United States The Left Can't Meme

[KilroywasNOTHere]

There's another element to it; good memes work by making clever reference to Truth.

And that's something that the political left cannot abide, because it is something that at best they only have glimmers of, at best. The few leftists you find who can do some memeing, are generally the ones who aren't all the way down the rabbit hole, and, ironically enough, tend to be the remaining libertarian/left types.

I'm not sure what which side this meme falls under as I'm not sure if this is an actual Jordan Peterson quote or left wing straw man of Jordan Peterson or if maybe I'm just an idiot.

Are we so brow beaten that the mere act of NOT doing a Amber Turd on someone's head considered a virtue now?

 

[Rocinante]

I'm not sure what which side this meme falls under as I'm not sure if this is an actual Jordan Peterson quote or left wing straw man of Jordan Peterson or if maybe I'm just an idiot.

Are we so brow beaten that the simple act of NOT doing a Amber Turd on someone's head considered a virtue now?

That's an accurate paraphrase of a common Peterson statement. Down to the rabbit references and everything.

He's talking about Jungian theory and incorporating your "shadow" archetype. the difference between being harmless, vs being aware of your capability to do harm and choosing not to. He's went back to this point many times.

That one sentence without context maybe looks like something a super villain would say, but he's making LoTR references and talking about building assertiveness.

 

[KilroywasNOTHere]

That's an accurate paraphrase of a common Peterson statement. Down to the rabbit references and everything.

He's talking about Jungian theory and incorporating your "shadow" archetype. the difference between being harmless, vs being aware of your capability to do harm and choosing not to. He's went back to this point many times.

That one sentence without context maybe looks like something a super villain would say, but he's making LoTR references and talking about building assertiveness.

Ah here is a better one then.

So um... about trump?

 

[Cherico]

Ah here is a better one then.

So um... about trump?

Before that it was dubya.

Honestly I don't think the office should get too much respect in general because a president with a large ego tends to fuck things up.

 

[bintananth]

when your enemy is making a mistake do not interupt them.

Wiser words were never spoken.

 

[Typhonis]

Ah here is a better one then.

So um... about trump?

Shhhhh....they thought it was OK to do that to Trump.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

Here we have a fine example that a couple of leftist meme failings at once. Too freakin' long because they lack self-restraint, using Conservative Man and Trad Woman to represent the left, and Soyjak to represent the right rather than anything original (Which wrecks the meme something fierce since the symbolism of each side like the traditional dress, beard, and glasses are reversed from which group would actually wear them). And of course, we get a "subtle" Nazi reference because there's always one.

This is impressively incompetent, as they tried to steal the NPC meme and apply it to the right, but picked two issues so similar the effect is ruined.

The Fourth Age youtube channel did a very good video (which I cant find lolz) on this. His point is that the modern left is in rebellion against reality itself, and because of that, thier art and memes dont actually reflect a truth. Rather, they reflect a kind of will to power. As such, thier memes (and art) needs to be heavily explained or interpreted and enforced with a heavy hand because they dont reflect any actual reality.

It can be summarised in the dissident right mantra..the right memes to truth, the left memes to power.

 

[AnimalNoodles]

I'm not sure what which side this meme falls under as I'm not sure if this is an actual Jordan Peterson quote or left wing straw man of Jordan Peterson or if maybe I'm just an idiot.

Are we so brow beaten that the mere act of NOT doing a Amber Turd on someone's head considered a virtue now?

Its not so much about the ethics of power as it is about the virtue of weakness. I agree with the statement. There is nothing inherently virtuous about weakness. The idea that weakness is a virtue in and of itself comes from a deeply disfigured appropriation of Christian teachings that has become embedded in the culture via critical theory.

 

[Rocinante]

Its not so much about the ethics of power as it is about the virtue of weakness. I agree with the statement. There is nothing inherently virtuous about weakness. The idea that weakness is a virtue in and of itself comes from a deeply disfigured appropriation of Christian teachings that has become embedded in the culture via critical theory.

JBP is just very easily quoted out of context. He often makes kinda silly or overblown sounding points to grab attention and then spends time giving it context.

Which is an entertaining lecture style, but opens you up to exactly this kind of thing.

I mean if you stripped the context, that video I posted, he is telling those students that they need to become monsters. That heroes need to often become the bad guy to accomplish their goals.

That can sound pretty bad out of context. It sounds like he's telling those students they need to be evil...but when you take the context into consideration and listen to rhe whole clip, he's telling them to be assertive and learn to say "no," so you can effectively negotiate with people.

Pretty much every single JBP hit piece out there does exactly this. Takes a little soundbite out of context and completely ignores the point he was actually trying to make.

 

[Sobek]

I found out the other day some lefties are trying to do a version of LibsOfTikTok to "expose" conservatives, which is almost all ad hominem attacks and failures to understand the points being made mixed with 100% real "conservative" posts and facebook boomer quotes. Most of which are not even from Tik Tok.

They called it ChudsOfTikTok. And yes, the even ripped off the LOTT logo.

 

[Cherico]

I found out the other day some lefties are trying to do a version of LibsOfTikTok to "expose" conservatives, which is almost all ad hominem attacks and failures to understand the points being made mixed with 100% real "conservative" posts and facebook boomer quotes. Most of which are not even from Tik Tok.

They called it ChudsOfTikTok. And yes, the even ripped off the LOTT logo.

The problem for them is that the right has dealt with so much censorship that a lot of the crazies were cancelled, and finding what few remains can result in them being cancelled for giving conservative throght even in a negative public view and attention.

Libs of tic tock works because leftists have thought themselves invincible so long that they have gotten arrogant.

 

[Abhorsen]

Holy shit they did it!


... By accidently agreeing with the right, but they did it!

 

[Sobek]

I have seen lefties say the reason the FBI doesn't crack down on PF and White Supremacist groups is because they "agree" with them.

It's wrong, but it only amuses me. As far as I care the FBI and feds in general deserve the reputation.

 

[Bear Ribs]

Variations on a Theme...



Yeah, the number of likes and memes from couples wanting to adopt has sparked a lot of hatred from the left.


Of course he's ignoring some significant facts there, only about 100,000 of those kids are on the "Looking for parents" list and there are at least 2 million couples on the list trying to adopt. The reason they haven't is mostly bureaucratic red tape, and the reason most kids aren't "looking for parents" is because they already have parents who are temporarily unavailable for some reason, and the system favors reuniting families heavily over finding adoptive parents. So his tweet is basically all garbage, as expected, there are somewhere between 20 and 40 couples willing to adopt per actual orphan in the country.

American Adoptions - How Many Couples are Waiting to Adopt a Baby?

As you start to look for the perfect family, you might have one big question: How many couples are waiting to adopt a baby? Find the answer here.

www.americanadoptions.com

But, it did spark plenty of leftist outrage and attempts to meme against it. However, they're all fairly pitiful, just adding to line to two people who are villainous or hated and trying to imply that all families that want to adopt must be out to abuse children, both despicable in its slandering of good folks and also... well not much of a meme anyway. There's no way to actually connect the Wet Bandits to a law-abiding couple trying to adopt, and no logical chain from "People want to adopt" to "Those people must be supervillains" though I'll admit the cat one's mildly clever. I appreciate the fact that they took the effort to shop a Queen's head on the woman and a Tomcat on the man.

Sad to see Hamill getting in on it but he's gotten pretty woke.

Lol wut? The Clampetts would be an awesome family to be adopted by.

 

[Bear Ribs]

The Fourth Age youtube channel did a very good video (which I cant find lolz) on this. His point is that the modern left is in rebellion against reality itself, and because of that, thier art and memes dont actually reflect a truth. Rather, they reflect a kind of will to power. As such, thier memes (and art) needs to be heavily explained or interpreted and enforced with a heavy hand because they dont reflect any actual reality.

It can be summarised in the dissident right mantra..the right memes to truth, the left memes to power.

I did some thinking on this and agree, but I noted another running issue. Leftists arguments rely heavily on finding an edge case and then trying to extrapolate the entire system from that edge case. F'rex pull up any abortion debate and calculate how long before an incest/rape child is brought up. Right now there's a suspicious number of cases, with no names of anyone involved of course, of pregnant 10-year-olds appearing in the news. A bit of reality-checking reveals that there's been well under 100 cases of 10-year-olds getting pregnant in the last two centuries, yet they're suddenly popping up right as Roe vs. Wade appears, and the children are all in states where votes on abortion laws are about to appear? Of course a pregnant 10-year-old is an extreme edge case, but they want to extrapolate all abortion laws based on it even though such cases would be a micro-minority of a micro-minority of abortions.

The thing is, it's impossible to define an edge case concisely, pretty much by definition an edge case requires scads of defining as otherwise it won't be trapped against an edge.

Secondarily they often abuse Brandolini's Law, that is to say it takes more effort to debunk a false claim than to make said claim, so producing a large number of such claims rapidly can exhaust your opponent's ability to knock down all your false claims. It's sometimes referred to as a Gish Gallop. I've got a couple of examples of those below.

As threadtax on the subject, today's theme is Holy Wall of Text Batman...

Advice Animals has been a pretty dead meme for a long time anyway, but they couldn't even follow the pre-made extremely simple macro without ruining it via wall of text.

This had a kernel of at least a decent pun going on before they added a ridiculous wall of text to it.

What the actual...

Walls of text are happening... and it's a good thing!

Yeah, so the cherry in all this is them presenting these walls of text as proof they can actually meme. Note that these four are all from the same attempt at a meme, they ran out of room... on a meme designed to maximize text... and still had to copy the base image four times to fit their freakin' essay in, and this is their proof they can meme.

 

[Sobek]

Mucho Texto is indeed a well known leftie meme

 

[AnimalNoodles]

I did some thinking on this and agree, but I noted another running issue. Leftists arguments rely heavily on finding an edge case and then trying to extrapolate the entire system from that edge case. F'rex pull up any abortion debate and calculate how long before an incest/rape child is brought up. Right now there's a suspicious number of cases, with no names of anyone involved of course, of pregnant 10-year-olds appearing in the news. A bit of reality-checking reveals that there's been well under 100 cases of 10-year-olds getting pregnant in the last two centuries, yet they're suddenly popping up right as Roe vs. Wade appears, and the children are all in states where votes on abortion laws are about to appear? Of course a pregnant 10-year-old is an extreme edge case, but they want to extrapolate all abortion laws based on it even though such cases would be a micro-minority of a micro-minority of abortions.

The thing is, it's impossible to define an edge case concisely, pretty much by definition an edge case requires scads of defining as otherwise it won't be trapped against an edge.

Secondarily they often abuse Brandolini's Law, that is to say it takes more effort to debunk a false claim than to make said claim, so producing a large number of such claims rapidly can exhaust your opponent's ability to knock down all your false claims. It's sometimes referred to as a Gish Gallop. I've got a couple of examples of those below.

As threadtax on the subject, today's theme is Holy Wall of Text Batman...

Advice Animals has been a pretty dead meme for a long time anyway, but they couldn't even follow the pre-made extremely simple macro without ruining it via wall of text.

This had a kernel of at least a decent pun going on before they added a ridiculous wall of text to it.

What the actual...

Walls of text are happening... and it's a good thing!

Yeah, so the cherry in all this is them presenting these walls of text as proof they can actually meme. Note that these four are all from the same attempt at a meme, they ran out of room... on a meme designed to maximize text... and still had to copy the base image four times to fit their freakin' essay in, and this is their proof they can meme.

They forget that the point of the meme is brevity. Its instantly understandable. A meme that expresses a truth needs no explanation. But when your belief system is based on a complex logical structure at war with reality itself you cant be brief.

A joke you have to explain isnt a joke. A meme that requires exposition fails.

Brevity is.....wit

But remember..the left memes to power. Their memes are effective in that. They did meme the current transgender mania into existence.

 

[WolfBear]

 

[Cherico]

Science is a process the indigenous communities might have useful shit this is true so testing things means we can make their stuff better if their correct.

 

[WolfBear]