’s a sincerity to those movies that most modern Hollywood productions lack. I could honestly make that argument about several film series from the early 2000’s.

The Nolan Batman series for example. It wasn’t obsessed with political messaging or grandstanding on social issues. They just told a story about a damaged man dressing as a bat and beating up criminals.

Yeah it’s a little more complex than that, what with the League of Shadows and the Joker, and one could argue that the last movie in the trilogy did a little of the social commentary thing with the whole eat the rich subplot.

But, overall, it might as well be a titan of cinema compared to todays movie going experience. Where a movie about a bear doing cocaine or a video game movie are honestly the most entertaining things going on right now.

Hell, I could make an argument that the first three Transformers movies are better than what’s getting made now a days.

Yeah they’re brainless, but at least they’re fun.
 

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Zachowon

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I don't mind them doing an Ashoke show, but wasting Heir to the Empire on Filoni's pet OC is going too fucking far! Either adapt it correctly or leave it the fuck alone!
I mean, it will probably lead into more. They did Thrawn pretty good in Rebels
 

Zachowon

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Not really. I mean, they got his characterisms right, and the voice actor was simply perfect, but he wasn't really...Thrawn. Otherwise, the brats would have been dead within three episodes of Thrawn's first appearance.
I mean. It's a show about the rebels. What did we expect?
But, he didn't die either
 

ShadowArxxy

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And just how big of a role do the duinuogwuin play in Legends?

The purrgil in Disney canon cost the Empire a grand admiral, and supposedly inspired the hyperdrive. Yeah, BS. The purrgil are more an asspull than the duinuogwin.

The purrgil are more or less a toned down version of the duinuogwuin, which could fly through hyperspace and had magic space-gas breath attacks that were "thirty times" as powerful as a turbolaser, were overall individually as powerful as an Executor-class dreadnought, oh, and also had the highest rate of Force sensitivity of any species ever (fully one-third of them), but also concealed themselves so perfectly that no one knew any of them were Force sensitive despite multiple of them having been super-important Jedi in the Clone Wars, and were magically left alone by the Empire because they were isolationist, but only when they wanted to be, and were prominently featured in the mythology of almost every known species because they were the ultimate heroes of myth that saved everyone, but at the same time were totally mysterious and inscrutable...

. . . they're basically Star Wars dragon-furry Ultimate Wank Species of Wank.
 

Jaenera Targaryen

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The purrgil are more or less a toned down version of the duinuogwuin, which could fly through hyperspace and had magic space-gas breath attacks that were "thirty times" as powerful as a turbolaser, were overall individually as powerful as an Executor-class dreadnought, oh, and also had the highest rate of Force sensitivity of any species ever (fully one-third of them), but also concealed themselves so perfectly that no one knew any of them were Force sensitive despite multiple of them having been super-important Jedi in the Clone Wars, and were magically left alone by the Empire because they were isolationist, but only when they wanted to be, and were prominently featured in the mythology of almost every known species because they were the ultimate heroes of myth that saved everyone, but at the same time were totally mysterious and inscrutable...

. . . they're basically Star Wars dragon-furry Ultimate Wank Species of Wank.
Yes, but ultimately of little if any impact on the plot.

The purrgil, though? I stand by what I said: BS.
 

Skallagrim

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And just how big of a role do the duinuogwuin play in Legends?

Let's see. They actually appear in... two pen-and-paper RPG supplements, one of them appears in one RPG-related short story, another gets a cameo on one of the Galaxy of Fear (a.k.a. 'Goosebumps in SPAAAACE') books, and one shows up in... you guessed it... one of the Jedi Prince books.

And that's it.

It's not very impressive. They were one of those weird bits of nonsense; the 'fluff' of the EU. Better left out, to be sure, but never in any way a major factor in the plot.

It may also be worth noting that... they've been re-introduced into Disney canon already. So, yes: "but the EU had these fuckers!" is definitely kind of a weird reasoning, since Disney canon has purgills and duinuogwuin. :rolleyes:
 

Zachowon

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What? It literally has the cast if Rebels except for Zeb who was thw only male left of the crew
 

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