The Coming Far Right Backlash

[Lord Sovereign]

Lord Sovereign calling you out for demoralization is very apt. Things are bleak, and in many ways getting worse, but it's not all one-sided, and as always with the cycles of civilization, the more damage is dealt, the more people wake up and realize what's really going on.

Whether we're in terminal decline, or approaching the nadir of another cycle of decay and reform, remains to be seen.

Bit of a stretch, but I often think back to Ancient Rome in the 3rd century BC whenever people like Noodles start letting their despair get the best of them.

After that Battle of Cannae, where the cream of the crop of Rome’s men were cut down in a single day by Hannibal, the City looked to be on the verge of falling. I don’t think the Romans were ever truly in a tighter spot than they were then, but did they give up?

No. The Senate found new leadership, then outlawed the mere mention of surrender. They stuck it out, they raised more legions, and guess who won in the end?

If one is defeated in mind, he is defeated in battle. We must not do our enemy’s work for them.

 

[Cherico]

Bit of a stretch, but I often think back to Ancient Rome in the 3rd century BC whenever people like Noodles start letting their despair get the best of them.

After that Battle of Cannae, where the cream of the crop of Rome’s men were cut down in a single day by Hannibal, the City looked to be on the verge of falling. I don’t think the Romans were ever truly in a tighter spot than they were then, but did they give up?

No. The Senate found new leadership, then outlawed the mere mention of surrender. They stuck it out, they raised more legions, and guess who won in the end?

If one is defeated in mind, he is defeated in battle. We must not do our enemy’s work for them.

I don't think were at the end I think were at the very begining which is often a shitty place to be.

 

[Aldarion]

Bit of a stretch, but I often think back to Ancient Rome in the 3rd century BC whenever people like Noodles start letting their despair get the best of them.

After that Battle of Cannae, where the cream of the crop of Rome’s men were cut down in a single day by Hannibal, the City looked to be on the verge of falling. I don’t think the Romans were ever truly in a tighter spot than they were then, but did they give up?

No. The Senate found new leadership, then outlawed the mere mention of surrender. They stuck it out, they raised more legions, and guess who won in the end?

If one is defeated in mind, he is defeated in battle. We must not do our enemy’s work for them.

Difference now is that we are in situation where Senate hates their own people and wishes to genocide them.

Situation isn't necessarily impossible, but a different approach is needed.

 

[Agent23]

Difference now is that we are in situation where Senate hates their own people and wishes to genocide them.

Situation isn't necessarily impossible, but a different approach is needed.

I am pretty sure there were many instances when the Roman elite hated their own people, too.

But the problem now is that the incentive structure, the social norms applied to the elite and the elite as a group have turned into shit and are entrenched heavily.

 

[Agent23]

And here is James Lindsey explaining about how identity politics and woke shit are just a rebranding of the old Marxist shit:

 

[Yinko]

And here is James Lindsey explaining about how identity politics and woke shit are just a rebranding of the old Marxist shit:

Great stuff, but I feel that if the camera were turned around we'd see a lot of rolled-eyes.

 

[Blasterbot]

I like James. I get what he says. but damn does he talk over the lay person's head. there needs to be someone who can take what he says and translate it into something more digestible. Unfortunately our enemies have made their ideology purposefully esoteric and obscure. most their minions don't even understand their ideology. it makes it really hard to reason with them.

 

[Aldarion]

I like James. I get what he says. but damn does he talk over the lay person's head. there needs to be someone who can take what he says and translate it into something more digestible. Unfortunately our enemies have made their ideology purposefully esoteric and obscure. most their minions don't even understand their ideology. it makes it really hard to reason with them.

I am not sure it is purposefully esoteric and obscure. It is just so nonsensical that it has to be esoteric and obscure in order to try and make sense... it is, essentially, a very badly made religion.

 

[Yinko]

I am not sure it is purposefully esoteric and obscure. It is just so nonsensical that it has to be esoteric and obscure in order to try and make sense...

No, academic language as a whole (not merely the marxist stuff) is purposefully made complex. My pet theory is that it's because of publish-or-perish. Most papers are never cited, many are never read by very many people, so if you have to publish papers but you know that they will most likely be skimmed at best, then say something simple and obvious but in a way that is esoteric enough that it would take time to work out the meaning, then no one will call you on your BS.

I've read a lot of papers, mainly anthropology based ones but some on other topics, and I've rarely been impressed by the minds of those that wrote them, and they all tend to use language just complex enough that a specialist in the field would have to read it with intent.

 

[Blasterbot]

I am not sure it is purposefully esoteric and obscure. It is just so nonsensical that it has to be esoteric and obscure in order to try and make sense... it is, essentially, a very badly made religion.

the unclear nature of their ideology is a feature. not a bug. it allows them to make extensive use of the moral motte and bullshit bailey against those that do not look at things too closely. it means they can use slogans that the foot soldiers can spout like black lives matter while pushing for the abolishment of police and the family. it means anyone who hasn't put a lot of time into learning their jargon will dismiss them as innocuous academics in their ivory tower who don't matter. it means that the centrists and moderates who aren't terminally online won't support the opposition who look like crazies when they say these guys are derived from Marxism and need to walk someone through a 5 minute lecture connecting them to it.

 

[Agent23]

Will the West experience a conservative demographic revolution?

 

[Cherico]

Will the West experience a conservative demographic revolution?

Most conservatives were pushed out of the cities, cities make having kids more expensive and with todays divorce laws only people who see it as a mision from god will have children. This is a global thing by the way so immigrants wont save the left long term.

 

[Agent23]

Most conservatives were pushed out of the cities, cities make having kids more expensive and with todays divorce laws only people who see it as a mision from god will have children. This is a global thing by the way so immigrants wont save the left long term.

The problem is that the migrants they drag in will also be religious and we will have a Balkan situation in the west in a few generations.

 

[Aldarion]

The problem is that the migrants they drag in will also be religious and we will have a Balkan situation in the west in a few generations.

Worse. It will be even worse.

 

[Cherico]

Worse. It will be even worse.

In europe.

America doesn't have a land boarder with the islamic world and our system is basically getting really anti immigration (The children of Mexican imigrants really do not like the central american new comers)

Hispanic and white intermarrage rates are high.
Asian and white intermarrage rates are high.

So I fully expect the hispanic community in the us to wake up one day and find out their now white (this is already happening)

Also Hispanics, whites, blacks and a growing number of asians are all co religionists so I expect some one to look at the chaos and use religion as a glue to hold the mess together. Its going to be a horrifically painful process but I expect America to survive it.


Europes leadership however went full retard, that said their islamic immigrants keep to the cities where children are much more expensive and the middle easts situation is probally going to 'cut' off immigration when shit really hits the fan. I expect this to end badly for the europeans as in it will break them as a culture destroy their ego and the US will most likely be stuck bailing them out....again...

 

[Agent23]

In europe.

America doesn't have a land boarder with the islamic world and our system is basically getting really anti immigration (The children of Mexican imigrants really do not like the central american new comers)

Hispanic and white intermarrage rates are high.
Asian and white intermarrage rates are high.

So I fully expect the hispanic community in the us to wake up one day and find out their now white (this is already happening)

Also Hispanics, whites, blacks and a growing number of asians are all co religionists so I expect some one to look at the chaos and use religion as a glue to hold the mess together. Its going to be a horrifically painful process but I expect America to survive it.


Europes leadership however went full retard, that said their islamic immigrants keep to the cities where children are much more expensive and the middle easts situation is probally going to 'cut' off immigration when shit really hits the fan. I expect this to end badly for the europeans as in it will break them as a culture destroy their ego and the US will most likely be stuck bailing them out....again...

Um, yeah, have you heard of these things thing called the Northern Crusades, the Reformation and the 30 years war?
Furthermore, my own people and the Eastern Romans were both Orthodox and we aligned with Catholics, Arabs and Turks while fighting each-other.

I would not bet on all Christian denominations to like each-other.

Western Europe is fucked, the east, since it is hemorrhaging cosmopolitan leftoids moving to 'civilization', is poorer and more anti-migrant compared to the west might do better positioned to capitalize on this and thrive once again.
Just like Byzantium and its neighbors were more advanced than the west between the 6th and 12th centuries.

 

[ATP]

Will the West experience a conservative demographic revolution?

If it is the same which you PM me,then there is still not hope for us,becouse:
1.Yes,there is 1,5-2 more children in normal families - but they would be brainwashed in leftist schools and massmedia anyway.
2.Muslims would still have more children.

So,we are doomed,unles Holy Mary save us again.And it is not joke.
I pray to God for Poland every day.

 

[Aldarion]

If it is the same which you PM me,then there is still not hope for us,becouse:
1.Yes,there is 1,5-2 more children in normal families - but they would be brainwashed in leftist schools and massmedia anyway.
2.Muslims would still have more children.

So,we are doomed,unles Holy Mary save us again.And it is not joke.
I pray to God for Poland every day.

Problem is that you need to pray to God for miracle to happen, and since Church had been infiltrated by Marxists - Pope Francis is basically Karl Marx II - people who go to church usually do not understand that there is anything to pray for.

 

[Zyobot]

If it is the same which you PM me,then there is still not hope for us,becouse:
1.Yes,there is 1,5-2 more children in normal families - but they would be brainwashed in leftist schools and massmedia anyway.
2.Muslims would still have more children.

So,we are doomed,unles Holy Mary save us again.And it is not joke.
I pray to God for Poland every day.

Problem is that you need to pray to God for miracle to happen, and since Church had been infiltrated by Marxists - Pope Francis is basically Karl Marx II - people who go to church usually do not understand that there is anything to pray for.

Said it here already, but depending on how far left it ends up going, I really do fear the Catholic Church is in for an "Age of Martyrs" in which the Vatican is obliterated and the clergy get mercilessly butchered by fanatical Neo-Crusaders who cast them off as "Closeted Satanists in Christian vestments!" or something.

Besides the possibility of a Liberation Theology Pope who spews Leftist talking points, I also think that worsening economic and social conditions — especially in tandem with the young-male demographic being marginalized, as Whatifalthist hammered on so much — will encourage people to turn towards "deviant" spirituality (as well as other quixotic heresies) in which their religiosity assumes a more manic, bloodthirsty form.

Heck, that's literally the case with Mexico's Cult of Santa Muerte right now, so an Americanized version of that developing among troubled youths as things escalates throughout the 2040s and '50s in consort with a "Third Great Awakening" slated to happen already seems frighteningly plausible to me. And as much as I hate to contemplate it, the precedents set for the most extreme and murderous faction winning out when shit hits the fan — Jacobins in France, Bolsheviks in Russia, and (of course) Nazis in Germany — says some terrifying things about how powerful the "Cult of Holy Death" could one day become.

In short: If ISIS were run by Neo-Crusaders and had the population and resource base of the entire Western World, that's probably the form it'll take.

 

[ATP]

Problem is that you need to pray to God for miracle to happen, and since Church had been infiltrated by Marxists - Pope Francis is basically Karl Marx II - people who go to church usually do not understand that there is anything to pray for.

Western Europe - agree.But,at least in Poland some belivers remain.Maybe God would spare us.